2006 Live DRAFT Thread

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Johnny Jolly

Weaknesses:
Does not have great speed or quickness...Is not very mobile and lacks range...Is not much of a pass rusher...Struggles to find the ball...Needs to stay low and play with better leverage...Might not have a whole lot of upside for the next level.

Ok so why pick the guy? I'm thinking whoever wrote this up wouldn't have.

[Scott Campbell]

SUNDAY, April 30, 2006, 2:06 p.m.

By Cliff Christl
Clements on Martin

Tom Clements, quarterbacks coach of the Packers, said he liked Ingle Martin's size (6-2, 224), athletic ability, mechanics, arm strength and anticipation. "He has a lot of tools to work with," said Clements.

Clements also said Martin's arm proved to be one of the stronger ones at the combine workouts, where it was checked by a radar gun.

"I think he has a strong enough arm to make all the throws that are required of him," said Clements.

[CyclonePackFan]

Johnny Jolly
Height: 6-3
Weight: 318
40 Speed: 5.44*
Position: Defensive Tackle
College: Texas A&M

SUMMARY

Jolly was a tough player to fairly evaluate because despite his natural tools, he does not finish and make plays that he gets close enough to on a regular basis. He does a good job of bending his knees and playing with leverage, which allows him to hold his ground at the point of attack on runs at him, but he does not shed the blocker quickly enough to make the play and too often he is tied up right as the ball carrier runs right by him. He does a good job of getting off the ball and into the backfield to disrupt plays, but he does not finish and make the play often enough. Overall, Jolly has all the physical tools to be a good starting defensive tackle in the NFL, for a 3-4 or 4-3 defense, but will need to use his hands better to take on and shed blockers. Additionally, he will need to play with that aggressive, attacking style much more in order to produce at the level he is physically capable of. I believe that Jolly will be drafted later than he is evaluated here, but given a season or two as a backup (possibly even on the practice squad), he can become a good backup defensive tackle who can do a solid job of spot starting when needed.

STRONG POINTS

Jolly is a good athlete with the quick feet, size and strength that are ideal for a strong defensive tackle at the point of attack. He does a good job of staying focused to burst off the ball at the snap and can shoot gaps to get into the backfield consistently. His quickness off the ball also combine with his strength to let him get on top of the offensive line fast and he can jolt his man backwards to disrupt the quarterback. His quickness, hand use and instincts help him to get started towards the ball quickly on inside runs, where he can keep the blocker on his shoulder and can chase plays down between the offensive tackles.

WEAKNESSES

Despite good size and measureables, Jolly looks soft and fleshy on film, which is cause for concern about his work ethic off the field. He has the ability to be a productive player vs. the run and the pass, but more often than not, he is around and disrupting the play without actually making the play. He does not shed blocks well once they get a hold of him -- runners go right by him when he is tied up too often. He does not have a closing burst to finish plays he should -- if the play is outside the tackles, he lacks the ability to get there in time to make the tackle.

[Tarlam!]

tarlam beat me to it

Oh BABY!

[Tarlam!]

From his crique, ya gotta think Jim Bates coulda turned this guy into a wrecking machine...

[CyclonePackFan]

With pick #185 we select:

Tyrone Culver DB Fresno St.

[FritzDontBlitz]

tyrone culver db fresno state at 185

[Tarlam!]

Tyrone Culver
Height: 6-1 | Weight: 195 | 40-Time: 4.56

Official Bio

Strengths:
Pretty good athlete...Physical and will help versus the run...A playmaker who has a knack for coming through in the clutch...Very smart both on and off the field...A hard worker with premier intangibles...A very consistent and reliable performer.

Weaknesses:
Does not have great timed speed...Instincts are below average...Is built more like a cornerback...Does not have fluid hips and is slow out of his breaks...Can be too conservative at times...Range is a bit limited...Might not have a very big upside.

Notes:
Wants to go to dental school...Probably doesn't have all the physical tools and measurables you look for in a prospect...The type who does everything well but nothing great...Might never be a star but could be a solid backup at the pro level.

[Deputy Nutz]

Anyone have anything on this guy?

[Homer Jay]

Back to rivals.com. Frank Coyle says in this talented tackle class he will probably slide into the second day where he will be a definite steal, and is capable of being a quality starter. Johnny Jolly

[Fosco33]

With pick #185 we select:

Tyrone Culver DB Fresno St.

Culver has a tremendous football IQ. He is an intelligent player and is great in run support. However, he lacks speed and trailed on too many plays. He has good size, but will probably be nothing more than a special teams player at the next level.

[Deputy Nutz]

The Packers are once again going to have a dozen picks in the draft.

[MadtownPacker]

Where are we on the draft? My wife took the tv so I could have the computer.

You will be hearing about this soon. EVEN Bretsky got the TV all weekend!

[Fosco33]

Tyrone Culver | Safety | Fresno State | 6'1" - 200 lbs.

OVERVIEW
A key contributor while leading the secondary the last two years, the four-time Academic All-Western Athletic Conference has the quickness needed to cover any receiver on deep routes. He called the secondary adjustments for the team and was labeled a "coach on the field" by the staff because of his field smarts and ball anticipation ability.

Culver was selected to the Los Angeles Times All-Star team as a senior at Palmdale High School. He added Southern Section Scholar-Athlete, team MVP and League Defensive Player of the Year honors. He also earned first-team All-Golden League and All-CIF honors, in addition to being a member of the Los Angeles Daily News All-Star team.

After redshirting in 2001 at Fresno State, Tyrone appeared in twelve games as a reserve free safety in 2002. He finished that year with 24 tackles (14 solos) and intercepted two passes for 31 yards in returns. He was an Academic All-Western Athletic Conference choice while seeing action in fourteen games as a reserve in 2003. He capped the year with 45 tackles (32 solos), a sack and two stops for losses.

Culver took over free safety duties in 2004, again earning Academic All-WAC honors. He totaled 65 tackles (32 solos) with a sack, two stops behind the line of scrimmage and a 37-yard interception return. Tyrone was named first-team All-WAC as a senior. He collected 44 tackles (23 solos) with two sacks, as he intercepted two passes, deflected seven others and recovered a fumble that he advanced for a touchdown.

In 51 games at Fresno State, Culver started 26 times. He recorded 178 tackles (101 solos) with four sacks for minus 19 yards and six stops for losses of 22 yards. He recovered three fumbles, returning one 30 yards for a touchdown. He had two forced fumbles and deflected fourteen passes. He also gained 72 yards on five interception returns.

CAREER NOTES
Produced 109 of his career 178 tackles during his last two seasons with the Bulldogs... Was a four-time Academic All-Western Athletic Conference choice.

2005 SEASON
All-Western Athletic Conference first-team and Academic All-WAC choice...Started all year at free safety, recording 44 tackles (23 solos) with two sacks for minus 10 yards and a pair of forced fumbles...Recovered a fumble that he advanced 30 yards for a touchdown and gained 4 yards on two interceptions...Also deflected seven passes.

2004 SEASON
Academic All-WAC choice...Took over free safety duties, ranking second on the team with a career-high 65 tackles (32 solos), including a 4-yard sack and two stops for losses of 5 yards...Recovered a fumble and deflected five passes...Returned an interception 37 yards.

2003 SEASON
Academic All-WAC pick...Played in fourteen games, starting at free safety vs. Tennessee... Recorded 45 tackles (32 solos) with a 5-yard sack and two stops for losses of 7 yards... Recovered a fumble and deflected one pass.

2002 SEASON
Academic All-WAC pick...Appeared in twelve games as a reserve free safety, finishing with 24 tackles (14 solos), two interceptions for 31 yards in returns and a pass deflection...Had a 31-yard interception return vs. Hawaii and another pass theft in the Louisiana Tech game.

2001 SEASON
Redshirted as a freshman.

CAMPUS AGILITY TESTS
4.63 in the 40-yard dash...320-pound bench press...Bench presses 225 pounds 23 times... 445-pound squat...324-pound power clean...308-pound hang clean...39.5-inch vertical jump...10'9" broad jump...4.35 20-yard shuttle...7.25 three-cone drill...32 _-inch arm length...9-inch hands...Right-handed.

HIGH SCHOOL
Attended Palmdale (Cal.) High School, playing football for head coach Jeff Williams... Selected to the Los Angeles Times All-Star team as a senior...Added Southern Section Scholar-Athlete, team MVP and League Defensive Player of the Year honors...Also earned first-team All-Golden League and All-CIF honors, in addition to being a member of the Los Angeles Daily News All-Star team.

PERSONAL
Health Science major...Son of Jackie and Lanell Culver...Born 7/06/83...Resides in Palmdale, California.

[CyclonePackFan]

It's so aggrivating to look at these 2nd day picks because everyone beyond probably the 10th pick in the 4th round is nothing but a project.

The one constant I'm seeing is that TT is taking athletes who all for the most part are considered to be intelligent. I've seen "good at everything not great at anything" several times now.