12-20 and a pissed off Brett Favre! Thanks TT.

[gbpackfan]

Yeah, yeah. I've got news for you. Free agents next year will get more money then free agents this year got. The year after that, free agents will get more then free agents got the year before. Salaries aren't going to magically go down.

Sure, next year they will get more money. But the cap will go up less, so there will be less new money, and TT won't have blown it this year on overpaid, mediocre players.

Just wait and see.

I hope you are right. No, I pray that you are right!

[Rastak]

Yeah, yeah. I've got news for you. Free agents next year will get more money then free agents this year got. The year after that, free agents will get more then free agents got the year before. Salaries aren't going to magically go down.

Sure, next year they will get more money. But the cap will go up less, so there will be less new money, and TT won't have blown it this year on overpaid, mediocre players.

Just wait and see.

So you believe getting a few guys this year would cripple the Packers cap situation next year and for years to come? It seems to me, Brandt and Thompson are clever enough to structure contracts to avoid that.

[Scott Campbell]

so why dont you tell us what exactly should have been done rather than disengenously asking for our input.

We should have worked a sign and trade with Ahman Green and LT. We should have traded next years 6th to the Colts for Peyton Manning to be Brett's backup. We should bought a time machine, gone back and redrafted Steve Smith ahead of Carolina. Or something.

[gbpackfan]

Yeah, yeah. I've got news for you. Free agents next year will get more money then free agents this year got. The year after that, free agents will get more then free agents got the year before. Salaries aren't going to magically go down.

Sure, next year they will get more money. But the cap will go up less, so there will be less new money, and TT won't have blown it this year on overpaid, mediocre players.

Just wait and see.

So you believe getting a few guys this year would cripple the Packers cap situation next year and for years to come? It seems to me, Brandt and Thompson are clever enough to structure contracts to avoid that.

Thank you Rastak. I hate agreeing with a Vikings fan you but you are dead on.

[gbpackfan]

so why dont you tell us what exactly should have been done rather than disengenously asking for our input.

We should have worked a sign and trade with Ahman Green and LT. We should have traded next years 6th to the Colts for Peyton Manning to be Brett's backup. We should bought a time machine, gone back and redrafted Steve Smith ahead of Carolina. Or something.

I agree with everyone one of those moves. I'll see if Harlan can make them happen.

[esoxx]

I agree Rastak. The Packers aren't going into cap hell by signing a few FA's that could actually help this season. Yes, typically you do overpay for FA's but you pay the going rate to help you round out your team. Having $25 million in cap room and having Frank Walker as the only FA signing seems out of whack.

But of course a lot of people were saying that TT was holding cap space b/c he was going to get Randy Moss and this was all to do about nothing.

I personally would have liked the Packers to obtain Travis Henry, wonder if he could have helped out this year.

[Rastak]

Yeah, yeah. I've got news for you. Free agents next year will get more money then free agents this year got. The year after that, free agents will get more then free agents got the year before. Salaries aren't going to magically go down.

Sure, next year they will get more money. But the cap will go up less, so there will be less new money, and TT won't have blown it this year on overpaid, mediocre players.

Just wait and see.

So you believe getting a few guys this year would cripple the Packers cap situation next year and for years to come? It seems to me, Brandt and Thompson are clever enough to structure contracts to avoid that.

Thank you Rastak. I hate agreeing with a Vikings fan you but you are dead on.

But I also agree the free agent class was weak. Still, today's overpay is tommorrow's bargin.

[RashanGary]

Half way through the season, if we're playing well all of this will go away. I'm not too concerned right now. Brett's been playing the retirement game for a long time. There is no need to jump off the deep end becuase Brett's crying about not getting Randy Moss.

Boo Hoo. If he doesn't like it he should retire and quit talking about it. NO, he won't retire, he'll sit and whine about it and then play another year at 12 mil. He really should keep his mouth shut and like bulldog said, noboby wins here. Talk radio was already callying him selfish and saying he should shut his mouth. Thompson is going ot get his flack too but FAvre is really taking his legacy down a notch. He'll definitly be remembered for a lot of this whining, the INT's and the losing that he did late in his career and he's piling on.

[Scott Campbell]

But I also agree the free agent class was weak. Still, today's overpay is tommorrow's bargin.

Unless he's your next Joe Johnson.

[BradStrand]

well you DO care that Im mocking you or YOU wont write back. (Touche... ha not really, about as clever as write back and you are stupid... ZING!)

seriously though, its not a thread battle, or whatever its just in fun.... and if getting randy moss is the best you can come up with then youve proved everyone elses point here. FA is shit and a shitty way to build a team.

PS How do you know one of these kids will be the #3 wide reciever.. have you looked ahead in time to see how training camp unfolds? If so, please use those precog skills to win the lottery... then you can buy an NFL team of your choice and Daniel Snyder yourself to your hearts content...

and give me more chances to continue mocking you

[Rastak]

well you DO care that Im mocking you or YOU wont write back. (Touche... ha not really, about as clever as write back and you are stupid... ZING!)

seriously though, its not a thread battle, or whatever its just in fun.... and if getting randy moss is the best you can come up with then youve proved everyone elses point here. FA is shit and a shitty way to build a team.

PS How do you know one of this kids will be the #3 wide reciever.. have you looked ahead in time to see how training camp unfolds? If so, please use those precog skills to win the lottery... then you can buy an NFL team of your choice and Daniel Snyder yourself to your hearts content...

and give me more chances to continue mocking you

I'm not sure 12 rookies every year is right either. I think it's a balance.

[esoxx]

He'll definitly be remembered for a lot of this whining, the INT's and the losing that he did late in his career

The losing HE did late in his career? I thought you said the Packers were a team, not just Brett Favre? But the losing is "his" losing?

Does that mean all the winning records they've had since he arrived in '92 was "his" winning? Which is it?

You're all over the board with your rants today.

[packers11]

JustinHarrell wrote:
He'll definitly be remembered for a lot of this whining, the INT's and the losing that he did late in his career

REALLY??? Oh yea the 1 losing season in his career... WOW thats a lot of losing in my book... Give me a break

[woodbuck27]

Holy crap settle down Packer fans.

This will all blow over because to use TT's term.

''It is what it is.''

Brett Favre is certainly not a happy camper. He's blowing off because of all that competitive steam. Some will rail against him for speaking out. Others will lay the knock on Ted Thompson's way of being our GM and say that Favre is justified in coming out negative.

Give it a few weeks and Favre will be back all pepped up to go as always and I believe that is the case now.

He may feel he needs more time to be fully recovered fr. his surgery or for whatever reason may miss this first mini camp, but for the sake of all things being bad enough in Packer land.

Lets not ride this story into one another's gunnels. We have a long tough season ahead.

[falco]

I agree that we could have picked up some players this year; I don't necessarily think any of them would have made a big difference.

If I'm TT, I'm not too worried about the present. He needs to have a team that can stand on its own without Favre. I've got to imagine he's keeping money in his pocket for that time as well.

Whether thats right or wrong, I can't say.