From one extreme at GM to the other.

[woodbuck27]

I believe that as a board we should relax now on TT. Let's all hope he will have success with his draft. We can argue the plus or negative side till the cows come in, every day bet. now and seasons end.

That. . . is a waste of effort.

I agree wholeheartedly. We should really spend more time talking about the players than the GM. The die is cast on the GM, and right now we should really be getting excited for the season. I mean, rookie camp is going on right now. Regular minicamp starts soon. It's an exciting time to be a football fan! Let's stop kvetching about people who don't actually play the game.

Yup.

This off season has been (I'll say. . difficult for me) maybe just that on alot of us, who show up here almost daily and have hoped for more.

It's time to call on

[Scott Campbell]

Gee Brando, didnt you know that you are not allowed to have a differing opinion here?

Obviously, everyone is allowed to have an opinion here. And Mad allowing you to post this goofy crap is proof of exactly that. And we are allowed to agree, or disagree, and also post. This ain't practice, and you don't get to wear the red jersey. Brando is even free to offer me a tissue if he's comfortable enough with his own masculinity to do so.

Part of the entertainment value of most forums include participants arguing the merits of their thoughts. This is how it's supposed to work. If you just want to post your stuff without comment, maybe you'd be happier with a blog.

[4and12to12and4]

Re: From one extreme at GM to the other.

I was hanging out with some old friends this past weekend discussing the Packers and came to the conclusion that Ted Thompson is the exact opposite of Mike Sherman.

Sherman would reach for any free agent help he could get. The bigger the name, the more he went after the guy. The more we needed a position filled, the harder Sherman tried to fill it with a veteran player he thought could help the team win.
Its not that Thompson does not like free agents, he just doesnt like veteran free agents. He seems to prefer guys that he "discovers".

Remember Woodson? He makes a lot of money. And, he tried getting a certain LB last year, that wanted to stay in his own division. It was rumored we actually offered more for him.

Sherman was very into the idea of cohesion and keeping the team together as well as he could. If his salary cap situation dictated that he free up some cap space, he would come right out and tell people "this is the situation that we are in, and this is what we can do".
Ted came here as a head hunter. Bound and determined to "fix things". He chopped as many large salaries as he could as quickly as he could, regardless of the talent, positional need, or free space already on our cap room.

That is ridiculous. Bubba has sucked since TT has gotten here, so has Fergy, etc.. He could have easily discharged those salaries if this was his evil plan.

Sherman took chances in the draft to pick up a player at a position we needed. Thompson could care less about what the Packers need in the draft. He only drafts "the best player available".

So, was TT suppose to pick up a running back or receiver in the first round even though there was no one worth a 16th pick left? Apparantly you're only talking about the 1st round, because after that, we did get players i areas of need. You must have turned your TV off after the first few hours of the first day.

Sherman paid attention to team history, not just the history of Lambeau, but also the history of the Players he put on the field. Thompson hates anything that came B.T. (Before Ted) If you are not a player that Ted put on the team.....get ready for the Dagger in the back, because it doesnt matter what you have done for the Packers or who you are, you will be gone.

Oh, yeah, that's why Brett's still playing in Green and Gold. The evil TT must be too scared to get rid of him, even though he was here first. (there are many others still on the team pre-tt in previous posts, I don't need to address them all again.

Shermans teams had winning records.......Thompsons teams have not.

Sherman had Brett Favre, one of the greatest QB's of all time, and Reggie White, THE greatest QB killer of all time when we went to the SB. TT built the Seahawks SB team with Brett's backup. Enough said.

The teams Sherman put on the field had you expecting wins. The teams Thompson put on the field make you lose your lunch.

Well, then, the Texans fans we're pretty disappointed last year, if that is what they "expected".

Hind sight is 20-20 for everyone except the blind. Thompson has been here long enough to make comparisons. I am not saying either of these guys are the perfect GM. I think they are extreme opposites of one another, and we could actually use a GM somewhere in the middle.

So, do you think that TT should have paid the outragious salary that Sherman was OK with for Ahman Green this offseason? Should Sherman have passed up Reggie Bush, one of the most dynamic RB's in the league for a defensive lineman? Most of what you say in this post is simply not true. You assume that TT cares more about his own ego than winning. That makes no sense. He knows that if he doesn't win, he fails. If he fails, he will be fired, and if he's fired for failing, why would anyone else want him. So, to believe what you are saying, is to believe that TT is a bigger egomaniac than TO. It makes no sense. TT is doing what he thinks is best for the team now and in the future. Period. If you disagree with his decisions, that's fine, then say that he sucks as a talent scout and a GM. But I'm sick of these conspiracy theories that TT wants only HIS guys and only HIDDEN GEMS to PROVE that he is better than everyone. It's both ridiculous and redundant. Spare me.

[RashanGary]

Tank?

[CaliforniaCheez]

Every month this comparison comes up and a lott of hot air is blown on both sides.

The Packers have been 12-20 under Ted Thompson. Initially I vehemently disagreed with the "cleaning house" approach. It was excessive.

However, I have liked the last 2 offseasons and you can see the Packers are headed for great things in 2008 with Brett.

So threads like this will continue to appear as it is 2007.

[retailguy]

Re: From one extreme at GM to the other.

The teams Sherman put on the field had you expecting wins. The teams Thompson put on the field make you lose your lunch.

Well, then, the Texans fans we're pretty disappointed last year, if that is what they "expected".

I always look to my Offensive Line/ Assistant Head Coach for the "predictor" of victories... which is the position he held the last time ANYONE could anticipate wins.

He now controls the OFFENSE. He doesn't control the team... He doesn't draft the players.... He doesn't forecast wins.... He probably doesn't have final say on anything...

Shermans teams DID win in GB. Give it a rest, OK? We know you hated him, he's gone... Really. He's gone.

The new sheriff is in town. He's 12-20, and on the brink of greatness, depending on which brand of "reality" you choose.

We shall see.

[Brando19]

Gee Brando, didnt you know that you are not allowed to have a differing opinion here?

Obviously, everyone is allowed to have an opinion here. And Mad allowing you to post this goofy crap is proof of exactly that. And we are allowed to agree, or disagree, and also post. This ain't practice, and you don't get to wear the red jersey. Brando is even free to offer me a tissue if he's comfortable enough with his own masculinity to do so.

Part of the entertainment value of most forums include participants arguing the merits of their thoughts. This is how it's supposed to work. If you just want to post your stuff without comment, maybe you'd be happier with a blog.

No Scotty honey...I'm sick and tired of posting on this forum to have YOU post some smart ass comment. It would be different if you just disagreed and said...this is why....instead you have to say, "Oh how silly," or "Bull Shit". I really like this forum...but your smart ass is making me not post as much because I get pissed off over all the degrading comments from you. How about the next time you argue someone's OPINION....because my gosh you're no expert...how about you do it in a way that doesn't make the other poster feel bad. Mkay?!?!?!

[Scott Campbell]

Didn't mean to make you feel bad. Want your tissue back?

[retailguy]

Gee Brando, didnt you know that you are not allowed to have a differing opinion here?

Obviously, everyone is allowed to have an opinion here. And Mad allowing you to post this goofy crap is proof of exactly that. And we are allowed to agree, or disagree, and also post. This ain't practice, and you don't get to wear the red jersey. Brando is even free to offer me a tissue if he's comfortable enough with his own masculinity to do so.

Part of the entertainment value of most forums include participants arguing the merits of their thoughts. This is how it's supposed to work. If you just want to post your stuff without comment, maybe you'd be happier with a blog.

No Scotty honey...I'm sick and tired of posting on this forum to have YOU post some smart ass comment. It would be different if you just disagreed and said...this is why....instead you have to say, "Oh how silly," or "Bull Shit". I really like this forum...but your smart ass is making me not post as much because I get pissed off over all the degrading comments from you. How about the next time you argue someone's OPINION....because my gosh you're no expert...how about you do it in a way that doesn't make the other poster feel bad. Mkay?!?!?!

Oh. Lord. Now we'll have to endure two or three days of "shermtard" comments and silly pictures...

thanks a lot Brando! :P

[Brando19]

Didn't mean to make you feel bad. Want your tissue back?

Nah...you can use it to stuff your pants.

[Joemailman]

RG,

You mean this picture? :P

[Scott Campbell]

You mean this pisture? :P

Beat me to it!

[Brando19]

RG,

You mean this picture? :P

[GrnBay007]

I wonder if Mike Sherman realizes/appreciates how much attention he still gets from the Packer Nation?

[Brando19]

I wonder if Mike Sherman realizes/appreciates how much attention he still gets from the Packer Nation?

I bet he misses the hell out of Green Bay and I bet he wishes TT the worst.