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  • #31
    Originally posted by Bretsky
    Originally posted by Partial
    Originally posted by retailguy
    Originally posted by Partial
    They did better than you think. They started 3 rookies much of the year. What the heck did you expect? One was a converted tight end who became a fat boy and lacked muscle. I suspect they will be much more prepared to go this season. You are underrating the OL last year. They were decent. This year they will be your typical ron wolfe line that is good enough to win. aka solid but unspectacular.
    When did they do better than I think? Against Arizona? I vividly remember the New England, New York, and Minnesota (In Lambeau) games. The OL sucked all three of those games. Bubba's new nickname should be "max protect". Yes, I know they've said they have a plan to eliminate that, but, we'll see.

    What I expected is that they'd hold onto a known commodity at RB until it was PROVEN that the line is stabilized. Tauscher and Clifton were "rocks" last year too. Cliffys knees are bad. Well performed at "near pro-bowl" level last year and the line still sucked. What is DIFFERENT in 2007? Other than, Spitz and Colledge gained some muscle, and a bit of experience (that's a good thing), not much changed. You forget that, most DT's gained some muscle and another year of experience too.

    I'm not saying that the line will be as bad in 2007 as it was in 2006, however, I'm not thinking we're going to gain 1,400 yards on the ground in 2007 either. (Per your predictions).

    It's going to be a rough six weeks to start the year. I'll check back with you week 7...
    3 games... against premiere run defenses. Every offensive line sucked against those guys. You're living in a fantasy world. Most of the conferences DTs got worse. Illinois have a DT that tore his ACL in one of the final weeks of the season. No way is he even near 100%. Pat Williams is another year older on his legs. He will be worse. Shaun Rodgers is probably going to smoke and eat himself out of the league.

    I am not at all worried about the offensive line or the offense. We've got holes at TE, thats about it. Lost time.
    Pat Williams WORSE ?

    He's still relatively young

    Not worried about anything but TE ? That's it ?

    Gosh you make it sound like we are a contender; I sure hope you expect nothing less than a playoff victory if you truly think we are that good.
    Actually Espn says 34 years old

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    • #32
      Maybe he was thinking of Kevin?
      Originally posted by 3irty1
      This is museum quality stupidity.

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      • #33
        Originally posted by Zool
        Maybe he was thinking of Kevin?
        Until Pat actually slows down and starts sucking it'll be like you guys with Favre....we will all assume he'll be quite good.

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        • #34
          Originally posted by Rastak
          Originally posted by Zool
          Maybe he was thinking of Kevin?
          Until Pat actually slows down and starts sucking it'll be like you guys with Favre....we will all assume he'll be quite good.
          Not really. More QBs have played well late in their careers than DTs. The legs go before the arm. Not too many DTs have dominated much after they hit Pat's age. I wouldn't be surprised if he fell off this year. He had a career year last year.
          "There's a lot of interest in the draft. It's great. But quite frankly, most of the people that are commenting on it don't know anything about what they are talking about."--Ted Thompson

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          • #35
            Originally posted by HarveyWallbangers
            Originally posted by Rastak
            Originally posted by Zool
            Maybe he was thinking of Kevin?
            Until Pat actually slows down and starts sucking it'll be like you guys with Favre....we will all assume he'll be quite good.
            Not really. More QBs have played well late in their careers than DTs. The legs go before the arm. Not too many DTs have dominated much after they hit Pat's age. I wouldn't be surprised if he fell off this year. He had a career year last year.
            Yea, I understand what you are saying, but how many guys have a career year at 33? How many dominant QB's do you see at 38? None.....pretty similar if you think about it. I agree the potential for decline is there in both guys. It's just a bit easier to replace a DT.

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            • #36
              The only difference is Favre hasn't been dominant for a couple of years, and he won't be this year. Pat was dominant last year. Like I said, good chance he falls off this year. Of course, I thought he was the best DT in the NFL last year.
              "There's a lot of interest in the draft. It's great. But quite frankly, most of the people that are commenting on it don't know anything about what they are talking about."--Ted Thompson

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              • #37
                Originally posted by HarveyWallbangers
                The only difference is Favre hasn't been dominant for a couple of years, and he won't be this year. Pat was dominant last year. Like I said, good chance he falls off this year. Of course, I thought he was the best DT in the NFL last year.

                Maybe Harrell will break out and you guys will be crowing about him....I've heard lots of good things about him since the draft. Bring on the pre-season....

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by Zool
                  Maybe he was thinking of Kevin?
                  OH CRAP, you hit it on the head. I was thinking of Kevin. My bad
                  TERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWER

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                  • #39
                    I'm not necessarily thinking playoff victory but I think we're in the 8 most talented teams in the NFC.

                    IF MM uses his players in a manner to minimize weaknesses and focus on their positives, he could be very successful. Just like Billy B does over in NE.

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by Guiness
                      I'm hoping for the best for him as well. I do hope this 10lb will help him finish his runs with more 'pop'.

                      But Woody - improve on his 4.5yds/carry average? I hope you mean 'maintain that over the season'? If he improved on that over the course of a season, LT's looking in the rear view mirror!!!
                      ''But Woody - improve on his 4.5yds/carry average?'' fr. above

                      YUP !

                      That's an average I'll accept.
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