Question about D-LINE...

[RashanGary]

B, Sherms last 2 years as GM we had one starter at each position and we just crossed our fingers he didn't go down. You just pointed out the two worste positions for depth and 3 years ago that was our whole team and we went 10-6.

[Bretsky]

I'm also concerned Spitz is overrated in here

[Bretsky]

B, Sherms last 2 years as GM we had one starter at each position and we just crossed our fingers he didn't go down. You just pointed out the two worste positions for depth and 3 years ago that was our whole team and we went 10-6.

Sherman did us no favors depth wise; but Sherman would never lose his playmakers. Javon Walker was more important to GB's success than anybody is willing to admit.

[RashanGary]

I think there is a lot of misplaced blame. I truely believe that the O Line was the single biggest reason our offense sucked last year.

Again, Minny's guys laughed at us, saying we were weak. We just pure plain and simple sucked at everythign about blocking.

If that group improves I believe it's going to be a domino effect.

[RashanGary]

I'm also concerned Spitz is overrated in here

We'll certainly see. If those guys don't improve, and improve a lot I'd bet we fall flat on or faces on offense.

I think those guys are hard workers and smart guys but just needed strength. I'm a bit of an optimist but I think they are going to be a strength of this team much like Tauch and Cliffy 7 years ago in their second years.

[the_idle_threat]

I wonder how much of our thoughts toward Bubba are colored by his horrid play in the second Minnesota game, when he almost lost the game singlehandedly. It was a poor image to leave us with, and perhaps we think he's "finished" despite the facts.

Bubba just turned 29 a few months ago, which makes him a year younger than Randy Moss and many years younger than Me-shawn Johnson. He never was the "burner" type who could lose his speed and become ordinary overnight. Maybe he's got a comeback in him. It's no less possible than a comeback from Randy Moss.

[Bretsky]

I wonder how much of our thoughts toward Bubba are colored by his horrid play in the second Minnesota game, when he almost lost the game singlehandedly. It was a poor image to leave us with, and perhaps we think he's "finished" despite the facts.

Bubba just turned 29 a few months ago, which makes him a year younger than Randy Moss and many years younger than Me-shawn Johnson. He never was the "burner" type who could lose his speed and become ordinary overnight. Maybe he's got a comeback in him. It's no less possible than a comeback from Randy Moss.

Not me; the quality of Buba's play has been fading for a couple years not. Still a good blocker though

[HarveyWallbangers]

I'm also concerned Spitz is overrated in here

Could be, but he played well enough as a rookie. (He wasn't William Whitticker.) Plus, he has to beat out Moll and Barbre for the starting gig. Competition should be good here.

[MJZiggy]

What are they gonna do with Kevin Barry?

[Bretsky]

I'm also concerned Spitz is overrated in here

Could be, but he played well enough as a rookie. (He wasn't William Whitticker.) Plus, he has to beat out Moll and Barbre for the starting gig. Competition should be good here.

Any starters there ?

[HarveyWallbangers]

Sherman did us no favors depth wise; but Sherman would never lose his playmakers. Javon Walker was more important to GB's success than anybody is willing to admit.

Like Mike McKenzie? I think the whole McKenzie situation is what drove the Walker situation, personally.

[Bretsky]

I'm also concerned Spitz is overrated in here

Could be, but he played well enough as a rookie. (He wasn't William Whitticker.) Plus, he has to beat out Moll and Barbre for the starting gig. Competition should be good here.

Any starters there ?

I just don't see this OL as being deep like you Harvey. I see them as a bunch of developing players that are not ready yet. Maybe they will be someday, maybe not.

[HarveyWallbangers]

Any starters there ?

Why not? They were serviceable last year. You don't think they have a shot at improving even more?

[the_idle_threat]

Bubba's had a couple of down years, which coincide with major problems in the O-line which led to a heavier blocking load on Bubba. On the plus side, the O-line projects to be better. On the minus side, David Martin developed into a good blocker and was able to share the blocking load in years past (when healthy). Now the load shifts entirely to Bubba, or at least it appears so at this point.

[HarveyWallbangers]

It's not deep. It will probably go about 7 deep is all, but those 7 have a lot of flexibility. Clifton goes down, Colledge can kick out to LT and Moll can go to LG. Tauscher or Spitz goes down, and Moll can start there. Wells goes down, and Spitz can kick inside to OC and Moll can start at RG. Barbre should help the situation. I really like the guy, and I wouldn't be surprised if he provides good depth his rookie year--like last year's batch of rookies.