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    By BOB McGINN
    bmcginn@journalsentinel.com
    Posted: May 4, 2007
    Green Bay - Justin Harrell has a plan. He intends to turn jeers to cheers, just the way Donovan McNabb did it in Philadelphia.

    Even now, a week later, it still boggles the mind. How an estimated 2,000 green-and-gold-clad fans in the Lambeau Field atrium let general manager Ted Thompson have it with boos described as "deafening" after the Green Bay Packers selected Harrell in the first round of the National Football League draft.

    Thompson pretended the reception didn't sting but he would have to be devoid of emotion for it not to hurt. The same goes for Harrell, who was with his family back home in Martin, Tenn.

    On Friday, Harrell was introduced to state reporters for the first time and took the high road, refusing the chance to lash out at fans.

    "Yeah, I saw it, I heard about it," Harrell said. "That's something I can't control, but I understood where they were coming from. They're just showing their loyalty to this organization and what they felt like they really needed."

    McNabb was serenaded with boos eight years ago in New York when the Eagles used the second pick to select him rather than running back Ricky Williams. The so-called "Dirty Thirty," groupie-type listeners of Philly sports talk radio station WIP, were responsible.

    Not only that but Philadelphia Mayor Ed Rendell, now governor of Pennsylvania, lobbied for Williams and then ripped the selection of McNabb afterward.

    In the end, after McNabb proved himself as the finest quarterback in Eagles history, each "Dirty Thirty" member as well as Rendell apologized to him.

    Harrell, the defensive tackle from Tennessee, isn't looking for 2,000 letters of apology anytime soon. But just as the slight undoubtedly helped motivate McNabb, who frequently has harkened back to the painful start of his NFL career, it probably will drive Harrell.

    "It does, but I'm not really going to focus on that," Harrell said. "I just want to show everybody that the Packers didn't make a bad decision selecting me.

    "Reggie McKenzie pulled me aside today and said: 'I don't want you coming in and changing anything. You just continue being the person you were at Tennessee and everything will work out.' That's what I want to do."

    Harrell hit a lot of the right notes during his 15 minutes at the podium, coming across as humble, straight-forward and goal-oriented. No one from the Packers has ordained Harrell as a regular at one of their deeper positions but it's clear what he expects from himself as a rookie.

    "I will come in and work as hard as I can and try to put the coaching staff in position that I'll be ready to start," he said. "When the regular season rolls around, I plan on being a starter."

    Harrell called his selection by the Packers at No. 16 as "a big shock," seeing that he had little or no contact with the team since a brief meeting at the combine.

    But having said that, Harrell professed to being comfortable in the small-town environment and enthusiastic about playing for a franchise steeped in tradition.

    One of his heroes, the late Reggie White, addressed the Volunteers a few times during Harrell's five-year stay in Knoxville. He became the last Tennessee player to wear White's now-retired No. 92 jersey. Green Bay issued him No. 91.

    "I got a chance to meet him and his wife," Harrell said. "He was a great person on the field but also off the field. He's one of the people you want to model your game and your life after. That's one thing I tried to do."

    Harrell, 6 feet 4½ inches and 310 pounds, stands about one-half inch shorter than White and almost the same weight.

    He's also comparable in size to Kevin Williams (6-5, 311), the ninth pick in the 2003 draft who has two Pro Bowl appearances and 30 sacks in four seasons for the Minnesota Vikings.

    Williams ran 40 yards in 4.85 seconds, a major difference from Harrell's 5.06. But Harrell performed better than Williams in three of four athletic tests at the combine and also was stronger on the bench press.

    On Friday, two NFL personnel directors disagreed that the comparison between Harrell and Williams had validity. However, two insisted that it did.
    "I don't see why you wouldn't say that," one of the scouts said. "Is he that good? I didn't see that. But I saw a big man that was athletic like Kevin Williams. The only question mark was the durability."

    It has been about seven months since Harrell underwent surgery to repair a torn biceps. His collegiate playing days also were interrupted by leg surgery in March 2003 and a broken ankle in August 2003. He promises to be full-go for minicamp in two weeks.

    "I look at my injuries like I was unlucky," Harrell said. "I broke my ankle tackling a tackling dummy. You can't really predict tearing your bicep reaching out for a tackle. They're unfortunate injuries that I can't really explain."

    Harrell also has been compared to Jacksonville's defensive tackle tandem of Marcus Stroud (6-6, 321, 5.10, three Pro Bowls, 17½ sacks in six years) and John Henderson (6-7, 328, 5.01, no Pro Bowls, 20½ sacks in five years).

    Scouts say Harrell isn't as talented as Tennessee's Albert Haynesworth (6-5½, 317, 4.85, no Pro Bowls, nine sacks in five years) but plays much harder.

    "We played the run pretty good at Tennessee," Harrell said. "We used technique, tried to create havoc and ran to the ball. That's what I plan on bringing to this organization."

    And if some Packers backers come to apologize, Harrell's career will have come full circle.

  • #2
    Bob McGinn has to be the biggest idiot alive. It still boggles his mind that TT got booed? Bob, let me spell it out for ya real easy. The problem is not with Harrell personally, it is the fact that TT took a DT when there are gaping holes everywhere on offense. And comparing it to McNabb and Ricky Williams? Thats a stretch. Yes Philly wanted Williams, but they also detested McNabb at the time. Packer fans don't detest Harrell, they detest the choice. But your a TT suck up and can't get your head out of his a$$ long enough to see reality, but thats ok. You need to keep your paychecl one way or another.

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    • #3
      I'm not really mystified that fans boo. I'm mystified that enough people there thought they knew enough in order to determine whether a guy was a good pick or a bad pick within 3 seconds of the pick being announced. None of us, no matter how many draft magazines we read, have any real idea whether any of these picks will be good players. Having a conviction either way on this is simply delusional. Having such a conviction as soon as the pick is announced is a little baffling.

      Booing the pick is based on 2 things:
      1) The thought that some of the offensive players available would be better than the guys we have on the roster.
      2) The thought that Harrell wouldn't become an absolute force and a linchpin of a dominant defense.

      Claiming to know any of those things with certainty, is simply baffling. I freely admit that my reaction to the pick was "Huh, who's that guy?" but I can't say booing ever crossed my mind. The time to boo the GM on the draft is after you've seen the guys play, not after you've seen what the pick was.
      </delurk>

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      • #4
        Just talk to the random fan around Greenbay; they don't know what they don't know which translates into (they think they know everything.)

        McGinn is sort of the opposite of this. Christl was the same. These two were and are my favorite sports writers.
        Formerly known as JustinHarrell.

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        • #5
          You go Justin!! Prove 'em all wrong!
          "Greatness is not an act... but a habit.Greatness is not an act... but a habit." -Greg Jennings

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          • #6
            Originally posted by JustinHarrell
            Just talk to the random fan around Greenbay; they don't know what they don't know which translates into (they think they know everything.)

            McGinn is sort of the opposite of this. Christl was the same. These two were and are my favorite sports writers.
            my thoughts exactly. who knows how good Harrell will be, but i love having depth at both lines, and was suprised TT didnt go with another OL in the fourth round just to solidify it with better backups in case of injury and help keeping guys fresh. It wouldnt have bothered me if tt wouldnt picked up lineman on both sides with every single pick. That is where games are won and lost in football. Favre and co. will have a ton of success if given time to throw and holes for running opening up, and a defense that consistently gives us the ball back by pressuring opposing QBs an letting our backers and DB's make plays when QB's have to throw too quickly. Thats how you win in the NFL. I like tt's mindset. Plus he always goes after quality, smart, FOOTBALL players, rather than dumb fast athletes. We have a team with guys who have FOOTBALL mindsets and nasty attitudes on the lines. i'm exited to see more progression this year. WE WILL make the playoffs if we stay healthy.
            "...one thing about me during the course of a game, I get emotional and say things my grandmother lets me know about later. But nobody wants to win on that field anymore than I do, no one." Brett Favre

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            • #7
              Justin Harrell, I would think, is smart enough to know that the fans were not booing HIM.

              Whether fans will admit it or not, we all openly and some secretly, hoped that TT's first pick would be one that would help out Favre and the offense. Sending a signal, that in addition to his 'read my lips' talk, he does/did want Favre to return.

              The negative reation came from pure knee-jerking surprise.

              Harrell needs to report and do his job, he doesn't need to prove to TT anythng.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by packinpatland
                Justin Harrell, I would think, is smart enough to know that the fans were not booing HIM.
                Maybe after a couple seconds of thought, but it had to sting a bit when it happened. Actually the New York Post blamed ESPN for showing the booing, and I'd agree it wasn't necessary to show that. I'm sure it's already completly forgotten and as you and others pointed out, they weren't really booing him anyway.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Rastak
                  Originally posted by packinpatland
                  Justin Harrell, I would think, is smart enough to know that the fans were not booing HIM.
                  Maybe after a couple seconds of thought, but it had to sting a bit when it happened. Actually the New York Post blamed ESPN for showing the booing, and I'd agree it wasn't necessary to show that. I'm sure it's already completly forgotten and as you and others pointed out, they weren't really booing him anyway.
                  You're entirely right, as was the NYP.

                  Now, as to your avatar, those snicker bars really do look too much like hair rollers. I'm not the first to notice this. You really should have something more 'viking-like'

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by packinpatland
                    Originally posted by Rastak
                    Originally posted by packinpatland
                    Justin Harrell, I would think, is smart enough to know that the fans were not booing HIM.
                    Maybe after a couple seconds of thought, but it had to sting a bit when it happened. Actually the New York Post blamed ESPN for showing the booing, and I'd agree it wasn't necessary to show that. I'm sure it's already completly forgotten and as you and others pointed out, they weren't really booing him anyway.
                    You're entirely right, as was the NYP.

                    Now, as to your avatar, those snicker bars really do look too much like hair rollers. I'm not the first to notice this. You really should have something more 'viking-like'

                    Yea, plus nobody really gets the joke anyway......

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                    • #11
                      I think Harrell will be a great player. I was dissapointed only because I wanted to get a good RB or Saftey with our first pick.

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                      • #12
                        I hope Harrell will be a great player. I like that we are giving him a shot even though he has had a major injury that has ended players careers, didn't play much in 2006 and has an injury history. He wasn't worthy of a first round contract because of this. That is my only knock on the pick. I think TT could have served the immediate team needs better by taking Quinn or trading down or out of the first round. There is no doubt in my mind that Quinn will be a better QB than Rodgers. But it was a tough call on who to pick or what to do given that Quinn was the best player on the board when we picked. Harrell will not prove TT right or wrong. He has the makings of a great DT, he just has the history that is questionable. It's our offense that is in question. TT did draft offensive players, however we were already deep at WR with no names, now we are deeper. RB is a toss up, although I like the picks we got. We need veteran leadership on this team. If TT doesn't puick up some good veteran offensive players after the cuts, it will be obvious to the fans that he has no intention of winning while Favre is still around. Favre as it stands right now has to carry this team on his back. At his age, the team should be carrying him so he can make better decisions and go out on top.

                        I know a lot of you get on me about my reasoning for drafting smart in the first round. I do not believe Harrell was the right choice in the first round. I do have a personal example I will share that is what I would have done as well:

                        My daughter moved up to the Senior division in softball this year. Every year, each division holds a draft in late February, early March. I am not coaching this year because I want to enjoy watching her play and not worry about the other stuff so I did not participate in the draft for the first time in about 8 years. I tried this 2 years ago and my daughter went #1 in the draft and I got roped into coaching for two more years when the other coach moved out of town which was unforeseen. Anyway, from July 2005 through December 2006, my daughter sustained a broken wrist (softball), pulled tendon (basketball), torn tendon (softball, same one that never healed the first time), broken thumb(soccer) and a torn MCL (basketball). Now, if she had said something about the pain in most of her injuries, they probably would have only been sprains and she wouldn't have had the problems she had. She has a big heart and wants to play. When it came time for this years draft, my daughter once again was a first round talent pick. Pitchers usually go first in Seniors so her not being picked first doesn't surprise me a bit. The year though, she was picked last in the second round because the coaches think she is injury prone. The coach took her because he was skeptical of this. He had the first overall pick in the first round, the first and last picks in the second round. His team wasn't very good last year and he lost 7 girls out of 13 so he has to "rebuild". I didn't hear about the "injury prone" stuff until after the NFL draft when I talked to a guy I used to coach with and even he couldn't convince the head coach on his team to take her in the first. The coach that drafted her has been to a few of my daughter's high school games and talked to me at length about her injuries. She is playing just fine, isn't missing a beat and I am sure he is convinced she is good to go for this summer.

                        I just though I would share this because if I was a coach on another team, knowing that this girl missed a month of softball last summer (basically half the season) and had all of those injuries in her career, I too wouldn't have taken her until the later rounds. Even though she is probably the best non-pitcher player, I wouldn't take the risk because I need 10 healthy girls on the field.
                        "Once the people find they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the Republic.”
                        – Benjamin Franklin

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                        • #13
                          Merlin, that was interesting.
                          Is your daughter going to be playing in college?

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Rastak
                            Yea, plus nobody really gets the joke anyway......
                            Was it because he's going to be there a while?
                            </delurk>

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Merlin
                              I hope Harrell will be a great player. I like that we are giving him a shot even though he has had a major injury that has ended players careers
                              I wasn't aware there have been many (or any) football players whose careers have ended due to biceps tears. Can someone give me an example? My understanding is that it's an injury that's relatively common to recover fully from with surgery and rehab with no loss of strength.
                              </delurk>

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