Bears

[The Leaper]

Leaper, you speak the facts, but Mad spoke the pulse of what players think.

I still don't believe it.

The players do not view Green Bay as cheap IMO. To me, I would think the general lack of conviction toward "winning now" and the fact that Green Bay doesn't offer many of the perks other larger cities do is what actually is the biggest turn off to available NFL players at present.

Players know full well that Driver, Kampy, Barnett, and Harris all got paid recently. Who on the Bears has been paid recently? I just don't think there is any real evidence that players feel Green Bay is cheap. If Mad has some, I'd be glad to see it. I just hear much more regarding the lack of "city amenities" Green Bay offers...and you know the rebuilding process also scares guys away who are looking to win now.

Woodson got a huge payout last year...whether or not he performed. Fortunately, to his credit, he did.

Manual didn't get a huge payday because he wasn't a proven NFL starter.

I'm sorry...I just don't see it.

[the_idle_threat]

Best. Double post. Ever.

[BooHoo]

The Bears slide is good news for us.

[MadtownPacker]

I don't agree with that. We paid Kampy. We paid Barnett. We paid Harris. We paid Driver. Thompson also forked out pretty good coin in free agency for Woodson.

Thompson IS willing to fork out coin for guys he feels are reliable players on HIS team...with the caveat that it only happens on HIS schedule. The problem is that we don't have many players on our roster that are reliable players at this point. Quite a few weren't...which is why they weren't resigned this offseason.

If we had guys the caliber of some of these Bear players, I think Thompson would do what it took to keep the ones he felt were key pieces going forward.

Thompson and Green Bay aren't viewed as cheap...just overly conservative on taking risks.

You are right LL. Im not saying that TT is cheapo and taking care of your own certainly looks good but Im talking about what Tarlam said and that is perception.

TT had mega $$$ to spend this offseason and didn't even buy a loaf a bread. He ould have had players TE MCMichael and FB Griffith had he gave them a lil extra $$. IMO those kind of signings would have come cheap and looked good on his track record regardless of if they panned out or not. Throw in a moss trade with the 2007 draft and TT is the talk of the football world.

None of it happened and Im cool with that but all of those things could have happened and TT would have still had the same roster today plus the playes mentioned above. It doesnt show a commitment to failure but it doesnt show a commitment to winning now either.

As a fan I want to win now and later but Im guessing that current NFL players want to win now. Thats what I meant by rep.

[BEARMAN]

Yuk it up , you cheese heads. You all will eat these hateful words as this season rolls on ! Oh yeah, and farve is sooooooooooo happy in gb? Everything in gb is just peachy? When this season is done and in the book, Da BEARS will have won the SB and gb will be dead last(again) !
I can BEARly wait to see farve wriething in pain as the BEARS "D" eats him alive, and raw ! MMMMMMMmmmmmmmmmmm farve meat an cheese MMMMMMMMmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm GOOD !

[FritzDontBlitz]

Yuk it up , you cheese heads. You all will eat these hateful words as this season rolls on ! Oh yeah, and Favre is sooooooooooo happy in gb? Everything in gb is just peachy? When this season is done and in the book, Da BEARS will have won the SB and gb will be dead last(again) !
I can BEARly wait to see Favre wriething in pain as the BEARS "D" eats him alive, and raw ! MMMMMMMmmmmmmmmmmm Favre meat an cheese MMMMMMMMmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm GOOD !

nice revisionist history, bearma'am. the pack actually finished in 2nd place in the division, matching chicago's 5-1 conference record.

favre is used to being under the microscope. let's see how good the bears players are about being overscrutinized by the media...