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  • #46
    Originally posted by HarveyWallbangers
    Originally posted by prsnfoto
    He had 16 TD in the last three years and 70 catchs for over 700 yds each og the last three seasons which is better than our #2 has had since it was Driver and before that Billy Schroeder, so considering he has been playing #3 that was a slightly stupid statement. No worry though you will get your wish the gay turtle won't sign him he's to old for his liking.
    In 2004 our #2 had much more than that. In 2005, our #2 got hurt. In 2006, our #2 was well on his way to eclipsing those numbers, but got injured. Plus, since when has Keyshawn been the #3? He was the #2 in Dallas in 2004 and 2005. He was the #2 in Carolina last year.
    Harv, an article I read said he was their #3 maybe they thought he would be but his production was a #2, the rest of what I said is true who was the #2 in 2004(Driver) go back before that and I believe it was Schroeder, I could give a shit what happened in 2005 and 2006 that is exactly a reason why TT should sign him.

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    • #47
      # 19 Keyshawn Johnson
      Position: WR
      Height: 6-4
      Weight: 211
      Born: 07/22/1972
      College: Southern California
      NFL Experience: 12




      Receiving
      Year Team G GS Rec Yds Avg Lg TD 20+ 40+ 1st
      1996 New York Jets 14 11 63 844 13.4 50 8 10 3 42
      1997 New York Jets 16 16 70 963 13.8 39 5 15 0 50
      1998 New York Jets 16 16 83 1131 13.6 41 10 15 1 60
      1999 New York Jets 16 16 89 1170 13.1 65 8 16 3 57
      2000 Tampa Bay Buccaneers 16 16 71 874 12.3 38 8 12 0 49
      2001 Tampa Bay Buccaneers 15 15 106 1266 11.9 47 1 19 1 67
      2002 Tampa Bay Buccaneers 16 16 76 1088 14.3 76 5 14 1 53
      2003 Tampa Bay Buccaneers 10 10 45 600 13.3 39 3 9 0 33
      2004 Dallas Cowboys 16 16 70 981 14.0 39 6 15 0 53
      2005 Dallas Cowboys 16 14 71 839 11.8 34 6 7 0 46
      2006 Carolina Panthers 16 16 70 815 11.6 40 4 8 1 42
      TOTAL 167 162 814 10571 13.0 76 64 140 10 552

      To all the people saying he is washed up you are nuts the only down season he had was when Gruden benched him for six games because he asked for the ball more(something TO does every year), plus he has adapted his game to a redzone(note I said redzone not TD, but it is much easier to score when you can actually get it to the two yardline) and posession reciever who moves the chains look at his YPC and 1st down comparison his YPC is going down but his ability to move the chains is still high. If he can be had for 2-3 million sign him we have been paying Faguson that forever for 0 production. You guys buy into this youth crap way too much, name me one team that has won a SB with a roster average age 25, christ if Brett and Rob Davis retired it would be 23, great teams have a mix of both, that is why TT will be nothing more than a average GM.

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      • #48
        I think it'd be a great move to bring him to the pack.. what better than to bring a WR that could still be a great #2, that is totally pissed off and has something to prove?.. to me that smells like a huge year out of him.. plus im sure he wouldnt mind catchin balls from #4

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        • #49
          Originally posted by Pacopete4
          I think it'd be a great move to bring him to the pack.. what better than to bring a WR that could still be a great #2, that is totally pissed off and has something to prove?.. to me that smells like a huge year out of him.. plus im sure he wouldnt mind catchin balls from #4
          That statement just sounds so oddly familiar...must be deja vu or something...
          "Greatness is not an act... but a habit.Greatness is not an act... but a habit." -Greg Jennings

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          • #50
            Great points Prsnfoto!

            Now I am starting to like the idea. Meshawn's specialty is the redzone and that is where the O hurt the most last season.

            Hell with it, do it TT!!!

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            • #51
              Originally posted by gbpackfan
              Guys, it is NOT going to happen. Think about it. We already have Driver, Jennings, Fergie, Robinson (most likely), Holiday, Martin, Jones, Clowney, Bodiford and Brewster. TT loves to develop guys from within and will have a hard enough time figuring out which guys he will cut. Dont get me wrong, I would welcome Meshawn but I just dont see TT making this move. Or any move for that matter!
              That analysis is based on alot of history since TT became our GM.
              ** Since 2006 3 X Pro Pickem' Champion; 4 X Runner-Up and 3 X 3rd place.
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              • #52
                Woodbuck,

                Maybe I'm just off my game today but I am not sure if you are agreeing with me or bashing me.

                Either way, we all know TT loves his draft picks. I have no problem with that, but TT has to use every tool available to him to help this team win. I don't care what FA's he signed last year, or the year before that. This year, TT blew it in free agency. Plain and simple. TT will not be signing Keshawn just like he did not sign Moss.

                Every year can't be a rebuilding year. It seems like TT is building for a future that will never come.

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                • #53
                  Originally posted by prsnfoto
                  Born: 07/22/1972
                  "There's a lot of interest in the draft. It's great. But quite frankly, most of the people that are commenting on it don't know anything about what they are talking about."--Ted Thompson

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                  • #54


                    This is what TT added at WR in the draft. Is this enough ??


                    3 14 (78) James Jones WR San Jose State

                    James Jones SELECTED BY: Green Bay Packers Round 3(14)

                    SI Grade = 3.38

                    Position:WR Class:Sr School:San Jose State Conference:Western Athletic Ht., Wt.: 6-1, 208 40 Time:4.54

                    BIOGRAPHY: Three-year starter awarded All-Conference honors as a senior after topping the team with receiving numbers of 70/893/10 as well as averaging 11 yards on 11 punt returns. Totaled 30 receptions as a junior.

                    POSITIVES: Nice-sized wideout coming off a tremendous senior campaign. Quick in all aspects of his game, displaying a lot of natural skill. Uses his frame to shield away defenders, adjusts to the errant throw and looks the ball into his hands. Displays strong hands.

                    NEGATIVES: Marginal playing speed and is not a deep threat. Just average production until his senior campaign.

                    ANALYSIS: A big, strong, receiver, Jones turned himself into an NFL prospect last season. Gives effort in all aspects of the game and could develop into a productive third wideout.

                    PROJECTION: Middle Sixth Round


                    5 20 (157) David Clowney WR Virginia Tech

                    David Clowney SELECTED BY: Green Bay Packers Round 5(20)

                    SI Grade = N/A


                    Position:WR Class:Sr School:Virginia Tech Conference:Atlantic Coast
                    Ht., Wt.: 6-0.5, 188 40 Time:4.36

                    BIOGRAPHY: Two-year starter who is also a sprinter on the school's track team. Senior totals were 34/424 after 34/619/3 the prior year.

                    POSITIVES: Developing receiver with terrific playing speed. Displays sharpness running routes, gets separation from opponents, offering the quarterback a nice target. Nicely adjusts to the errant throw and makes the reception in stride.

                    NEGATIVES: Undersized and struggles against larger defenders. Gives effort blocking, but is not effective. Marginally productive the past two seasons because of the rotational system Virginia Tech uses at wideout.

                    ANALYSIS: Athletically gifted, Clowney offers potential as a third receiver at the next level if he improves his consistency.

                    PROJECTION: Middle Third Round

                    Comment woodbuck27: Could turn out as a solid value pick and he's a burner. Wondering if he has punt return skills?

                    GO PACKERS !!
                    ** Since 2006 3 X Pro Pickem' Champion; 4 X Runner-Up and 3 X 3rd place.
                    ** To download Jesus Loves Me ring tones, you'll need a cell phone mame
                    ** If God doesn't fish, play poker or pull for " the Packers ", exactly what does HE do with his buds?
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                    • #55
                      Originally posted by gbpackfan
                      Woodbuck,

                      Maybe I'm just off my game today but I am not sure if you are agreeing with me or bashing me.

                      Either way, we all know TT loves his draft picks. I have no problem with that, but TT has to use every tool available to him to help this team win. I don't care what FA's he signed last year, or the year before that. This year, TT blew it in free agency. Plain and simple. TT will not be signing Keshawn just like he did not sign Moss.

                      Every year can't be a rebuilding year. It seems like TT is building for a future that will never come.
                      I'm agreeing with your post on the whole.

                      I don't bash members of the forum. I have been known to stand in for myself when necessary.

                      I will not invest anything in the hope or otherwise that TT will acquire K . Johnson.

                      The dude is a man of stone.

                      Glaciers . . move faster.
                      ** Since 2006 3 X Pro Pickem' Champion; 4 X Runner-Up and 3 X 3rd place.
                      ** To download Jesus Loves Me ring tones, you'll need a cell phone mame
                      ** If God doesn't fish, play poker or pull for " the Packers ", exactly what does HE do with his buds?
                      ** Rather than love, money or fame - give me TRUTH: Henry D. Thoreau

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                      • #56
                        Originally posted by prsnfoto
                        # 19 Keyshawn Johnson
                        Position: WR
                        Height: 6-4
                        Weight: 211
                        Born: 07/22/1972
                        College: Southern California
                        NFL Experience: 12




                        Receiving
                        Year Team G GS Rec Yds Avg Lg TD 20+ 40+ 1st
                        1996 New York Jets 14 11 63 844 13.4 50 8 10 3 42
                        1997 New York Jets 16 16 70 963 13.8 39 5 15 0 50
                        1998 New York Jets 16 16 83 1131 13.6 41 10 15 1 60
                        1999 New York Jets 16 16 89 1170 13.1 65 8 16 3 57
                        2000 Tampa Bay Buccaneers 16 16 71 874 12.3 38 8 12 0 49
                        2001 Tampa Bay Buccaneers 15 15 106 1266 11.9 47 1 19 1 67
                        2002 Tampa Bay Buccaneers 16 16 76 1088 14.3 76 5 14 1 53
                        2003 Tampa Bay Buccaneers 10 10 45 600 13.3 39 3 9 0 33
                        2004 Dallas Cowboys 16 16 70 981 14.0 39 6 15 0 53
                        2005 Dallas Cowboys 16 14 71 839 11.8 34 6 7 0 46
                        2006 Carolina Panthers 16 16 70 815 11.6 40 4 8 1 42
                        TOTAL 167 162 814 10571 13.0 76 64 140 10 552

                        To all the people saying he is washed up you are nuts the only down season he had was when Gruden benched him for six games because he asked for the ball more(something TO does every year), plus he has adapted his game to a redzone(note I said redzone not TD, but it is much easier to score when you can actually get it to the two yardline) and posession reciever who moves the chains look at his YPC and 1st down comparison his YPC is going down but his ability to move the chains is still high. If he can be had for 2-3 million sign him we have been paying Faguson that forever for 0 production. You guys buy into this youth crap way too much, name me one team that has won a SB with a roster average age 25, christ if Brett and Rob Davis retired it would be 23, great teams have a mix of both, that is why TT will be nothing more than a average GM.
                        i say bring keyshawn in. his reputation is making a lot of catches over the middle and he's big enough to make them in traffic, he would make a good #2 to compliment driver. as much as i love jennings he has yet to prove himself as a consistent #2 - i still say m3/tt screwed up royally by not starting jennings out as the #3 wr/kr specialist to better utilize his talents and allow him time to grow accustomed to the speed of the nfl.

                        we've already went through one year of watching half the starters take their lumps learning the pro game on the fly, and the best they came up with was an 8-8 season. bring in keyshawn for a season or two and let him shoulder the load to take some pressure off the youngsters. or, stick with a stable of inexperienced youngbloods and look forward to another frustrating first half of the season.

                        i prefer experience over potential, a known commodity over a bunch of promising but unknown players. but i guess that's just me.
                        Always respect your opponent, even when you're kicking the crap outta him.

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                        • #57
                          Ahhh FritzDontBlitz=a breath of fresh air and some sound reasoning.

                          Harveyswallbangers I am not trying to pick a battle with you, you,Bretsky, Patler are some of my favorite posters, I realize Keyshawn was born in 1972 Brett was born way before that and no one is calling for shooting that old horse plus we have the bucks it's low risk he isn't going to get much. Oh crap why am I wasting my time turtle won't do it anyhow.

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                          • #58
                            Originally posted by prsnfoto
                            Ahhh FritzDontBlitz=a breath of fresh air and some sound reasoning.

                            Harveyswallbangers I am not trying to pick a battle with you, you,Bretsky, Patler are some of my favorite posters, I realize Keyshawn was born in 1972 Brett was born way before that and no one is calling for shooting that old horse plus we have the bucks it's low risk he isn't going to get much. Oh crap why am I wasting my time turtle won't do it anyhow.
                            REALLY !!!!!!!!!!
                            ** Since 2006 3 X Pro Pickem' Champion; 4 X Runner-Up and 3 X 3rd place.
                            ** To download Jesus Loves Me ring tones, you'll need a cell phone mame
                            ** If God doesn't fish, play poker or pull for " the Packers ", exactly what does HE do with his buds?
                            ** Rather than love, money or fame - give me TRUTH: Henry D. Thoreau

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                            • #59
                              Originally posted by prsnfoto
                              Ahhh FritzDontBlitz=a breath of fresh air and some sound reasoning.

                              Harveyswallbangers I am not trying to pick a battle with you, you,Bretsky, Patler are some of my favorite posters, I realize Keyshawn was born in 1972 Brett was born way before that and no one is calling for shooting that old horse plus we have the bucks it's low risk he isn't going to get much. Oh crap why am I wasting my time turtle won't do it anyhow.
                              I just don't see the point in bringing in a 35-year-old receiver (apples to oranges comparison to a QB). One that has baggage. He even said on NFL Network that he'll probably play one more year. Unless you expect this team to contend for the Super Bowl this year (I don't), I don't see the point in losing a young receiver for him.
                              "There's a lot of interest in the draft. It's great. But quite frankly, most of the people that are commenting on it don't know anything about what they are talking about."--Ted Thompson

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                              • #60
                                Originally posted by HarveyWallbangers
                                Originally posted by prsnfoto
                                Ahhh FritzDontBlitz=a breath of fresh air and some sound reasoning.

                                Harveyswallbangers I am not trying to pick a battle with you, you,Bretsky, Patler are some of my favorite posters, I realize Keyshawn was born in 1972 Brett was born way before that and no one is calling for shooting that old horse plus we have the bucks it's low risk he isn't going to get much. Oh crap why am I wasting my time turtle won't do it anyhow.
                                I just don't see the point in bringing in a 35-year-old receiver (apples to oranges comparison to a QB). One that has baggage. He even said on NFL Network that he'll probably play one more year. Unless you expect this team to contend for the Super Bowl this year (I don't), I don't see the point in losing a young receiver for him.
                                And if he decides to make one more stab at another ring (some guys want more than one), he won't playing for a team that isn't perceived to be Super Bowl bound this year.
                                "Greatness is not an act... but a habit.Greatness is not an act... but a habit." -Greg Jennings

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