Favre: "I never wanted to be traded."

[RashanGary]

Let me point out to the "blind man" .......those guys all play defense......not offense.

They help win football games, no?

[retailguy]

It's good to have everything back to normal. The drama queen steps out, remembers he's important and then backtracks.



RG, after seeing this crap that Favre pulled, I can't help but have even more understanding for what Sherman tried to do. Favre has been subtly threatening the organization for a number of years and it began as soon as Sherm took over as GM. If I was Ted, I think I would have broke and just doen what Favre wanted. I don't think my convictions on running a team are nearly as strong as Thompsons though. If I was a part of building teams for 15 years and I knew what I wanted to do; I might say differently but damn, Thompson easily could have done just what Sherman did, failed and then been fired for trying.

Favre is not an easy guy to manage, that's for sure.

If you recall, I've always griped about Ted's managment skills. He largely put himself into this mess, with substantial help from Favre, but I do have to say I respect how he kept his cool and didn't "retaliate". That being said, I've got no idea whether or not he "had a plan" in this situation, or was "merely clueless" and didn't know HOW to respond.

I guess he gets the benefit doubt in the meantime... I guess he loses it, if we sign Keyshawn as a knee jerk reaction, huh? :P

[Scott Campbell]

I get it. So those guys were the oranges?

Does that make Pickett, Woodson and Manual the apples?

Yes it does. Now, you tell me, how much NEGOTIATION went on in those deals? I remember some "speculation" going on about Tampa Bay, but NEVER culminated in a contract offer. I remember some "speculation" going on regarding the Rams wanting Pickett back, but NEVER culminated in a contract offer. I also remember Ted jumping on Manuel as the "second coming of Christ" and we see quite clearly how well that worked out...

This proves your point, exactly how? :P

So let me get this straight. Ted must have worked at a Saturn dealership. You pay sticker, or walk home.

[Scott Campbell]

I get it. So those guys were the oranges?

Does that make Pickett, Woodson and Manual the apples?

Let me point out to the "blind man" .......those guys all play defense......not offense.

Perhaps PowderBlues can point out where I said they play offense? Hmmmm???

Who's blind now?

[retailguy]

I get it. So those guys were the oranges?

Does that make Pickett, Woodson and Manual the apples?

Yes it does. Now, you tell me, how much NEGOTIATION went on in those deals? I remember some "speculation" going on about Tampa Bay, but NEVER culminated in a contract offer. I remember some "speculation" going on regarding the Rams wanting Pickett back, but NEVER culminated in a contract offer. I also remember Ted jumping on Manuel as the "second coming of Christ" and we see quite clearly how well that worked out...

This proves your point, exactly how? :P

So let me get this straight. Ted must have worked at a Saturn dealership. You pay sticker, or walk home.

DING DING DING. We have a winner. This is EXACTLY what I'm saying related to veteran players that don't play for our team. You take the deal offered, or, YOU WALK AWAY.

Good to see I've got you on board!... :P

[Patler]

Chances are we will never know for sure. Today I heard an interview with Bob Harlan. What I understood him to say was:

The Packers tried hard to get Moss.
They made an offer they thought would do it.
They were not responded to, nor did they know they had no deal until hearing about the NE deal after the fact on TV.
Consequently, they never had the chance to respond to the NE offer.

Could it not also be said, that Ted has made what he thinks about acquisition of veteran players and salary demands pretty clear - "They are worth what they are worth".

If that is the perspective league wide, WHY call back with another offer? The price is the price, the terms are the terms. What suggests that Ted will "negotiate"? Really. I'm not being combative here.

If Ted wanted two seasons from Moss, which is probably true, what suggests he'd change his mind? If Ted refused guaranteed money, even after Brett offered to "essentially" pay it, what suggests he'd change his mind?

Seems to me, if you want to play for the Green Bay Packers, you take the deal that is offered, or you go somewhere else. It seems the only thing not open to negotiation, IS NEGOTIATION. Ted's way - or NO way.

I simply repeated what I understood Harlan to say, with not interpretation on it at all. But I will repsond to your hypothetical conclusions.

We don't know that there wasn't negotiation leading up to the offer. It apparently went on for some time, so I have to believe there was some give and take. There was with Green, and if I remember correctly also with Vinietari and/or Arrington last year.

We will never know the details of what did or did not happen, and we will all cast what "facts" there are in the best light to support our positions. It's human nature!

[woodbuck27]

It's good to have everything back to normal. The drama queen steps out, remembers he's important and then backtracks.



RG, after seeing this crap that Favre pulled, I can't help but have even more understanding for what Sherman tried to do. Favre has been subtly threatening the organization for a number of years and it began as soon as Sherm took over as GM. If I was Ted, I think I would have broke and just doen what Favre wanted. I don't think my convictions on running a team are nearly as strong as Thompsons though. If I was a part of building teams for 15 years and I knew what I wanted to do; I might say differently but damn, Thompson easily could have done just what Sherman did, failed and then been fired for trying.

Your arrogance is only surpassed by your ignorance.

Since when JustinHarrell is it against the rules in PRO sports to feel good or bad about a teams direction and not be able to make any comment on it or be deemed the drama queen ?

Since when has Brett Favre ever made a move in the media that wasn't about positive direction for our team or otherwise related to personal issues?

[retailguy]

We will never know the details of what did or did not happen, and we will all cast what "facts" there are in the best light to support our positions. It's human nature!

I think, in this case, they are all coming out, dirty laundry and all.

And, yes, we do put facts in "the light" of our positions, and you know, SOMETIMES we get them right!...

[Patler]

Since when has Brett Favre ever made a move in the media that wasn't about positive direction for our team or otherwise related to personal issues?

I think the frustrating part is how many there have been "in the media" the last few years. Favre hasn't let an off season pass quietly in a long time!

[Scott Campbell]

Since when has Brett Favre ever made a move in the media that wasn't about positive direction for our team or otherwise related to personal issues?

Since when has Brett not tried to cover up his own personal agenda behind the old "I just want to win" veil of goodguyedness?

Yeah, I know I made that word up.

[packinpatland]

Re: Favre: "I never wanted to be traded."

"Sometimes when I get frustrated, I let my emotions get the better of me," Favre said in the statement.

There, he admitted he was wrong. Maybe we all can still learn a lil from a old "washed up" QB.

Maybe I'm reading too much into this, but I'd bet he has already apologized to Ted for his comments.

For God's sake! Stop it! Let it go!

[retailguy]

Re: Favre: "I never wanted to be traded."

For God's sake! Stop it! Let it go!

But.... what will we talk about until September?

[Scott Campbell]

Re: Favre: "I never wanted to be traded."

For God's sake! Stop it! Let it go!

But.... what will we talk about until September?

There's always Shermy sleepin at the combine.

:P

[Brando19]

I get it. So those guys were the oranges?

Does that make Pickett, Woodson and Manual the apples?

I believe Manual is the prune.

[Scott Campbell]

I get it. So those guys were the oranges?

Does that make Pickett, Woodson and Manual the apples?

I believe Manual is the prune.

ROFL