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  • #16
    Would that not be true of anyone's job performance?
    If a doctor could perform brilliant operations, but can't
    do a crossword puzzle, would he be a poor doctor?
    Who Knows? The Shadow knows!

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    • #17
      Originally posted by The Shadow
      Would that not be true of anyone's job performance?
      If a doctor could perform brilliant operations, but can't
      do a crossword puzzle, would he be a poor doctor?
      In essence, I agree. But there still is that small issue of 'character'.

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      • #18
        My early prediction is the Chargers beating ??? in the Super Bowl
        Pass Jessica's Law and keep the predators behind bars for 25 years minimum. Vote out liberal, SP judges. Enforce all immigrant laws!

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        • #19
          Pats connection started early
          By John Tomase
          Boston Herald Sports Writer
          Friday, May 4, 2007

          The seeds for Randy Moss’ arrival in New England were sowed long before last weekend. The mercurial wide receiver first expressed an interest in coming here last summer during Deion Branch’s holdout.
          The story of how Moss became a Patriot is nearly as fascinating as the man himself, according to various sources with knowledge of both sides of the negotiation. He arrived last Sunday for a fourth-round pick after all-night talks primarily between Patriots [team stats] head coach Bill Belichick and Raiders owner Al Davis.
          In reality, the courtship had started a year earlier, when Moss, miserable in Oakland, saw the Branch situation blow up and reached out to Belichick through an intermediary. He wanted the coach to know he’d love to play for the Pats.


          The Pats weren’t in a position to acquire him at that point, but kept him in their plans.
          The teams kept in touch this winter and the Patriots’ interest increased when the Raiders hired young Lane Kiffin as coach and Moss skipped offseason workouts. Wanting to take the team in a new direction, Kiffin determined that Moss had to go and shopped him earnestly before the draft.
          The Patriots and Packers quickly emerged as frontrunners. Each was given permission to negotiate a new contract with Moss’ agent, Tim DiPiero. Contrary to public opinion, Moss was willing to take less than the $21 million remaining to go to Green Bay. However, the Packers only offered a fifth-round pick.
          The question everyone had related to his wheels. While Moss’ representatives told anyone who would listen he could still run a 4.29 40-yard dash, those accounts were unverified.
          However, according to ESPN, Belichick privately worked out Moss in Florida this offseason and came away convinced that he still possessed his blazing speed. Neither Belichick nor Moss would address the report this week.
          While it might technically constitute tampering, the Raiders didn’t seem to care. They just wanted to get rid of Moss, and ultimately succeeded.
          The player got what he wanted, too - it just took a year.
          TERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWER

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          • #20
            Originally posted by The Shadow
            Would that not be true of anyone's job performance?
            If a doctor could perform brilliant operations, but can't
            do a crossword puzzle, would he be a poor doctor?
            It depends, if the crossword is on medical terminology....
            "I've got one word for you- Dallas, Texas, Super Bowl"- Jermichael Finley

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            • #21
              dang I'm bored with football lately; sure wish there was new news somewhere
              TERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWER

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              • #22
                Originally posted by Bretsky
                dang I'm bored with football lately; sure wish there was new news somewhere

                Yea, if we all had any brains, which it is clear we don't, we'd be enjoying the weather and not give it a second thought until camp opened.


                edit: I actually am enjoying the outdoors, just spending extra time looking for news that flat isn't there....

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by Bretsky
                  Each was given permission to negotiate a new contract with Moss’ agent, Tim DiPiero. Contrary to public opinion, Moss was willing to take less than the $21 million remaining to go to Green Bay. However, the Packers only offered a fifth-round pick.

                  Now, you're not going to claim that the Boston Herald is a "credible news source", are you? :P

                  We all know that Thompson was in it until the end. He offered a 4th, and probably a 3rd... but Moss just didn't want to play here!

                  (And I'm really grateful about that. :P )

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                  • #24
                    Here are the 2006 stats of the receivers the Patriots have acquired:

                    Moss: 42 catches for 553 yards
                    Stallworth: 38 catches for 725 yards
                    Washington: 9 catches for 115 yards
                    Welker: 67 catches for 687 yards.

                    I guess it's a good group, but I think they've been over-hyped. If a lesser team had signed these guys, I wonder if everybody would be so impressed with them.
                    I can't run no more with that lawless crowd
                    While the killers in high places say their prayers out loud
                    But they've summoned, they've summoned up a thundercloud
                    They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by Joemailman
                      Here are the 2006 stats of the receivers the Patriots have acquired:

                      Moss: 42 catches for 553 yards
                      Stallworth: 38 catches for 725 yards
                      Washington: 9 catches for 115 yards
                      Welker: 67 catches for 687 yards.

                      I guess it's a good group, but I think they've been over-hyped. If a lesser team had signed these guys, I wonder if everybody would be so impressed with them.
                      And now... the QB's tossing the passes to those receivers:

                      Aaron Brooks/Andrew Walter
                      Donovan McNabb/Jeff Garcia
                      Carson Palmer
                      Joey Harrington.

                      A stellar group to be sure.... Carson is a stud, McNabb is not as good but good... So, you think those QB's might have had an impact on those stats? :P

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by mraynrand
                        Wouldja believe too much french roast coffee? I'm celebrating the election returns in France and coffee seemed like a better choice than torching cars. Vive le France!


                        That is outstanding.

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                        • #27
                          Someone....I think during the draft thread....posted something about teams trying to buy a Super Bowl being jinxed. Don't remember the exact wording, but that was the jest of it and I liked it. :P

                          So there!! Sorry Bill, Tom and Randy. Bummer for you.

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                          • #28
                            The Patriots on paper have the most talented team in the NFL on offense. I seem to remember another team that wears purple that "on paper" had a very talented offense as well.

                            Nuff' said
                            "Once the people find they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the Republic.”
                            – Benjamin Franklin

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                            • #29
                              SB

                              Pats will win the SB. They have an outstanding QB with enough talent around him to get the job done. Maroney is on his way to being a stud and will have a solid year.

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                              • #30
                                I wish we had Maroney. I am not so sure about the Super Bowl though. They normally make it there with average players who play well as a team. Anyone who has a "me" attitude usually doesn't stick around longer. I will be surprised if they do because for the first time they have too much talent.
                                "Once the people find they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the Republic.”
                                – Benjamin Franklin

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