12-20 and a pissed off Brett Favre! Thanks TT.

[gbpackfan]

Now rip away. I know, all these players suck. They are either over paid or over the hill.

I'm sure your going to respond and I'll be more then happy to respond to your "mocking," but I gotta run.

I'll be happy to continue this "pointless and stupid" conversation with you later.

Go call your Mother and get off the computer!

[BooHoo]

POSTED 4:21 p.m. EDT, May 13, 2007- pft.com

PACKERS SCRAMBLE TO DOUSE FLAMING FANS

At a time when wildfires have been raging in several corners of the nation, there's a conflagration that currently is consuming Packer nation.

And the front office knows it.

Why else would the team put out an "all is well" press release on Mother's Day?

"We are optimistic about the 2007 season," Thompson said in the team-issued Sunday statement. "We feel like we've had a great offseason program -- our guys are getting bigger and stronger -- and we'll improve from within. We're also excited about the players we've added through the draft and what those players will bring to our team."

Thompson also addressed the recent comments of quarterback Brett Favre, who expressed dissatisfaction about the team's failure to land Randy Moss.

"I think it's natural for a player to be frustrated from time to time -- that's simply being human," said Thompson. "Everyone knows that Brett Favre is all about winning. As an organization, we share that commitment. And we want to win now."

And Thompson provided a carefully-crafted non-answer to the question of whether, as Jay Glazer of FOXSports.com reported earlier in the day, Favre has asked for a trade.

"We never comment on the talks we have with our players or with their agents, in line with the long-standing policy of our organization. We try to encourage open and honest dialogue with players and their agents. But if those talks later are shared with third parties, the willingness of players to be open in future conversations may be compromised."

Possible translation: "Yes, but because Brett currently has a literal and figurative hold on the nutsack of the front office, we don't want to take any chances that he might decide to squeeze even harder than he already has."

In our view, this Mother's Day missive is a desperate act from an organization that is facing a revolt from its fan base. And we're even more convinced that either Favre or Thompson will be not with the team come September. Given that the franchise is publicly owned, we wouldn't be surprised if someone were to file a shareholder's action aimed at forcing the team to have the same kind of accountability that would exist if there was a real owner calling the shots.

For his part, Favre is trying to help put out the fire. The post on his official site regarding rumors of Favre wanting a trade, which were confirmed by board administrator "DavidPHX," has been deleted. And DavidPHX has posted the following message: "Brett has asked that we all tone down the articles and any dislikes for management. He does not want his site to fuel rumors. Ted Thompson is his boss and we need to tone everything down. I believe the situation is over with. Brett vented said what he wanted and I believe management has heard. Brett loves the Green Bay Packers and has always felt we have the best fans in the WORLD . I expect Brett to return as the starting QB for the Green Bay Packers on September 9. Go Packers!"

Still, Favre is the one who has started this mess, both by privately asking to be traded and by publicly making his displeasure known. It's a storm of unprecedented proportion for the Packers, and we don't think the situation is going to get better any time soon. The only person to benefit from this brouhaha might be receiver Keyshawn Johnson, who could end up getting a lucrative offer to join the team in light of the fact that he's the only potential impact player who is on the market right now.

Looks like Brett thinks TT is not looking to be a winner, just trying to be average. Brett doesn't want to be average.
I wonder if he would have retired after last year if he knew what TT was going to do in FA and what we did in the draft?

[Scott Campbell]

Looks like Brett thinks TT is not looking to be a winner, just trying to be average.

This is pretty mind boggling. Do people really aspire to be average?

As critical as I was of Sherman, I never doubted that he was trying the best he could.

(outside of sleeping at the Combine)

[BooHoo]

Understood. Appears though Brett isn't a happy camper. This translates into thinking TT could have done more to help the team.

[The Shadow]

"....Looks like Brett thinks TT is not looking to be a winner, just trying to be average. Brett doesn't want to be average."

1. A GM trying 'to be average'????????
2. If Brett doesn't work harder at making better throwing decisions, he will soon be LESS than average.

[BooHoo]

Looks like Brett thinks TT is not looking to be a winner, just trying to be average.

This is pretty mind boggling. Do people really aspire to be average?

As critical as I was of Sherman, I never doubted that he was trying the best he could.

(outside of sleeping at the Combine)

I would say the same thing about Sherman.

[Packnut]

Favre

"....Looks like Brett thinks TT is not looking to be a winner, just trying to be average. Brett doesn't want to be average."

1. A GM trying 'to be average'????????
2. If Brett doesn't work harder at making better throwing decisions, he will soon be LESS than average.

Yeah, and after he throws the freakin ball he should catch it too. How many dropped balls last season? I guess those were his fault too? Hey, while your at it let's blame Favre for Jennings running the wrong route. Hey, it's also Brett's fault that Bubba avg'd 4.7 ypp which was LAST in the NFL for TE's. Damn that Favre for having max protection and sending out only 2 WR's.

Man, the stupidity here is just amazing..........

[Packnut]

TT

Favre should just retire. He's obviously not happy. He had his chance, he failed. Time for the next guy. Either that or shut up and play.

OK time for you to come clean. You really are Ted Thompson are'nt you?

[RashanGary]

Re: TT

OK time for you to come clean. You really are Ted Thompson are'nt you?

LOL..Believe it or not, that is a compliment to me.

Anyway, I'm going to state what I believe but I'm not going to get frustrated with you guys. Following a team involves a high level of passion and you guys are just standing up for what you believe, just like I am. I guess we just have to see how it plays out. I know you think there is nothing left to see and that this team is awfull but I disagree with that. I think this team has come a long, long way from the 4-12 2005 and think they have done it in a way where they can keep on building.

[The Shadow]

Re: Favre

[quote="Packnut"]

"....Looks like Brett thinks TT is not looking to be a winner, just trying to be average. Brett doesn't want to be average."

1. A GM trying 'to be average'????????
2. If Brett doesn't work harder at making better throwing decisions, he will soon be LESS than average.

Yeah, and after he throws the freakin ball he should catch it too. How many dropped balls last season? I guess those were his fault too? Hey, while your at it let's blame Favre for Jennings running the wrong route. Hey, it's also Brett's fault that Bubba avg'd 4.7 ypp which was LAST in the NFL for TE's. Damn that Favre for having max protection and sending out only 2 WR's.


Of course.
Each & every one of Favre's seemingly boneheaded plays over the course of his career can be attributed to a mistake by someone else.
Thanks for clearing that up.

[PackerBlues]

"....Looks like Brett thinks TT is not looking to be a winner, just trying to be average. Brett doesn't want to be average."

1. A GM trying 'to be average'????????
2. If Brett doesn't work harder at making better throwing decisions, he will soon be LESS than average.

Is it just me, or does anyone else think that maybe, just maybe Brett Favre may have had a better quarterback rating if only Thompson had put some real talent on the field on the O-line. Cause I was just thinking that when the pocket consistantly collapses in front of a quarterback, it makes it a little harder to complete a pass. Having to run around and scramble just to keep from losing yardage and avoid sacks didnt seem to help his completion percentage either. Then I guess maybe you could look at the fact that his tight ends and everyone in the running game was being used for "max-protection" to make up for the lack of talent on the O-line, and we find that he has fewer tartgets to throw to. Of the targets he did have to throw to, Driver was the only guy that played with any consistancy at all.

Funny how some people could ignore all that and spout something like "If Brett doesn't work harder at making better throwing decisions, he will soon be LESS than average".

funny

[The Shadow]

"....Looks like Brett thinks TT is not looking to be a winner, just trying to be average. Brett doesn't want to be average."

1. A GM trying 'to be average'????????
2. If Brett doesn't work harder at making better throwing decisions, he will soon be LESS than average.

Is it just me

It's just you.
Go with your first instinct in this case.

[BradStrand]

Randy McMichael, Randy Moss (trade), Willis McGahee (trade), Donte Stallworth, Adalias Thomas, Travis Henry, Ken Hamlin, Roderick Hood, and Drew Bennett are all players that TT could have signed to improve this team. There are others, but I am not going to list every FA at every position. And I am not saying to sign all of these players. But a couple would have been nice.

Now rip away.

Thank you, I will!

Randy. Mc. Michael. ok. Miami saw David Martin as an upgrade, but who knows, yeah maybe...

Your trades (not FA but Ill bite) Moss is Moss. We will see how that ends up (I truely dont have any clue).
McGahee was a malcontent who didnt want to play in a small town like Buffalo, I can pretty much guarantee he wouldnt have come to GB... he does have nice talent though. But concidering they had to pay the man all kinds of Joe Johnson's to give him a new deal, I can certainly understand why TT would like his chances of getting somebody in a RB deep draft to carry the ball at a rookie salary for 4 years.

Donte Stallworth... would he help out the Recieving depth? Yep! Is he better than DD or Jennings? Nope! Would he then be overpaid? Yep!

Ken Hamlin was a real nice player until he broke his skull, that ones too bad

I honestly dont know much about Hood (other than getting less stars than Ahmad Carrol) maybe he'll be an impact player.

Drew Bennet.. I couldnt believe he signed for 30 million Joe Johnson's with 10 million of those Joe's guaranteed...

Adalius Thomas. So so so many Joe Johnsons. He couldnt play linebacker for us BTW.

So.. I dunno. except foe the Moss thing, which I dont know how anybody really knows how that would have worked out, color me unsuede.

But you are right, none of those positions could have upgraded via free agency. We should just sit on the cash

And who said that? I personally like giving nice long extensions to the players we have that stepped up and have proven themselves as performers in GB. Id sign Nick Barnett to an extension any day over any Adalius Thomas you can throw out there.

And thanks, for calling me pal.

[PackerBlues]

"....Looks like Brett thinks TT is not looking to be a winner, just trying to be average. Brett doesn't want to be average."

1. A GM trying 'to be average'????????
2. If Brett doesn't work harder at making better throwing decisions, he will soon be LESS than average.

Is it just me

It's just you.
Go with your first instinct in this case.

My first instinct was to call you a fucking moron.

[Bretsky]

Yeah, yeah. I've got news for you. Free agents next year will get more money then free agents this year got. The year after that, free agents will get more then free agents got the year before. Salaries aren't going to magically go down.

Sure, next year they will get more money. But the cap will go up less, so there will be less new money, and TT won't have blown it this year on overpaid, mediocre players.

Just wait and see.

So you believe getting a few guys this year would cripple the Packers cap situation next year and for years to come? It seems to me, Brandt and Thompson are clever enough to structure contracts to avoid that.

Bottom line is there were players that could have improved this squad w/o breaking the bank. Personally I really liked Deon Grant.

Guys like the FB Griffith, S Hamlin, or TE E Johnson would have been cost effective options as well.

I don't think any of us are saying break the bank or one certain player would push this team over the top.

I DO THINK several are saying that GB should be participating in free agency and attempting to improve the team w/o breaking the bank.