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if there was a selectiopn for beyond thrilled, i'd pick that."I would love to have a guy that always gets the key hit, a pitcher that always makes his best pitch and a manager that can always make the right decision. The problem is getting him to put down his beer and come out of the stands and do those things." - Danny Murraugh
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He wasn't worth a 5, Urlacher was taken what? 9th and Lewis was taken a 6th? He doesn't have MLB qualities. He is Barnett minus the pass coverage skills. He will be where Barnett is in now in 3 years."Once the people find they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the Republic.”
– Benjamin Franklin
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Hawk is so far different from Barnett. You obviously don't have a clue .Originally posted by MerlinWizard222Mistake, we have the same linbacker in Barnett. Needed a MLB."I would love to have a guy that always gets the key hit, a pitcher that always makes his best pitch and a manager that can always make the right decision. The problem is getting him to put down his beer and come out of the stands and do those things." - Danny Murraugh
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Yeah okay if you say so. He can't blow up guards, his game is horisontal and he over pursues. Sound familiar? It should, that was the analysis on Barnett when he was picked. He may be faster but he isn't quicker then Barnett and that is a fact. Apparently you haven't watched the guy play. They showed all of his sacks, not one, I repeat not one was talking on a lineman, always followed someone through a hole or came from the outside. Sound familiar? It should, Barnett was the same type of college player. He isn't Urlacher (9th) or Lewis (5th). THAT is a fact. He may be a first rounder but not a top 5 or even a top 10.Originally posted by ND72Hawk is so far different from Barnett. You obviously don't have a clue .Originally posted by MerlinWizard222Mistake, we have the same linbacker in Barnett. Needed a MLB."Once the people find they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the Republic.”
– Benjamin Franklin
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Originally posted by NickCollinsHey ND and Nutz..I don't know if you caught it on the other thread but in hindsight I think you guys were right on with Hawk.
Maybe next year I can earn my way as a scout on your draft articals...I'd like to scout safteys and DB's if I had the chance.
I saw that Nick; glad you are on the Hawk Wagon.
BTERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWER
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Who can blow up a good guard ? Certainly not Urlacher or Lewis; LB's need some protection. Regarding all of his sacks being uncontested, that is crap. I've watched Hawk for four years and he beat guards. And he beat guards at the point of attack too. Did you see his play at the goal line against Notre Dame in the Bowl game ? His numbers and mesaurables are very similar to Urlachers; that is a FACT. It is no fact that he is worse or better than Urlacher.Originally posted by MerlinWizard222Yeah okay if you say so. He can't blow up guards, his game is horisontal and he over pursues. Sound familiar? It should, that was the analysis on Barnett when he was picked. He may be faster but he isn't quicker then Barnett and that is a fact. Apparently you haven't watched the guy play. They showed all of his sacks, not one, I repeat not one was talking on a lineman, always followed someone through a hole or came from the outside. Sound familiar? It should, Barnett was the same type of college player. He isn't Urlacher (9th) or Lewis (5th). THAT is a fact. He may be a first rounder but not a top 5 or even a top 10.Originally posted by ND72Hawk is so far different from Barnett. You obviously don't have a clue .Originally posted by MerlinWizard222Mistake, we have the same linbacker in Barnett. Needed a MLB.
You would NOT HAVE ONE GM in the NFL saying Hawk was not a top 10 player in this draft; that's just a silly statement.TERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWER
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I have never really seen Hawk play (last Ohio St game I saw was championship when MCGahee got his knee rearranged) but something that bothers me about Barnett is that he seems to lack instinct at times. He's good but he's not a playmaker, a difference maker. He has had a couple of INTs but I have never seen him level anyone like Collins did as a safety last season. I hope Hawk is the punishing type and seriously considers hurting the opposing QBs and RBs.Originally posted by MerlinWizard222Yeah okay if you say so. He can't blow up guards, his game is horisontal and he over pursues. Sound familiar? It should, that was the analysis on Barnett when he was picked. He may be faster but he isn't quicker then Barnett and that is a fact. Apparently you haven't watched the guy play. They showed all of his sacks, not one, I repeat not one was talking on a lineman, always followed someone through a hole or came from the outside. Sound familiar? It should, Barnett was the same type of college player. He isn't Urlacher (9th) or Lewis (5th). THAT is a fact. He may be a first rounder but not a top 5 or even a top 10.
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