Offseason update: Minnesota Vikings

[HarveyWallbangers]

The Bears are clearly better than the Vikings at WR. Both Muhammad and Berrian are markedly better than anybody on Minnesota.

At TE, I'd take Desmond Clark (productive last year) and Greg Olsen over Shiancoe and Kleinsasser.

Huge advantage over Minnesota.

I'd easily take Minnesota's RB. For this year, I'd take Grossman over Jackson/Bollinger. I'd take the Bears OL over the Vikings overhyped OL. I'd take the Bears LB and DBs also. The Bears have a Pro Bowl caliber K, P, and return man. No comparison on special teams. The one positon besides RB that I might give the edge to the Vikings is DL. Might. Only because of the uncertainty over the DTs for the Bears. The Vikings have the best pair of DTs in the NFC. They could have a stellar DL group--if Erasmus stays healthy and they get more from Udeze (those are still big ifs).

I don't see it at all. Talent-wise, the Bears are still the class of the division. Minnesota's talent is more comparable to the Packers than the Bears. Minnesota has a handful of big name, blue chippers. Some are worthy of the hype. Some are not. Overall, the talent is pretty average.

[oregonpackfan]

I was hoping to hear news that the Vikings were thinking of moving to Los Angeles. Get them out of the NFC-North!

I never realized you were so terrified of them!

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Rastak,

As a Packer fan, I am hardly terrrified of the Vikings(The Packers did beat them twice last year, remember?)

I just don't like the Vikings, period.

Out of curiosity, did one of them F*** your wife or something? Disliking some team and hoping they move are different things.

We all have our teams to hate but I never actually hope they move or fold.


Think about it, it's a friggen game. There are LOTS of Packer fans in the world, would I really want them all to have broken hearts becasue the team folded or moved? NO. Why would you want that? I ask that question because I'm really curious......

Jumping off the deep end, are we Rastak? Take a deep breath and keep repeating, "Mike Tice is no longer the Vikings' coach, Mike Tice is..."

[Rastak]

I was hoping to hear news that the Vikings were thinking of moving to Los Angeles. Get them out of the NFC-North!

I never realized you were so terrified of them!

.

Rastak,

As a Packer fan, I am hardly terrrified of the Vikings(The Packers did beat them twice last year, remember?)

I just don't like the Vikings, period.

Out of curiosity, did one of them F*** your wife or something? Disliking some team and hoping they move are different things.

We all have our teams to hate but I never actually hope they move or fold.


Think about it, it's a friggen game. There are LOTS of Packer fans in the world, would I really want them all to have broken hearts becasue the team folded or moved? NO. Why would you want that? I ask that question because I'm really curious......

Jumping off the deep end, are we Rastak? Take a deep breath and keep repeating, "Mike Tice is no longer the Vikings' coach, Mike Tice is..."

I'm all for hating on teams, but fans?

[oregonpackfan]

I was hoping to hear news that the Vikings were thinking of moving to Los Angeles. Get them out of the NFC-North!

I never realized you were so terrified of them!

.

Rastak,

As a Packer fan, I am hardly terrrified of the Vikings(The Packers did beat them twice last year, remember?)

I just don't like the Vikings, period.

Out of curiosity, did one of them F*** your wife or something? Disliking some team and hoping they move are different things.

We all have our teams to hate but I never actually hope they move or fold.


Think about it, it's a friggen game. There are LOTS of Packer fans in the world, would I really want them all to have broken hearts becasue the team folded or moved? NO. Why would you want that? I ask that question because I'm really curious......

Jumping off the deep end, are we Rastak? Take a deep breath and keep repeating, "Mike Tice is no longer the Vikings' coach, Mike Tice is..."

I'm all for hating on teams, but fans?

Rastak,

I was unable to send you a personal message, so hear me out.

On second thought, bringing in my family member with "Did the Vikings f---your wife" is crosses the line of human decency. Please don't respond with "First amendment--freedom of speech--I can say anything I want" type of crap. Even the first amendment has limitations, i.e. slander.

All my initial statement was a half-joking move the Vikings out of town. You brought in my family members. Then you accuse me of attacking Viking fans, in general. I did not intend that.

I hope we can keep this discussion civil. If you cannot, please go to some other forum.

Oregonpackfan

[Rastak]

I was hoping to hear news that the Vikings were thinking of moving to Los Angeles. Get them out of the NFC-North!

I never realized you were so terrified of them!

.

Rastak,

As a Packer fan, I am hardly terrrified of the Vikings(The Packers did beat them twice last year, remember?)

I just don't like the Vikings, period.

Out of curiosity, did one of them F*** your wife or something? Disliking some team and hoping they move are different things.

We all have our teams to hate but I never actually hope they move or fold.


Think about it, it's a friggen game. There are LOTS of Packer fans in the world, would I really want them all to have broken hearts becasue the team folded or moved? NO. Why would you want that? I ask that question because I'm really curious......

Jumping off the deep end, are we Rastak? Take a deep breath and keep repeating, "Mike Tice is no longer the Vikings' coach, Mike Tice is..."

I'm all for hating on teams, but fans?

Rastak,

I was unable to send you a personal message, so hear me out.

On second thought, bringing in my family member with "Did the Vikings f---your wife" is crosses the line of human decency. Please don't respond with "First amendment--freedom of speech--I can say anything I want" type of crap. Even the first amendment has limitations, i.e. slander.

All my initial statement was a half-joking move the Vikings out of town. You brought in my family members. Then you accuse me of attacking Viking fans, in general. I did not intend that.

I hope we can keep this discussion civil. If you cannot, please go to some other forum.

Oregonpackfan

Civil it shall be. I was merely asking what would provoke a guy to hope many thousands of people would be heartbroken. What would motivate that? Merely speculation on my part. I see it was off base, so please accept my apology. Perhaps you could elaborate on what would motivate you to wish such a thing?

[oregonpackfan]

Thank you, Rastak. Apology accepted.

I did not intend to wish heartbreak on any, or thousands of Viking fans. IMO, that is your misinterpretation of my message.

OPF

[HarveyWallbangers]

I think Oregon started with a low blow, and then Rastak came back to bite his year off, Tyson-style.

[Rastak]

Thank you, Rastak. Apology accepted.

I did not intend to wish heartbreak on any, or thousands of Viking fans. IMO, that is your misinterpretation of my message.

OPF

No problem Oregon.....check your private messages......


Yea Harv, I went Tyson.....does that mean I'm insane?

[Bretsky]

Some Packer football news besided MM is closing more practices would sure be pretty dam cool !!

[HarveyWallbangers]

JSO blows goat since Christl left. Apparently, it caught them by surprise and most of their other writers are on vacation. Their search for a replacement is the longest in history. I sent them an email saying they should just hire Tom Pelissaro. I also told them that they blow goat.

[Rastak]

JSO blows goat since Christl left. Apparently, it caught them by surprise and most of their other writers are on vacation. Their search for a replacement is the longest in history. I sent them an email saying they should just hire Tom Pelissaro. I also told them that they blow goat.

It's a bit different than the past isn't it, haven't they usually been all over the Pack coverage even in the offseason? Maybe it's budget related.....

[Bretsky]

JSO blows goat since Christl left. Apparently, it caught them by surprise and most of their other writers are on vacation. Their search for a replacement is the longest in history. I sent them an email saying they should just hire Tom Pelissaro. I also told them that they blow goat.

Maybe I should put my English Major to work

Then again, you'd send me plenty of emails saying I blow goats

[MJZiggy]

JSO blows goat since Christl left. Apparently, it caught them by surprise and most of their other writers are on vacation. Their search for a replacement is the longest in history. I sent them an email saying they should just hire Tom Pelissaro. I also told them that they blow goat.

Well, the dude was older than dirt, how could they not know he'd retire eventually. Telling them they blow goat will also help the cred of your e-mail immensely...I wonder if this is a punishment for the media having pissed M3 off last year.

[Rastak]

JSO blows goat since Christl left. Apparently, it caught them by surprise and most of their other writers are on vacation. Their search for a replacement is the longest in history. I sent them an email saying they should just hire Tom Pelissaro. I also told them that they blow goat.

Maybe I should put my English Major to work

Then again, you'd send me plenty of emails saying I blow goats

I just did a search on JSO and the Green Bay Gazette and there were no stories of Bretsky blowing goats.....

[HarveyWallbangers]

Maybe I should put my English Major to work

Then again, you'd send me plenty of emails saying I blow goats

I didn't know you could use your English Major to critique my slang.

Ziggy, I didn't actually tell them they blow goat. It was what I thought though. I was just embellishing my story.