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  • #16
    Originally posted by ahaha
    How could any receiver have a good season when the quarterback stinks and his offensive line is allowing him to be sacked over 70 times?
    Maybe by actually TRYING....on every play.... instead of only when he felt like it.

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    • #17
      I've never been a real big Kerry Collins fan, but he wasn't absolutely awful as a QB. At least he He was experieinced, and he was the QB for two of Moss' 3 seasons with the Raiders.

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      • #18
        Originally posted by Patler
        I've never been a real big Kerry Collins fan, but he wasn't absolutely awful as a QB. At least he He was experieinced, and he was the QB for two of Moss' 3 seasons with the Raiders.
        He was pretty bad with Oakland. But, I agree that he was a decent QB when he had an adequate o-line. He had to deal with too much pressure during his stint there.

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        • #19
          Collins seems like a guy that doesn't like to be hit, and gets flustered when he does get hit, which in Oakland meant that he was pretty much flustered all the time! Good thing he wasn't with the Texans!

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          • #20
            best news I've heard this week!! I didnt want keyshaun at all!!!!!!!

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            • #21
              Johnson would not be a big help in GB. he is strong and goes across the middle, that is where Driver goes. Except for being taller Driver is the better WR. He was not that great in the redzone for the 6 years he has 25 TDs.

              He is a good WR but I believe he would be any real help at all. You also have to look at how he acts when he doesn't get the ball. Can you see him getting in Favres face about not getting the ball. In the long run he would be detrimental to the team. He wants to go to Tennessee or Oakland, but neither is interested. GB should keep the money and work with what they have.

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              • #22
                Originally posted by Bretsky
                Moss is a much more talented player at this point in his career. Better speed, better red zone target. Just a better player. Stats don't matter much on this one; give Keyshawn the Raiders QB and his would be nasty too.

                My level of expectations have changed since the Moss and draft went down so no need to bring in vets; load this group up with young guys and see if any of them are players.
                It's called a reality check.

                Good for not beating yourself up.
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                • #23
                  Who"s employed on a contender at this time?

                  Randy Moss or Keyshawn Johnson?

                  Those questions will assist in the who's better debate.
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                  • #24
                    Keyshawn's not coming to Green Bay? Break out the Sparkling Cidar!

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by woodbuck27
                      Who"s employed on a contender at this time?

                      Randy Moss or Keyshawn Johnson?

                      Those questions will assist in the who's better debate.

                      Moss was shopped for 3 months before a deal was made. Johnson has been available for all of a week.

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                      • #26
                        I think this debate comes down to a high ceiling/high floor argument. The team getting Keyshawn is more likely to get what they think they are getting--which is a decent, albeit old, player. High floor. Low ceiling. The team getting Moss has the potential to get a great player OR an injury prone, broken down player (or headcase). His ceiling (e.g. potential) is higher, but his floor isn't.
                        "There's a lot of interest in the draft. It's great. But quite frankly, most of the people that are commenting on it don't know anything about what they are talking about."--Ted Thompson

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by woodbuck27
                          Who"s employed on a contender at this time?

                          Randy Moss or Keyshawn Johnson?

                          Those questions will assist in the who's better debate.

                          True. Though he only fetched a 4th rounder in return for the trade. That says a lot about his value too.

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by HarveyWallbangers
                            I think this debate comes down to a high ceiling/high floor argument. The team getting Keyshawn is more likely to get what they think they are getting--which is a decent, albeit old, player. High floor. Low ceiling. The team getting Moss has the potential to get a great player OR an injury prone, broken down player (or headcase). His ceiling (e.g. potential) is higher, but his floor isn't.
                            Well-put! N.E. is hoping Moss doesn't pull the floor out from beneath others!

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by Patler
                              Originally posted by HarveyWallbangers
                              I think this debate comes down to a high ceiling/high floor argument. The team getting Keyshawn is more likely to get what they think they are getting--which is a decent, albeit old, player. High floor. Low ceiling. The team getting Moss has the potential to get a great player OR an injury prone, broken down player (or headcase). His ceiling (e.g. potential) is higher, but his floor isn't.
                              Well-put! N.E. is hoping Moss doesn't pull the floor out from beneath others!
                              If Moss doesn't come on with just the right attitude in NE.

                              The fans will eat him alive. Also he"ll toss his marketability as a FA out the door.

                              I look for Randy Moss to be rejuvenated in the total package and football climate that the NE Pat's want to provide.
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                              • #30


                                Johnson should be Denver's key catch

                                By Woody Paige
                                Denver Post Staff Columnist

                                Article Last Updated: 05/09/2007 12:11:38 AM MDT


                                Keyshawn Johnson has 814 catches for 10,571 yards, but recently was cut by the Panthers.

                                The Raiders and the Titans are interested.

                                The Chargers and the Saints are uninterested.

                                "Dancing with the Stars" probably is intrigued. The Jets, the Bucs, the Cowboys and the Panthers definitely won't dance with him anymore.

                                The Broncos should sign Keyshawn Johnson this week.

                                Last year Johnson caught more passes than the Broncos' leading receiver, Javon Walker, 70 to 69, and had only six fewer yards than the combined totals of the Broncos' No. 2 and No. 3 receivers, Rod Smith and Brandon Marshall, 821 to 815.

                                He started 16 games, which is 12 more than new Broncos wide receiver Brandon Stokley played (because of injuries) during 2006.

                                Johnson, who will be 35 in July, has 35 fewer catches and 818 fewer yards in his career than Smith, who will be 37 on May 15.

                                Mike Shanahan has utilized empty backfield, five-receiver sets in the past. Imagine Walker, Smith, Johnson, Marshall and Stokley on the field on the same play. Or consider Walker, Smith and Johnson in the game at the same time.

                                If the Broncos are going all the way next season, they should go all the way now.

                                They didn't want to give up anything to get Randy Moss. They won't have to give up anything to sign Johnson, and he will come much cheaper on payday.

                                Don't ask why. Explain to me why not.

                                It's so true that Johnson, like Moss, has been an enigmatic receiver since being drafted first overall in 1996, then jettisoned by the Jets, the Bucs, the Cowboys and, the day after the recent draft, the Panthers.

                                But the 6-foot-4 receiver was released by Carolina because of salary cap and youth issues, not because he had been a rabble-rouser or a has-been.

                                Johnson was due a $3 million bonus if he stayed in Charlotte another season, and the Panthers drafted USC receiver Dwayne Jarrett in the second round.

                                Johnson, who was working with ESPN as a commentator on draft day, said he was excited about the pick.

                                "We need another receiver," he said. Jarrett immediately replaced Johnson, and "we" became "they."

                                Johnson, who was told by Tampa Bay coach Jon Gruden to stay away from the team for the final six games of the Bucs' 2003 season, has cleaned up his nasty act, possibly because he finally matured, and maybe because he eventually seeks to be a TV commentator, and maybe because he hopes for Hall of Fame consideration.

                                He is unafraid to run across the middle, will clutch the football and is a superior blocker. He could be a 60-catch, 600-yard receiver in Shanahan's system.

                                Johnson is exactly the man of experience the Broncos need to join their receiving corps.

                                The cocky author of the book "Just Give Me The Damn Ball!" when he was a rookie in New York claims he isn't ready to quit and wishes to play for a legitimate championship contender.

                                That should eliminate Oakland and Tennessee.

                                The Chargers have just told Johnson's agent they will pass on, not to, the receiver, which could be a serious mistake the Broncos shouldn't emulate.

                                New England's addition of Moss and the return of the Colts' championship pass offense have made them Las Vegas Super Bowl favorites at 5-1 and 11-2, just ahead of San Diego at 6-1.

                                The Broncos are bunched with several want-to-be whippets at 25-1.

                                The "wiseguys" aren't sure about Jay Cutler and the Broncos' revamped defense. Johnson would improve the Broncos' odds for the title, if not in the casino sports books.

                                Johnson wouldn't cost the Broncos a fortune, a draft pick or a linebacker.

                                He says he won't play for the minimum ($820,000), but the Broncos could make an offer that includes a signing bonus, $1 million in salary (which is what the Panthers would have paid him) and several incentive clauses (which is more than a network will pay him).

                                Not bad rental for one year, especially if the Broncos can persuade another veteran to restructure his contract slightly to make room under the cap.

                                Johnson could get another Super Bowl ring, and the Broncos would have the final offensive threat - and a safety net given the usual wide receiver injuries, the rawness of Marshall and the uncertainties of Smith's future and Stokley's comeback.

                                Just give him the dadgum contract.

                                Staff writer Woody Paige can be reached at 303-954-1095 or wpaige@denverpost.com.
                                ** Since 2006 3 X Pro Pickem' Champion; 4 X Runner-Up and 3 X 3rd place.
                                ** To download Jesus Loves Me ring tones, you'll need a cell phone mame
                                ** If God doesn't fish, play poker or pull for " the Packers ", exactly what does HE do with his buds?
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