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  • #76
    again.. you're talking about KJ about 5-7 years ago.. im talkin about a man thats hit rock bottom, and sometimes.. those are the best people to give that second chance to

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    • #77
      Take him TT....take him. Trust me. :P

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      • #78
        Originally posted by GrnBay007
        Take him TT....take him. Trust me. :P
        Yep! Take him right to the retirement community!

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        • #79
          edited

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          • #80
            The insiders and former coaches of KJ all have said that he is an entirely different person than he was earlier in his career. He cares more about his team and fellow players than he used to and he's matured and grown up a lot. That can be a very good thing for a team with lots of young WR's. I believe at this point in his career that he wants two things. The first is a chance to win another superbowl and the second is to be regarded as a classy player both on and off the field. If nothing else, he's 100x better than Robert Ferguson.

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            • #81
              i guess i dont get it.. we have a chance to add a piece that will make us better as a team. He will come cheap, and help NOW while those younger WR's develop into the players they will be. He is not that old as you can tell by his production not really changing a lot over his career. Hes steady and hes always ready to play on sundays.. get his ass in a packer uni and help our O out

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              • #82
                Originally posted by wist43
                Originally posted by BallHawk
                Originally posted by wist43
                TT will never compete for a FA.
                So was TT on vacation when Pickett and Woodson were signed?
                Signed... didn't compete for 'em.

                Pickett - Buffalo (I think it was) showed some interest, and St louis said they wanted him back - don't remember that either offered him a contract... any which way, it surely wasn't a bidding war.

                Woodson - don't remember that anybody showed interest in him.

                TT won't compete for FA's... he has a price, and won't go one cent over that - it's that simple.
                ''Woodson - don't remember that anybody showed interest in him.'' fr. above

                Tampa Bay was the other team (main suitor) that was at least postering regarding acquiring Charles Woodson.
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                • #83
                  Originally posted by Pacopete4
                  again.. you're talking about KJ about 5-7 years ago.. im talkin about a man thats hit rock bottom, and sometimes.. those are the best people to give that second chance to
                  Yup.

                  KJ has seemingly cleaned up his act and he hasn't been a poor player production wise the last few seasons. He has pride and won't come in cheap.

                  TT and that don't mix.
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                  • #84


                    Draft pickups suddenly make Keyshawn a ghost in Carolina

                    May 1, 2007

                    By Clark Judge
                    CBS SportsLine.com Sports Writer

                    Now the Keyshawn Johnson move makes sense.

                    When I first heard that Carolina cut the veteran after reports had them paying him a $3 million roster bonus last month I wondered which account executive was going to get fired. Then I discovered Johnson didn't get a $3 million roster bonus.

                    In fact, he received no roster bonus at all.

                    What Johnson picked up April 1 was $2 million in deferred money that was left from a $5 million signing bonus last year. There was no roster bonus due this year, but there would've been a $1 million bonus had he reported to training camp.

                    As we know now, he won't.

                    That's because the Panthers surprised Johnson by releasing him Tuesday. The unexpected move was forced by an unexpected draft, where the Panthers fell into a Keyshawn-clone -- USC wide receiver Dwayne Jarrett -- in the second round before picking up another receiver (Ryne Robinson) in the fifth.

                    Jarrett is younger, stronger and better than Johnson. So why keep two of the same guys? One reason would've been because the Panthers made a $6 million commitment to Johnson last year -- including the $5 million in signing bonus. But they decided they would rather commit to their young receivers than hang on to Johnson.

                    So they cut their losses, and good for them.

                    "We came out of this weekend with Dwayne Jarrett, whom we didn't expect to get," Panthers general manager Marty Hurney explained. "And then we got Ryne Robinson. Those are two young receivers you put with Drew Carter, Keary Colbert and Taye Biddle to go with Steve Smith.

                    "So we feel as if we have five talented young receivers who have the chance to develop. To commit to accelerating that development, in terms of time and reps and things like that, we felt as if it was time to make a move with Keyshawn and just open it up and throw those guys in there.

                    "The intention, of course, is that with the extra time and attention they get on the practice field it will help accelerate their development. Obviously, we feel like several of them have the ability to step in and help us this year."

                    Makes sense to me.

                    I think back to 2001 when San Francisco finally cut loose Jerry Rice, the greatest receiver in NFL history. It wasn't because he couldn't play any more. He could. And he proved it in Oakland. It was because the club wanted to make a commitment to its future instead of its past. So it promoted its young receivers, one of whom was Terrell Owens.

                    That couldn't have happened as long as Rice was there.

                    The same goes for Carolina, which can start combing through its young receivers for the next best option to Steve Smith. Presumably, that receiver is Jarrett, but it might be Colbert and it might be Carter. All I know is it won't be Keyshawn.

                    Yes, the move was costly. The Panthers invested in Johnson a year ago because they thought he could give them something they didn't have. Well, now they have it. So there's no use in Keyshawn hanging around, and the Panthers just made that clear.

                    In the end, he cost Carolina $6 million for one year of play, and that hurts. But there was no roster bonus last month. And there will be no reporting bonus this summer. Keyshawn Johnson is gone because Carolina discovered younger receivers who offer more than Keyshawn Johnson.

                    Simple as that.
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                    • #85
                      Originally posted by Pacopete4
                      i guess i dont get it.. we have a chance to add a piece that will make us better as a team. He will come cheap, and help NOW while those younger WR's develop into the players they will be. He is not that old as you can tell by his production not really changing a lot over his career. Hes steady and hes always ready to play on sundays.. get his ass in a packer uni and help our O out
                      The problem with that logic is that we are probably keeping 5 to 6 receivers. Most likely 6. So, who goes?

                      You have to keep(1) Driver,(2) Jennings,(3) KRob.

                      It 's stupid to get rid of the two new picks after one preseason, even if they don't show a ton, they have to be given a chance to develop, or why even draft them. So, that's five spots. As far as I'm concerned, I like Ruvell (6) and Holiday (7) a lot. I think they can develop into very good receivers. Holiday might even become a probowler. He has the tools. So, there is simply no room on the roster for Keyshawn. We're overloaded as it is.

                      Everyone keeps bitching about our receiving core. It's fine. We have plenty of talent there. We just need to figure out who's the best, and try to give them week in week out consistency with Favre so they won't make the stupid mistakes they made last year running wrong routes on audibles, etc.. They're one more year experienced in that and Favre should be more comfortable with them this year, let's not start all over again. I'm sick of everyone here who thinks our receiving core is so horrible. You're wrong, we're fine, and we don't have room on the roster for this old man.

                      What we need is a frigging tight end that can get open AND block AND catch consistently. So, unless we tell Johnson he's switching positions, let's forget about it.
                      "...one thing about me during the course of a game, I get emotional and say things my grandmother lets me know about later. But nobody wants to win on that field anymore than I do, no one." Brett Favre

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                      • #86
                        In regards to K-Rob, if he is reinstated after 4 games, we have a chance to assess who is on our roster and what they have done for us early in the season. If we have, say, Carlyle Holiday, and he's dropping balls and not producing, then we can easily fit in K-Rob. If we have a group of guys that we don't want to touch, than we can drop K-Rob.

                        K-Rob is by no means untouchable.
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                        • #87
                          Originally posted by 4and12to12and4
                          Originally posted by Pacopete4
                          i guess i dont get it.. we have a chance to add a piece that will make us better as a team. He will come cheap, and help NOW while those younger WR's develop into the players they will be. He is not that old as you can tell by his production not really changing a lot over his career. Hes steady and hes always ready to play on sundays.. get his ass in a packer uni and help our O out
                          The problem with that logic is that we are probably keeping 5 to 6 receivers. Most likely 6. So, who goes?

                          You have to keep(1) Driver,(2) Jennings,(3) KRob.

                          It 's stupid to get rid of the two new picks after one preseason, even if they don't show a ton, they have to be given a chance to develop, or why even draft them. So, that's five spots. As far as I'm concerned, I like Ruvell (6) and Holiday (7) a lot. I think they can develop into very good receivers. Holiday might even become a probowler. He has the tools. So, there is simply no room on the roster for Keyshawn. We're overloaded as it is.

                          Everyone keeps bitching about our receiving core. It's fine. We have plenty of talent there. We just need to figure out who's the best, and try to give them week in week out consistency with Favre so they won't make the stupid mistakes they made last year running wrong routes on audibles, etc.. They're one more year experienced in that and Favre should be more comfortable with them this year, let's not start all over again. I'm sick of everyone here who thinks our receiving core is so horrible. You're wrong, we're fine, and we don't have room on the roster for this old man.

                          What we need is a frigging tight end that can get open AND block AND catch consistently. So, unless we tell Johnson he's switching positions, let's forget about it.
                          KJ isn"t going to be a Packer.

                          TT will stick with his youth movement.
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                          • #88


                            Posted May 5, 2007

                            Notebook: Keyshawn is on Packers' radar

                            By Rob Demovsky
                            rdemovsk@greenbaypressgazette.com

                            After failing to land receiver Randy Moss, the Green Bay Packers have at least some interest in another veteran receiver, Keyshawn Johnson.

                            The Carolina Panthers on Tuesday cut Johnson despite catching 70 passes in 2006, his only season with the team.

                            The Packers spent the better part of the offseason trying to swing a trade with the Oakland Raiders for Moss, who on draft weekend was dealt to the New England Patriots. It doesn't appear their interest in Johnson is nearly as strong.

                            Reggie McKenzie, the Packers director of pro personnel, on Friday called the Packers' interest in Johnson "slight."

                            "We'll check him out, I'm sure," McKenzie said. "I can tell you that if you watch him on tape, the guy can still play. No doubt that he'll be playing this year."

                            Johnson, 34, has played for four teams during his 11-year NFL career.

                            The Packers drafted two receivers — James Jones of San Jose State in the third round and David Clowney of Virginia Tech in the fifth round. They are in need of playmakers behind top receiver Donald Driver.

                            "Any time you can upgrade your football team, whether it's with a veteran or with a younger player, it's something you have to look at," Packers coach Mike McCarthy said.

                            "Obviously, Keyshawn's been very productive in the National Football League. So, you have to look at all those situations, and that's what we do."

                            Comment woodbuck27:

                            Uhhh Huuhhh !
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                            • #89
                              and these comments fr. some Packer fan:

                              TT IS SMOKING THE CRACK PIPE ! Sat May 05, 2007 7:16 pm

                              How could TT pass up that trade with Cleveland is beyond me.

                              He could have swapped draft slots with the Browns in rounds 2-4 , got next year's #1 from them and if he was shrewd enough rob WR Braylon Edwards too.

                              Now everyone is horny to sign a washed up WR like Key shawn Johnson. He is waste of a roster spot and cap money.

                              TT had a gun to Phil Savage's head and he didn't have the balls to pull the trigger. This huge Mistake on his part will bury the Packers for good under his inept reign as GM.

                              This potential deal would have defined the Packers as a bonafide contender and TT took the gas pipe and drafted Harell.

                              I don't want guys like Keyshawn and Moss on the Packers. I want young Stud WR's that can fly and score from anywhere on the field.

                              TT also passed on QB Trent Edwards who may turn out to be the QB steal of this draft. He has a better arm than Quinn and is a smart tough guy.

                              He had a chance to draft Johnnie Lee Higgins who is alot like Ted Ginn Jr. and TT drafts James Jones who got a 9 on the wonderlic test and lived in a homeless shelter. Jones ran a 4.6 and Higgins a 4.3. and was all SWC.

                              Unless Harrell can slim down to 290 and play DE to rush the QB he was a wasted draft pick. The Packers have enough DT's.

                              The Packers only hope is that Bill Belichick leaves the Patriots and New Packers CEO John Jones has the brains to scoop him up to be the next HC of the Packers in 2008. Outside of that this team is dead and buried in 8-8 NFC Mediocrity under Terrible Teddy and Fat Mike.


                              Comment woodbuck27:

                              Interesting comments from NOT a TT fan.

                              wow !! Is that Tank? If so ? He's all over the place.
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                              ** To download Jesus Loves Me ring tones, you'll need a cell phone mame
                              ** If God doesn't fish, play poker or pull for " the Packers ", exactly what does HE do with his buds?
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                              • #90
                                KJ has seen his better days. I would consider him at a very discounted price.

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