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  • Originally posted by outflow
    Did anyone see that chick sitting next to Chad Jackson?
    Missed it; she's trying to find her sugar daddy.
    TERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWER

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    • WHO?

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      • Well, if he ends up in GB at least we'd have someone to look at if the Pack is getting crushed.
        "The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."

        KYPack

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        • John McCargo???

          I had him as a second even a third

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          • WTF???? McCargo? Isn't Gabe Watson on the board yet? Wow, surprise here for Buffalo....Wonder what the Bears got in return...
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            • John McCargo
              DT, NC State

              War Room analysis
              Strengths: Is an explosive defensive lineman with good initial power. Has adequate speed and mobility. Changes directions smoothly. Shows good balance against the run and pass. Plays with good awareness, and has a nose for the ball.

              Weaknesses: Is undersized, and must add bulk. Doesn't bend knees well, and plays too high. Can be overwhelmed by big offensive tackles, and lacks the ability to hold his ground at the point of attack. Lacks a closing burst. Has some durability issues because of an \u201805 foot fracture that needed surgery.

              Bottom line: McCargo, a junior, is smart and works hard. He shouldn\u2019t be expected to dominate but rather be a solid one-gap tackle. He is quick and athletic and could go as high as the middle of the second round.

              Dan Pompei analysis
              Tough player who gets overlooked because he came out early and missed six games with a broken foot last season. Has the quickness and power to be disruptive. Changes directions and moves well laterally. Is effective vs. both run and pass. Has some pass-rush moves. Finds the ball. Is getting better each week and should continue to improve.
              No. 4 on Pompei's DT rankings

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              • Is Mike Sherman drafting for the Bills?

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                • Wow! Bills have the worst scouts! DT John McCargo? They should have sat where they were in the 2nd and still picked him up. I bet they sold the house too.

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                  • Originally posted by Fritz
                    In terms of Mangold, the real question is whether TT believes Well and/or White is a real NFL center. If he thinks so, then you pass on Mangold. Besides, won't he be available later in the second round anyway, when the Packers are picking again (okay, I'm pretending they sent JWalk packing). Centers don't often get drafted that high.

                    My guess is that TT trades down. He wants more picks and there will be a market for the 36th pick. You read it here first, folks.
                    Unless somebody falls then it's a good idea to trade down and add an extra third.

                    Mangold may be too good to pass up though; best C in the draft, and if he's the best C or OG TT may snatch him.
                    TERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWER

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                    • Looks like we should have been watching more NC State games this year.

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                      • Ok, well this is good. Keep pushing all these 1st rounders down the board...We're gonna end up with somethin good at this rate...
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                        • DeAngelo Williams
                          RB, Memphis

                          War Room analysis
                          Inside running: Is a short-but-powerful slasher who decisively hits the hole. Shows vision and patience but doesn't hesitate when he sees an open cutback lane. Only needs a crease at the line. Will burst through the hole and bounce runs to the outside. Shows quickness; doesn't hop or hesitate on cuts. Shows excellent body control and change-of-direction skills, and runs with his pads low to gain tremendous leverage. Will run over defenders in the hole, and can move the pile in short-yardage and goal-line situations. Lack of height allows him to get lost behind his linemen until he bursts into the second level. Grade: 8.1.

                          Outside running: Is a shifty runner with good -- but not great -- elusiveness. Uses balance, body control, quickness and/or stiff arms to beat defenders in the open field. Is tough to tackle and will drag defenders. Outruns linebackers and runs over defensive backs. Has a second gear but lacks breakaway speed. Uses blockers well to setup runs downfield. Grade: 8.1.

                          Blocking: Lack of height works against him in pass protection. Is a willing blocker and shows great pop and leverage at the point of attack. Often resorts to cutting defensive linemen and struggles to sustain blocks. Must improve blitz awareness. Grade: 7.5.

                          Hands/routes: Shows promise as a receiver. Creates mismatches against linebackers. Shows reliable hands, runs decent routes, recognizes coverage and will improve with experience. Snatches the pass at full speed and tucks it quickly to become a threat after the catch. Can catch downfield passes over his head. Grade: 7.9.

                          Durability: Has an injury history -- broken leg in '04, MCL tear in '03 and a knee sprain in '02. Did answer questions with an injury-free, workhorse-like 310 carries in senior season. That showed durability but it also could hurt his stock because he was overused, taking too many hits. Grade: 7.5.

                          Bottom line: Williams lacks ideal height but is a powerful back with enough bulk, strength, speed, quickness, instincts, vision and discipline to be a feature back. He appears to have great character and never complained about his inferior supporting cast in college. Williams won't fit every GM's feature-back model, but he will be drafted somewhere in the middle of the first round.

                          Dan Pompei analysis
                          Workhorse back is the all-time NCAA all-purpose yardage leader. Runs shiftily and plays off blocks exceptionally well. Has outstanding vision and patience. Stays on his feet. Can squeeze through cracks and is slippery between the tackles. Knows how to avoid big hits. Is not a burner; lacks exceptional burst. Does not run with much power. Doesn't have ideal height but has a thick build. Some consider him a third-down back. Ball security is a minor concern.
                          No. 4 on Pompei's RB rankings

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                          • Jacksonville is ready at 28...

                            rk ….. #.. ….. NFL ….. Name
                            1 ….. 2 ….. N.O. ….. Reggie Bush RB
                            2 ….. 1 ….. Hou ….. Mario Williams DE
                            3 ….. 4 ….. NYJ ….. D'Brickashaw Ferguson OT
                            4 ….. 10 ….. AZ ….. Matt Leinart QB
                            5 ….. 5 ….. GB ….. AJ Hawk OLB
                            6 ….. 6 ….. SF ….. Vernon Davis TE
                            7 ….. 3 ….. Ten ….. Vincent Young QB
                            8 ….. 7 ….. Oak ….. Michael Huff CB
                            9 ….. 14 ….. Phi ….. Brodrick Bunkley DT
                            10 ….. 12 ….. Bal ….. Haloti Ngata DT
                            11 ….. 11 ….. Den ….. Jay Cutler QB
                            12 ….. ---- ….. ---- ….. Winston Justice OT
                            13 ….. 13 ….. Cle ….. Kamerion Wimbley DE
                            14 ….. 9 ….. Det ….. Ernie Sims OLB
                            15 ….. ---- ….. ---- ….. Chad Jackson WR
                            16 ….. 25 ….. Pit ….. Santonio Holmes WR
                            17 ….. 17 ….. Min ….. Chad Greenway OLB
                            18 ….. ---- ….. ---- ….. Jimmy Williams CB
                            19 ….. 27 ….. Car ….. Deangelo Williams RB
                            20 ….. 8 ….. Buf ….. Donte Whitner S
                            21 ….. 24 ….. Cin ….. Johnathan Joseph CB
                            22 ….. 22 ….. SF ….. Manny Lawson DE
                            23 ….. 19 ….. SD ….. Antonio Cromartie CB
                            24 ….. 21 ….. NE ….. Laurence Maroney RB
                            25 ….. ---- ….. ---- ….. Nick Mangold OC
                            26 ….. 15 ….. Stl ….. Tye Hill CB
                            27 ….. 16 ….. Mia ….. Jason Allen S
                            28 ….. ---- ….. ---- ….. Ashton Youboty CB
                            29 ….. ---- ….. ---- ….. LenDale White RB
                            30 ….. 18 ….. Dal ….. Bobby Carpenter OLB
                            31 ….. ---- ….. ---- ….. Sinorice Moss WR
                            32 ….. ---- ….. ---- ….. Kelly Jennings CB
                            33 ….. ---- ….. ---- ….. Mathias Kiwanuka DE
                            34 ….. ---- ….. ---- ….. Marcus McNeill OT
                            35 ….. ---- ….. ---- ….. Marcedes Lewis TE
                            36 ….. ---- ….. ---- ….. Richard Marshall CB
                            37 ….. ---- ….. ---- ….. Darryl Tapp DE
                            38 ….. ---- ….. ---- ….. Eric Winston OT
                            39 ….. ---- ….. ---- ….. Leonard Pope TE
                            40 ….. 20 ….. KC ….. Tamba Hali DE
                            41 ….. ---- ….. ---- ….. Gabriel Watson DT
                            42 ….. ---- ….. ---- ….. DeMeco Ryans OLB
                            43 ….. ---- ….. ---- ….. Claude Wroten DT
                            44 ….. 23 ….. TB ….. Davin Joseph OG
                            45 ….. ---- ….. ---- ….. Demetrius Williams WR
                            46 ….. ---- ….. ---- ….. D'Qwell Jackson ILB
                            47 ….. ---- ….. ---- ….. Joseph Addai RB
                            48 ….. ---- ….. ---- ….. Anthony Fasano TE
                            49 ….. ---- ….. ---- ….. Rocky McIntosh OLB
                            50 ….. ---- ….. ---- ….. Max Jean-Gilles OG
                            52 ….. ---- ….. ---- ….. Rodrique Wright DT
                            53 ….. ---- ….. ---- ….. Thomas Howard OLB
                            54 ….. ---- ….. ---- ….. Daniel Bullocks S
                            55 ….. ---- ….. ---- ….. Cedric Griffin CB
                            56 ….. ---- ….. ---- ….. Kellen Clemens QB
                            57 ….. ---- ….. ---- ….. Darnell Bing S
                            58 ….. ---- ….. ---- ….. Maurice Stovall WR
                            59 ….. ---- ….. ---- ….. Abdul Hodge ILB
                            60 ….. ---- ….. ---- ….. Deuce Lutui OG
                            61 ….. ---- ….. ---- ….. Ko Simpson S
                            62 ….. ---- ….. ---- ….. Andrew Whitworth OT
                            63 ….. 26 ….. Buf ….. John McCargo DT
                            more freedom, less government. Go Sarah!

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                            • Buh Bye Williams...
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                              • Good pick!

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