GM TT PERFORMANCE REVIEW/OFFICIAL FAVRE WATCH

[packinpatland]

agreed...but I just hate reading a story that says citing anonymous sources....if you can't tell me who, don't write the damn story.

Man, that's true of all walks of life......shit, we just found out about the watergate snitch. Sometimes people will get fired if they go on record.....

We don't even know for sure who 'you're so vain' is yet, for heaven's sake.

[RashanGary]

If the Packer offense scores more this year than last year, does the entire board owe Thompson an apology?

I don't think anyone will appologize because he should have made us better but they certainly should get off his back if the team performs.

[pbmax]

You can disagree about the Packers cap situation in 2004/2005, but you can't say they were allowed to walk. Both Rivera and Wahle received offers that the Packers weren't close to matching and the Rivera money was stupid.

Sharper was much closer, but I never shared the glowing assessment of his play that the writer has.

Thompson has said under their cap situation they could have signed one of them. So this argument comes down to cap flexibility or Wahle.

The Packers were more than an Offensive Line away from competing. The North wasn't a powerhouse and winning three division titles didn't mean they were competing for a Super Bowl. They were being beaten regularly and clearly in the playoffs.

This was not a team on the cusp of greatness, it was in decline.

It has seemed obvious that Thompson wanted to tear the Packers down and rebuild with his own coaches and players since the end of 2005. That might be good for some teams, but the Packers had just won three consecutive division titles before Thompson walked in the door. In 2005 he let three very important players walk away (LG Mike Wahle, RG Marco Rivera, and FS Darren Sharper), then the Packers best player from 2004 is lost for the season (WR Javon Walker), then RB Ahman Green is injured for most of the season, and all the free agents Thompson signed were busts.

[TopHat]

PACKER NEWS: UPDATE

http://www.packersnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070513/GPG020801/70513035/1989

Did Favre seek trade after Moss deal fizzled? Source thinks QB is still committed to Packers

Within a few days after the draft, Brett Favre apparently asked the Green Bay Packers to trade him, but indications suggest he’s now not pushing for a deal to another club. Favre was and remains upset the team didn’t acquire receiver Randy Moss in a trade he lobbied General Manager Ted Thompson and Moss to complete. The quarterback publicly expressed his frustration on Saturday to reporters covering his annual charity golf outing in Mississippi. On Sunday, the Fox Sports Web site cited anonymous sources saying Favre’s agent, Bus Cook, called the team a couple of days after last month’s draft and asked the Packers to trade his client.
Favre never said or suggested to reporters Saturday he wants to be traded. But he said that the failure to acquire Moss from Oakland - the Raiders dealt him to New England instead - is evidence Thompson is rebuilding for a couple of years down the road. The 37-year-old Favre is down to his perhaps his last year or two in the NFL and wants a better chance to win now. A source close to Favre told the Press-Gazette on Sunday that Favre might have talked about wanting a trade shortly after the draft but has given no such indication recently. Favre finally spoke with coach Mike McCarthy in the last week or so, the first time the two had talked since the draft.
“He wouldn’t be doing these offseason workouts and all that (if he wanted a trade),” the source said. “He’s been busting his (butt). I don’t see him not playing for (the Packers). It wouldn’t surprise me if he told (Cook) or somebody that (he wanted a trade) - he was mad - but he wouldn’t be busting his (butt) like this.” It remains unclear whether Favre will attend the Packers’ mandatory minicamp this weekend. Favre will not take part in the practices because he’s recovering from arthroscopic surgery on his left ankle, and the source said Favre would prefer to remain in Mississippi working out rather than attend the camp. But at his golf outing, Favre left open the door to attending the camp.
Favre is close to being fully recovered from February’s surgery to remove bone spurs from his left ankle. He’s been rehabilitating and also performing the core-strength oriented workout program with the same personal trainer he hired two years ago for the most rigorous offseason training of his career. Favre appears especially upset about the failed Moss trade because he thought a deal could have been completed easily. It’s not entirely clear why the trade fell through on draft weekend, but a major factor appears to be that Thompson insisted Moss take part of his $3 million salary in substantial weekly roster bonuses that would be paid only if he played each week. Moss would have taken the $3 million salary but rejected the roster-bonus contingency. Favre on Saturday said he offered to give up an equal amount of his $11 million salary to cover the cost of Moss’ roster bonuses, which is believed to be in the range of $800,000 to $1 million.
However, salary-cap room is not an issue for the Packers, because they are about $15 million under the $109 million cap. Thompson responded to Favre’s statements over the weekend with a written press release Sunday. “I think it’s natural for a player to be frustrated from time to time - that’s simply human nature,” Thompson said. “Everyone knows that Brett Favre is all about winning. As an organization, we share that commitment. And we want to win now.” Thompson said in the release he won’t comment on whether Favre or Cook asked for a trade. “We never comment on the talks we have with our players or with their agents, in line with the long-standing policy of organization,” Thompson said.
Thompson also defended his method of rebuilding the Packers, and said they’ll be better this year even without trading for Moss or signing any skill-position players for the offense in free agency. “We feel like we’ve had a great offseason program,” Thompson said. “Our guys are getting bigger and stronger, and we’ll improve from within. We’re also excited about the players we’ve added through the draft and what those players will bring to our team.”

[The Shadow]

Other.
I was completely neutral about Thompson when he was first hired - how can any new GM be evaluated before he's had a chance.
After watching the patient, solid, tough decisions & moves he's made, and seeing a floundering Packer team get back on the road to respectability, he has earned my support.

[Bretsky]

I'll admit I thought it would be 50-50 as far as being happy with TT

At this point it looks like one out of three are pleased with him

[The Shadow]

Where is the "QB Brett Favre Performance/Distraction Evaluation" survey?

[Bretsky]

Where is the "QB Brett Favre Performance/Distraction Evaluation" survey?

Whoever states the idea is obligated to make the poll

[b bulldog]

I'm surprised it is that high. The casual fan will here that our draft sucked and we didn't sign anyone so the GM must be awful.

[The Shadow]

I'd like to, but I have only recently mastered turning the computer ON, let alone designing a poll.

[Bretsky]

I'm surprised it is that high. The casual fan will here that our draft sucked and we didn't sign anyone so the GM must be awful.

Did we sign anyone ?

[BallHawk]

I'm surprised it is that high. The casual fan will here that our draft sucked and we didn't sign anyone so the GM must be awful.

The casual fan wouldn't be on a Packer's message board.

[PackerBlues]

I'm surprised it is that high. The casual fan will here that our draft sucked and we didn't sign anyone so the GM must be awful.

Did we sign anyone ?

LOL.......nope

[HarveyWallbangers]

Favre has always been too honest. No big surprise to me that he'd be honest here. Remember Super Bowl or bust. Remember ripping Javon and sticking up for Bubba. Remember his frustration with no offensive FAs signed last year.

I've been a moderate Thompson supporter who has stayed optimistic. I get the building through the draft. I get avoiding FAs even (although not to the extent he apparently does). What I don't get is: why even go after Moss? If he wasn't going to offer more than 5th round pick and a reasonable contract, why bother? Also, why bother even showing interest in Keyshawn Johnson?

[Spaulding]

I picked OTHER. I was not a Thompson fan when he started and am still on the fence but as I don't see of any way to clearly gauge a GM in just a few seasons I'm evidently one of the minority willing to give him another year or two.

I see the GM position (barring gross mis-judgements) as a five year tour where the first three drafts set the bar for the total five year run and then it would be monitoring the maturation of the draft choices and the direction of the team to determine the GM's accomplishments.

Given TT's personality and drafts are about as exciting as CSPAN I can certainly see the call for arms but here we are at the beginning of year three and we still really don't know what his draft picks will turn out like.