Nice Article on James Jones

[Joemailman]

It's interesting hoe much Jones' childhood story sounds like Donald Driver's. Now that things are better, I hope the parallels continue. I suspect the two have already talked about this.

[Tarlam!]

So does that mean it really took me seven minutes to type the response, and I should quit this board due to wasted time?

You silly Beagle! Now you're fishin'!

And, a poll would prove that!

[MJZiggy]

Well, Patler, normally a "last edited" caption will track an edit...... This is clearly missing.

So, believe me when I say, I rethought 007's position very quickly after my initial response...

So does that mean it really took me seven minutes to type the response, and I should quit this board due to wasted time?

Do you need a hug this morning or something? Perhaps you quoted first (at the same moment Tar edited) and formulated your response after, otherwise, blame it on a software glitch.

[Patler]

Well, Patler, normally a "last edited" caption will track an edit...... This is clearly missing.

So, believe me when I say, I rethought 007's position very quickly after my initial response...

So does that mean it really took me seven minutes to type the response, and I should quit this board due to wasted time?

Do you need a hug this morning or something? Perhaps you quoted first (at the same moment Tar edited) and formulated your response after, otherwise, blame it on a software glitch.

Actually, I was half serious. If it took me 7 minutes to type THAT response (as it seems it must have), I must be wasting my life away posting here!

Where have I gone wrong?
What have I done with my life?
I had potential, honest, but all I became is a Packerrats poster!
If I could only live my life over!

[Tarlam!]

Well, Patler, normally a "last edited" caption will track an edit...... This is clearly missing.

So, believe me when I say, I rethought 007's position very quickly after my initial response...

So does that mean it really took me seven minutes to type the response, and I should quit this board due to wasted time?

Do you need a hug this morning or something? Perhaps you quoted first (at the same moment Tar edited) and formulated your response after, otherwise, blame it on a software glitch.

Actually, I was half serious. If it took me 7 minutes to type THAT response (as it seems it must have), I must be wasting my life away posting here!

Where have I gone wrong?
What have I done with my life?
I had potential, honest, but all I became is a Packerrats poster!
If I could only live my life over!

I swear, I never saw Patler's response before I edited. BUT Maybe I took 8 minutes to edit! And the systeted my post time edit time.... Thus Patler is NOT wásting his life here - I AM!!!!

[MJZiggy]

Ay yi yi...

Is this going to require a timed typing test? And Patler, it's never too late to learn touch typing....

[packinpatland]

This sounds like a serious case of which came first, the chicken or the egg.

[Patler]

And Patler, it's never too late to learn touch typing....

I don't know... you know what they say about old dogs and new tricks!

[MJZiggy]

No excuses. I have a 9-year old dog who can still pick up anything I try to teach her. You can do it.

[Patler]

No excuses. I have a 9-year old dog who can still pick up anything I try to teach her. You can do it.

I'll stick to my voice-recognition software, which I don't use nearly enough!

[pbmax]

I'm not so worried about the speed of Patler's typing as I am about the fact that I thought he had secretly gotten a copy of the CBA when all the while it was posted on the NFLPA website. Clearly, I am slowing down.

But I did want to add that I don't think you can single out either poverty or drugs as the single cause of the problem. The two are very closely linked as I think Tarlam reconfigured his position. I am not saying poverty absolutely causes drug use, nor am I saying the reverse.

But its interesting that in reviewing the events, someone mentioned that James' mother and family lost their house. Nowhere in the article does it mention a house. This is interesting because had the family had that kind of asset, they might have had alternative options to deal with the Mother's drug abuse. Just as easily they could have been living in an apartment.

Like dealing with the legal system, money doesn't make you immune to being guilty or getting addicted to drugs. But it gives you alternatives when you do find yourself in trouble.

The proximate cause of the problem seems to be drug use/abuse, but the course of their life was shaped considerably by poverty as well. To give an example, the last two places I would recommend to a friend to beat an addiction would be a homeless shelter and prison.

[HarveyWallbangers]

Yep, poverty causes drug abuse. Just ask Lindsay Lohan.

I was poor growing up. Blaming drug abuse on poverty is just a convenient excuse in my book. It's also an argument often made by folks that want to justify increased social spending (e.g. if we give your money to poor folks we'll solve the drug problem too).

Personally, I blame drug abuse on the person. Besides them, the only other people to blame are usually their parents.

[BallHawk]

Yep, poverty causes drug abuse. Just ask Lindsay Lohan.

Hell, ask Brett Favre.

[Tarlam!]

Mea Culpa.

Sorry. This thread is about a GREAT story and my remarks sent it awry. I apologize.

I have started a thread in RR to address drugs.

[4and12to12and4]

Mea Culpa.

Sorry. This thread is about a GREAT story and my remarks sent it awry. I apologize.

I have started a thread in RR to address drugs.

No apology necessary. Very entertaining thread. I giggled like a school girl a couple of times