JS- Draftniks grade Packers

[HarveyWallbangers]

I'll go with Harvey's favorite draft guy from the Dallas Morning News!

Actually, draft grades the day after mean nothing...it's just good to hear people that spend almost year round looking at these guys like the people your team picked.

Most of these guys don't spend almost year round looking at these guys. They get the initial reports that are made public to all teams by the scouts after the college season (maybe), watch the combine like us, and go by word of mouth. They haven't watched a ton of game tape. They haven't interviewed thse guys. That's my point. How many of these guys do you think actually really scout the players? They are a part of the combine process, they are a part of the interivew process, I doubt they have game tape on these guys. Do you think the guys at FOX, SI, and these other places actually scout that much. Even ESPN. How much time do you think Sean Salisbury spends doing hard-core scouting? Now, McGinn and DMN guy have great contacts around the league--with access to a lot of scouts. I respect their opinion more (even though they aren't gospel either). A lot of times a guy fits in one scheme, but not another. I respect a guy like Gil Brandt or Mike Mayock, but most of these guys are hacks that regurgitate what others are saying with a few tweaks.

[pbmax]

Hang on with the smarterisms. Remember, everyone had the same reaction to Collins and within two weeks, people were fessing up to liking him in the second round.

I agree that this is looking like a decent draft... lots of potential, lots of projects.

In the end, however, they're really not going to see much help on the field for a while.... perfect fit with TT's 10 year plan concept.

The Jones pick was pure, "we're smarterism"... even if they rated him as a 3rd rounder - nobody else did. He would have been there in the 5th or 6th probably; and, if he wasn't??? so what. It's not like he's a difference maker. I think just about everybody laughed at this pick... maybe TT gets the last laugh, but to most, Jones looks like "just a guy".

Hopefully Jackson can emerge as the starter at RB - if not, he's a wasted 2nd round pick. If a 2nd round pick can't beat out Morencey, then he was a wasted pick.

Personally, I think Jackson is much better than Morency and should start.

[Lurker64]

The Jones pick was pure, "we're smarterism"... even if they rated him as a 3rd rounder - nobody else did. He would have been there in the 5th or 6th probably; and, if he wasn't??? so what. It's not like he's a difference maker. I think just about everybody laughed at this pick... maybe TT gets the last laugh, but to most, Jones looks like "just a guy".

A few draftniks had Jones ranked just a couple of spots below where he was picked overall, they just had him slipping into the late rounds because they thought he would be obscure. So it's not a pure "we're smarter than you" pick, since people other than Thompson thought reasonably highly of the guy.

[Rastak]

I'll go with Harvey's favorite draft guy from the Dallas Morning News!

Actually, draft grades the day after mean nothing...it's just good to hear people that spend almost year round looking at these guys like the people your team picked.

Most of these guys don't spend almost year round looking at these guys. They get the initial reports that are made public to all teams by the scouts after the college season (maybe), watch the combine like us, and go by word of mouth. They haven't watched a ton of game tape. They haven't interviewed thse guys. That's my point. How many of these guys do you think actually really scout the players? They are a part of the combine process, they are a part of the interivew process, I doubt they have game tape on these guys. Do you think the guys at FOX, SI, and these other places actually scout that much. Even ESPN. How much time do you think Sean Salisbury spends doing hard-core scouting? Now, McGinn and DMN guy have great contacts around the league--with access to a lot of scouts. I respect their opinion more (even though they aren't gospel either). A lot of times a guy fits in one scheme, but not another. I respect a guy like Gil Brandt or Mike Mayock, but most of these guys are hacks that regurgitate what others are saying with a few tweaks.

I listened to Gosselin on a podcast and if I recall correctly, he said he starts working on the draft right after it's finished. He puts a ton of work into stacking his board.

[SD GB fan]

morency was a 2nd round pick as well. the awesome part is that we got him in a trade for gado (undrafted RB who was a great person but didnt fit our scheme)