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    Posted June 2, 2007

    Fullback projects compete for time

    By Tom Pelissero
    tpelisse@greenbaypressgazette.com

    If Justin Griffith and Terrelle Smith hadn't spurned the Green Bay Packers' overtures in free agency, Ryan Powdrell wouldn't have been sitting at his locker Thursday afternoon, speaking about competing for a starting job.

    Brandon Miree started three games last season and was the only fullback left on the roster after the team cut veteran William Henderson in March. Griffith and Smith visited Green Bay but signed elsewhere, so the Packers filled the roster by drafting Korey Hall and signing undrafted rookies Powdrell and Corey White.

    Eighteen months ago, none of those three played fullback.

    That the Packers settled for projects to compete with Miree may indicate just how much more tight ends will shift into the backfield this season, the offense's second running a zone-blocking scheme.

    The fullback job exists, though, and Miree isn't necessarily guaranteed the role. In Thursday's OTA practice, Miree got the first snap in which the offense used a fullback, while Powdrell opened the second team period with the starters.

    "You have to be able to run and make cuts and adjust on the run once the ball is snapped," Powdrell said of the Packers' blocking scheme, calling it "nearly identical" to the one in which he played after moving from linebacker to fullback as a senior at Southern California.

    "Instead of just running straight downhill and blocking somebody, you've got to be able to read it as you go, (then) get back underneath."

    Henderson was too big and slow to fit in the scheme then-offensive coordinator Jeff Jagodzinski installed last season. Miree, who began the season on the practice squad, probably would have finished as the starter if not for a midseason elbow injury.

    At 5-foot-11 and a bulked-up 243 pounds, Miree has the right combination of size and quickness to fit in a zone scheme he also studied for two seasons — one on injured reserve, one on the practice squad — with the Denver Broncos. But he's had trouble staying healthy and has played in only 10 NFL games, last year.

    The Packers thought enough of Hall, a linebacker at Boise State, to draft him in the sixth round. Like Powdrell, he will try to lean on his defensive background to identify opposing fronts and solidify protection.

    White is listed as a fullback but has practiced mostly at halfback, the position he played in a shotgun offense at Alabama-Birmingham. If anything, he's more likely to be a combo back who can fill in as a blocker in a pinch.

    "Everything moves so fast, and you've got to be crisp to get up in that hole and make that block," White said. "Your decision is important for the running back so he can make his move."

    That's especially true now that the Packers' halfback for the past seven seasons, Ahman Green, is a Houston Texan. Of the nine fullbacks and tight ends on the roster, four or five capable blockers must emerge to give Vernand Morency and Brandon Jackson room to work.

    Coach Mike McCarthy this week confirmed Miree is the favorite but stopped short of calling him a starter.

    "We have some real young, willing players that also have special-teams ability," McCarthy said, "so that will be a fun battle to watch."

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    On-the-job training

    The three rookies competing with Brandon Miree for action at fullback have little experience at the position.

    Korey Hall
    6-0, 236 Boise State

    Four-year starter at linebacker hasn't played offense since high school.

    Ryan Powdrell
    5-11, 254 Southern Cal

    Switched to fullback before 2006 spring practice after two seasons as a backup linebacker.

    Corey White
    6-1, 239 Alabama-Birmingham

    Coaches rarely asked the school's No. 4 all-time rusher to play fullback.
    ** Since 2006 3 X Pro Pickem' Champion; 4 X Runner-Up and 3 X 3rd place.
    ** To download Jesus Loves Me ring tones, you'll need a cell phone mame
    ** If God doesn't fish, play poker or pull for " the Packers ", exactly what does HE do with his buds?
    ** Rather than love, money or fame - give me TRUTH: Henry D. Thoreau

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    • #3
      Fills you with confidence, doesn't it???
      wist

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      • #4
        Originally posted by wist43
        Fills you with confidence, doesn't it???
        Soon the charade will end.
        ** Since 2006 3 X Pro Pickem' Champion; 4 X Runner-Up and 3 X 3rd place.
        ** To download Jesus Loves Me ring tones, you'll need a cell phone mame
        ** If God doesn't fish, play poker or pull for " the Packers ", exactly what does HE do with his buds?
        ** Rather than love, money or fame - give me TRUTH: Henry D. Thoreau

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        • #5
          They're fullbacks, not quarterbacks. We'll be fine.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by wist43
            Fills you with confidence, doesn't it???
            Confidence is overrated. I love the intrigue.
            I can't run no more with that lawless crowd
            While the killers in high places say their prayers out loud
            But they've summoned, they've summoned up a thundercloud
            They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen

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            • #7
              Originally posted by wist43
              Fills you with confidence, doesn't it???
              Hopefully they can block. Max Protect will be in full force again this year....

              If they can't block? Well... And that's about all I got to say about that.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by woodbuck27
                Originally posted by wist43
                Fills you with confidence, doesn't it???
                Soon the charade will end.

                Many are giving the Snapper another free pass; it's going to be a while
                TERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWER

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                • #9
                  Yet another GREAT reason to let William Henderson go because he was making the vet minimum. Nice job TT...
                  "Once the people find they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the Republic.”
                  – Benjamin Franklin

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                  • #10
                    It's weird...of all the positions in professional football, including special teams gunner, the fullback position has become the least important in the past twenty years. Even here in Detroit They've got several no-names, one of which, Sean McHugh, was on the Packers' practice squad a few years ago. The papers are saying the Lions don't even have a true fullback spot; it's more of an H-back.

                    So it's not just Ted who is using converted third string linebackers to come in and try out for fullback, or whatever passes for that position these days.

                    I'm wondering when teams will drift back to using fullbacks to block AND carry the ball. It would be a new wrinkle.
                    "The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."

                    KYPack

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Merlin
                      Yet another GREAT reason to let William Henderson go because he was making the vet minimum. Nice job TT...
                      No way was Hendo gonna make the final 53. TT cut him loose to theoretically hire on with some other outfit, rather than have him waste his time in GB.

                      It was the honorable thing to do.

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                      • #12
                        Fritz, you hit it on the head in my opinion. With the swing to "two" back offenses as evidenced by NE, Indy, Chicago, etc. why not have a talented halfback and a legit fullback instead? If you're distributing the ball between the two then you're saving the wear and tear on your halfback and yet constantly have a proven blocker on the field for busting up the MLB or adding to the pass protection.

                        Copy cat league is like the flow of the ocean with regard to schemes.

                        I'd rather have one stud halfback and then a low cost gamer of a fullback than two high priced halfbacks who are discontented that the other is stealing carries from them.
                        60% of the time it works every time.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Tarlam!
                          Originally posted by Merlin
                          Yet another GREAT reason to let William Henderson go because he was making the vet minimum. Nice job TT...
                          No way was Hendo gonna make the final 53. TT cut him loose to theoretically hire on with some other outfit, rather than have him waste his time in GB.

                          It was the honorable thing to do.
                          I respectfully disagree. Cutting a player because he isn't yours and then attributing it to that is cowardly. When you only have one true fullback in camp and the rest are cast offs, rookies and never wases, you can't even argue rationally that Henderson would not only beat them out but make the final roster.
                          "Once the people find they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the Republic.”
                          – Benjamin Franklin

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                          • #14
                            Merlin, it is my true belief that Hendo was very fortunate to make last year's roster

                            He was replaced as the starter by a younger, more suitable player at his position.

                            I have also read accounts (sorry, I have no so) that say Hendo did not fit the new scheme.

                            The guy was also quite worn, from an age point of view. I do think he was a great locker room guy and maybe, he should have been given a job.

                            But why you woulkd want to take valuable training reps away from guys that actually have a chance of making the team is beyond me.

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                            • #15
                              Henderson retained the starting position merely as a matter of respect from the coaching staff. Miree saw significantly more snaps early in the year when both were healthy, even though Henderson technically started the game at FB.

                              Henderson no longer possessed the speed to block effectively in the new zone blocking scheme, and that lack of speed also negatively impacted his last remaining strength as a pass receiver as well.

                              Even at the vet minimum, he remained relatively costly due to his length of service in the league.

                              It was time to let Henderson go. He provides ABSOLUTELY NO BENEFIT WHATSOEVER going forward. Even if he would be slightly better than some of the young kids, there is no point leaving him on the roster to stunt their development at this point.
                              My signature has NUDITY in it...whatcha gonna do?

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