Do or die year for TT

[b bulldog]

I am not a TT basher although I can see some of his misgivings and how they have cost the team. After this past weekends draft, many local media are questioning TT and now some of the national media are starting to do the same. This is TT's third draft and this draft will be a very important draft in regards to the Packers future. At years end, Brett will most likely retire and the team will need to rely on TT's QB to lead the team and also the D will be needed to carry a big load. TT has invested greatly on the D and will be the core of the team once Brett is gone. This will be a direct sign of TT's drafting qualities. If the team goes 6-10 at best, brett retires and the fans keep getting more angry, TT may be let go. If the team goes 8-8 or better, the youth movement starts to show promise and looks like a future contender, TT will be praised. I don't have any idea at the moment which way they will go but maybe we should all watch as many college football games this next season as we can because I'm afraid that we may be in the top 10 of the draft next year again. The turning down of the browns deal is crazy to me and if he only was willing to give a fifth for Moss, he got what he deserved. Come next season when the Browns are again in the top 12 of the draft, remember that we could have had that pick along with our picks.

[HarveyWallbangers]

There's truth to this--although I will say you could say the opposite. From what I understand from the offer is that they would have given us 2008 1st and swapping of picks in some rounds for our 2007 1st. If Harrell turns into a John Henderson-type beast, then he will have made the right move. He will have also gotten one more year of value of that beast also.

[b bulldog]

2,3,and 4 th rounders would have been swapped is what Savage himself said. We also would have had their number one next seaon.

[retailguy]

I do not believe this is a "do or die year" for Ted. I think he's got another season, AT LEAST, and may have a "moratorium" on that decision until one season after Favre retires.

There is ZERO heat on Ted Thompson from management for the 2007 season.

[Lurker64]

In my eyes, we can't lay Ted's first season on his shoulders alone, since a lot of what he did was dealing with the situation that Sherman left him, and we can't really evaluate the quality of his draft until Favre retires (since so much hinges on the Rodgers pick.) Only last season did Ted get to actually manage the team the way he wanted to (instead of dealing with pre-existing conditions). So IMO, it's next year not this one that's the really telling year for Thompson, and we're really going to see how well he's prepared this team for after Favre before we can really laud or condemn the guy.

I'm also not aware of any heat on Thompson from the management, only from a small but vocal part of the fanbase.

[ND72]

I love all these posts, mostly on JSO about this has to be a winning season or Thompson will be gone. it's beyond idiotic to even read it, much less write it. The Packers organization has complete belief in Thompson. And going 8-8 last year got him to at least 2010 if not longer. Harlan & Company know that GM Sherman screwed our talent, which gave us a 4-12 season. Thompson got us a 8-8 season. Next year, we're going to be bad, sorry to tell everyone, but our schedule is just screaming for a 6-10 type season. But Thompson won't be fired...but we'll have to sit through all those dumb posts next year with people not knowing why he isn't fired. And now I've wasted a short portion of my life responding to this dumb topic.

[Charles Woodson]

I love all these posts, mostly on JSO about this has to be a winning season or Thompson will be gone. it's beyond idiotic to even read it, much less write it. The Packers organization has complete belief in Thompson. And going 8-8 last year got him to at least 2010 if not longer. Harlan & Company know that GM Sherman screwed our talent, which gave us a 4-12 season. Thompson got us a 8-8 season. Next year, we're going to be bad, sorry to tell everyone, but our schedule is just screaming for a 6-10 type season. But Thompson won't be fired...but we'll have to sit through all those dumb posts next year with people not knowing why he isn't fired. And now I've wasted a short portion of my life responding to this dumb topic.

ugh, people need to realize we are were not an 8-8 team last year. i mean besides that last game against the bears, WE DIDNT BEAT a single team witha record over .500. Unfortunately bashing TT isnt gana change how long hes here (although i wish it did) basically what would be a good situation is if we demote TT so he basically handles only the draft and bring someone else in that will actually sign a Effing free agent

[ND72]

Iknow we weren't an 8-8 team, but to the organization they were 8-8...good luck telling any of those guys "eh, you weren't really an 8-8 team"...pretty sure you'd be dead.

and who did you want Ted to go out and sign and kill any money we have for nothing? signing any free agents this offseason would have been as dumb as this topic.

[RashanGary]

The Packers weren't going to go from 4-12 to SB competitors in one night. The base has to be built from the ground up, the right way. It takes a little time. Thompson had 1 below average draft and one really good one that could be great. We'll see how this one goes. I think Thompson has untill after his 5 year deal. If we're not showing signs of a young, potentially dominate team then they'll strongly consider firing him or I would think anyway.

[b bulldog]

I guess this was as dumb as your stupid predictions on Bush,Quinn and

[b bulldog]

Walker was the other and I always love your know it all tude. Bush will be opicked no later than round two! Quinn will go in the top 6 or seven! Walker will be a player! he still may but by the looks of things, most teams thought he was good for sh!t!

[b bulldog]

One more tghing, this was a question that was on the local sports radio show. The third year of a GM is very important, they now have their finger print on the team and you can evaluate all the moves the team has done under their GM. You are very foolish to think they are tied to him till at least 2010 for simply going 8-8

[Kiwon]

What's interesting to note is the lack of Sherman bashing this year (TT inherited a crappy team, etc., etc.) and the focus solely on Ted Thompson's job as GM. It's Ted's team now and he's being held responsible for the decisions he has made.

My prediction: If the Packers win only 2-4 games then TT will be gone. But if they win 5 or more (minus a seasoning ending losing streak) then I think he makes it for another season.

One thing TT has been consistent with is his draft philosophy and approach toward building a team. People may disagree with that philosophy but they at least have to gave him his props for being consistent.

Don't forget...hardly anyone thought the Packers would go 8-8 last year. We don't know what might happen.

[3irty1]

In my eyes, we can't lay Ted's first season on his shoulders alone, since a lot of what he did was dealing with the situation that Sherman left him, and we can't really evaluate the quality of his draft until Favre retires (since so much hinges on the Rodgers pick.)

BINGO The addition by subtraction of Ahmad Carrol was HUGE.

Iknow we weren't an 8-8 team, but to the organization they were 8-8

I absolutely think we were an 8-8 team! Ya we got some games handed to us at the end but we had some heart breakers in the middle too. It's undeniable that the pack got waaaaayyyyyyyy better during the season. Our defense finally started playing together!!! I expect them to know what they are doing this season. Our schedule was much easier last year but our division still sucks and I think it's very realistic to break .500.

[RashanGary]

Good topic bulldog. I think he has to start showing signs. The can't regress IMO.

I think it's important that the defense either be top 10 or damn near. He's put a lot of recourses on that side of the ball. I think if the defense is healhty and struggles Thompson will start getting critics from above.

I don't hink it's do or die yet though. I think he's got his contract and by then the team has to be much better.