TT's three year drafting scorecard.

[Scott Campbell]

Shermans very first draft pick : Javon Walker. A very productive player who immediately contributed.

Javon Walker 2002 23 receptions 319 yards 1 TD

Greg Jennings 2006 45 receptions 632 yards 3 TD's (with an injury)

[Patler]

What you really have here is a lesson in quanity over quality, I could see doing that in the 2005 draft when Sherman had depleted the depth but, the bottom line is we have seen little to no production from any of his Offensive picks except the linemen and 1/2 season of Jennings. I admit the Murphy pick was bad luck. I respect your post Patler but this is a case of stats that don't mean shit, all the playmakers on this team are still from the Wolf/Sherman era on Offense, or should I say were there ain't many left.

I agree.

If Colledge, Spitz, Moll, Rodgers, Jackson and Hall are starters six years from now, and Jones, Jennings and Clowney are among the top 4 receivers on the team, will it still have meant nothing?

Maybe we should wait to see if Jennings, Jackson, Jones, Clowney or Wynn can become playmakers before concluding that TT has not drafted any playmakers.

OR.........Maybe we should wait to see if Jennings, Jackson, Jones, Clowney or Wynn can become players before concluding that TT has drafted any playmakers.

I never concluded that he has drafted playmakers, just potential ones (note the phrase "wait to see if ....can become playmakers"). I have always advocated a position of letting them at least attend one training camp before reaching ANY CONCLUSION. However, many fans seem ready to dismsiss them before they even sign a contract.

[PackerBlues]

Shermans very first draft pick : Javon Walker. A very productive player who immediately contributed.

Javon Walker 2002 23 receptions 319 yards 1 TD

Greg Jennings 2006 45 receptions 632 yards 3 TD's (with an injury)

LOL.....I had a feeling that I would get busted using the word "immediately" with you guys.

I think you know what I am saying though, Walker was a guy that you "felt" would have a huge impact. We have gotten no use out of Rogers at all. No more use than we would have gotten from any of the other nearly 200 or so QB's who have come and gone while Favre just "keeps on tickin".

As for Jennings, I love the kid. I am hoping that he turns out to be the next Robert Brooks for the Packers. But if you will allow me to compare Jennings to Robert Brooks (please oh please, lol) then I think you could compare Walker to Sterling Sharpe.

[retailguy]

Shermans very first draft pick : Javon Walker. A very productive player who immediately contributed.

Javon Walker 2002 23 receptions 319 yards 1 TD

Greg Jennings 2006 45 receptions 632 yards 3 TD's (with an injury)

2002 receiving corps - Donald Driver/Terry Glenn

2006 receiving corps - Donald Driver/.........

think that had any effect? Jennings, by breathing, was more important in 2006 than Walker needed to be in 2002.

[PackerBlues]

Shermans very first draft pick : Javon Walker. A very productive player who immediately contributed.

Javon Walker 2002 23 receptions 319 yards 1 TD

Greg Jennings 2006 45 receptions 632 yards 3 TD's (with an injury)

2002 receiving corps - Donald Driver/Terry Glenn

2006 receiving corps - Donald Driver/.........

think that had any effect? Jennings, by breathing, was more important in 2006 than Walker needed to be in 2002.

OOOF! Thats gonna leave a mark! Great point.

[Patler]

Shermans very first draft pick : Javon Walker. A very productive player who immediately contributed.

Javon Walker 2002 23 receptions 319 yards 1 TD

Greg Jennings 2006 45 receptions 632 yards 3 TD's (with an injury)

2002 receiving corps - Donald Driver/Terry Glenn

2006 receiving corps - Donald Driver/.........

think that had any effect? Jennings, by breathing, was more important in 2006 than Walker needed to be in 2002.

The biggest problem with Walker in 2002 was not his stats per se, it was that he seemed to drop a pass for every two he caught. His drops were so bad and so frequent that he even apologized to Favre for them (Nice gesture on his part.) I did not have a good feeling at all about Walker in 2002, or even at the start of 2003. I wasn't down on him, but he certainly hadn't yet shown himself to be worthy of a 1st round pick. About mid-year in 2003 he seemed to begin settling in. Even so, at the start of 2004, Ferguson was penciled in as the starter, because no one was sure if Walker truly had arrived the second half of 2003, or if he just happened to put together some good games. He was still in the "is he or isn't he" category. It didn't take long in 2004 for him to convince everyone that he in fact had arrived.

[Scott Campbell]

Shermans very first draft pick : Javon Walker. A very productive player who immediately contributed.

Javon Walker 2002 23 receptions 319 yards 1 TD

Greg Jennings 2006 45 receptions 632 yards 3 TD's (with an injury)

2002 receiving corps - Donald Driver/Terry Glenn

2006 receiving corps - Donald Driver/.........

think that had any effect? Jennings, by breathing, was more important in 2006 than Walker needed to be in 2002.

Probably. Though my only point was that his contribution wasn't all that immediate. It was pretty marginal - regardless of the circumstances. He didn't start out the next year that hot either - when Terry Glenn was playing for Dallas.

I can't hold it against Jennings for stepping up and taking advantage of the opportunity he was given.

[Scott Campbell]

\I think you know what I am saying though, Walker was a guy that you "felt" would have a huge impact. We have gotten no use out of Rogers at all.

Well that's been by design. Rodgers was not drafted to contribute immediately. We all hoped he'd be sitting on the bench looking stupid while Brett plays out his career. And the longer he does that, the better.

With 3 and 4 receiver sets, you expect your 1st round WR's to see the field as rookies, and hope they make some kind of an impact.

[Patler]

Shermans very first draft pick : Javon Walker. A very productive player who immediately contributed.

Javon Walker 2002 23 receptions 319 yards 1 TD

Greg Jennings 2006 45 receptions 632 yards 3 TD's (with an injury)

2002 receiving corps - Donald Driver/Terry Glenn

2006 receiving corps - Donald Driver/.........

think that had any effect? Jennings, by breathing, was more important in 2006 than Walker needed to be in 2002.

OOOF! Thats gonna leave a mark! Great point.

Actually, it's misleading. Walker was drafted to be an immediate contributer.

The leading wide receivers in 2001 were Freeman, Schroeder and Bradford. All were gone in 2002, Schroeder and Bradford via free agency and Freeman released as no longer considered worth the money. Driver had been #4 on the depth chart. Coming into the 2002 season, Driver had played 3 seasons with only two starts. He had a total of 37 career receptions. No one was counting on him. Ferguson was a nonfactor coming out of 2001. Glenn was traded for, but was coming out of an injury filled season in 2001 in which he played off and on but started only 1 game and finished with 14 receptions.

When Walker was drafted, the Packers had no wide receivers that could be counted on at all.