Originally posted by wist43
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I don't think TT wants Favre "gone." However, I don't think he'll be devastated when Favre retires. What GM doesn't what to have made all the pieces? What GM doesn't want to say "Yeah, see that QB? I picked him up. He was my find." Any GM wants that. TT isn't some weirdo who enjoys seeing Favre stumble to the finish line. He wants to build a winning football team. Sure, he may do it different then most GMs do, but the goal is still the same, to win a Super Bowl. TT is leading this team on its way."I've got one word for you- Dallas, Texas, Super Bowl"- Jermichael Finley
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Originally posted by HarveyWallbangersWhere did I say passer ratings aren't accurate? I said that passer ratings can be overrated, and that they tend to skew the stats to a WCO QB (which doesn't help the argument for Favre since he plays in the WCO). Other factors come into play when looking at QBs--other than passer ratings. Some people think they are the be all and end all. Do you disagree?Originally posted by RastakI must point this out if Favre's passer rating is low it's an indication that passer ratings aren't a very accurate view of a QB's play but with Rodgers it means he was doing ok?
Also, it's not like Rodgers passer ratings were inflated because he was throwing to mint WRs or had a great OL. Wouldn't most people say the Packers had a young OL that struggled in the preseason last year? Wouldn't most people say the Packers had little depth at WR last year? His rating was inflated because of a long TD to Jennings, but he still did pretty well last year in the preseason--even without that TD. Anybody who watched him in preseason in 2005 and then in 2006 could see that he made improvements. Doesn't take a scout to see that.
I'm only pointing out that I've heard you and others downplay the significance of a QB rating and you used it here to support your argument, that's all. I'm really not arguing that Rodgers is bad, I agree there isn't enough data to say for sure.
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He did look pretty good in the pre-season last year. It sounds like he made improvements this off-season too. This is definitly an interesting topic and something to keep a close eye on during the preseason. If Rodgers goes out and puts up bigtime numbers in the preseason we might start to sing his praise. Let's not forget that he was 21 when we drafted him. He's only 23 right now, the age of many rookies. He's got a long career ahead of him and he's continued to get better. Nothing about his progress suggest he's not going to make it. In fact, he's shown the steady, consistant improvement that you'd hope from a young QB. The odds are against every young QB, but Rodgers has done nothing outside of his injury to suggest he can't play in this league any more than any other young QB.Formerly known as JustinHarrell.
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Packer fan bars, like the Corbett Fish House in Portland, would also have transplanted Wisconsinites burn it to ashes!Originally posted by wist43Never happen... I think it's pretty obvious that TT wants Favre gone, but given his iconic status, even TT knows he can't mess with Favre.
Riot??? I think they'd pull a Stalin, and burn the state of Wisconsin to ashes.
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We haven't seen enough of Rodgers to tell if he is a bust. a pro-bowler, or somewhere in the middle!Originally posted by JustinHarrellHe did look pretty good in the pre-season last year. It sounds like he made improvements this off-season too. This is definitly an interesting topic and something to keep a close eye on during the preseason. If Rodgers goes out and puts up bigtime numbers in the preseason we might start to sing his praise. Let's not forget that he was 21 when we drafted him. He's only 23 right now, the age of many rookies. He's got a long career ahead of him and he's continued to get better. Nothing about his progress suggest he's not going to make it. In fact, he's shown the steady, consistant improvement that you'd hope from a young QB. The odds are against every young QB, but Rodgers has done nothing outside of his injury to suggest he can't play in this league any more than any other young QB.
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Is that the one right on the Columbia - by the airport?Originally posted by oregonpackfanPacker fan bars, like the Corbett Fish House in Portland, would also have transplanted Wisconsinites burn it to ashes!Originally posted by wist43Never happen... I think it's pretty obvious that TT wants Favre gone, but given his iconic status, even TT knows he can't mess with Favre.
Riot??? I think they'd pull a Stalin, and burn the state of Wisconsin to ashes.
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