Packers rate 7th in dysfunction?

[packinpatland]

Realy?????


Perloff's Blog

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Ten most dysfunctional offseasons

This time of year most of the NFL news is negative, so it's a good time to look back at what's gone wrong in the offseason. Here's my take on the 10 most dysfunctional teams of this offseason. Keep in mind, this is just for the last five months, so a perennially dysfunctional team like the Cardinals didn't make the cut.

1. Chargers - San Diego fired Marty Schottenheimer because he didn't get along with general manager A.J. Smith despite last year's 14-2 mark. And coordinators Wade Phillips and Cam Cameron left for head coaching jobs.

2. Dolphins - Both fans and veterans spoke out against the selection of Ted Ginn Jr. at No. 9 in the draft. And their handling of the Daunte Culpepper situation has been ugly.

3. Chiefs - It took too long to ship Trent Green to Miami and the QB situation became an unneeded distraction. DE Jared Allen, who will serve a four-game NFL suspension for DUI, was unhappy he got franchise tagged and RB Larry Johnson's impending free agency looms on the horizon.

4. Falcons - They dealt one of the NFL's top backup QBs, Matt Schaub, before the Michael Vick dogfighting scandal broke. Now they have too much invested in Vick to distance themselves from their controversial quarterback.

5. Bengals - The bottom line is Cincinnari was at a zero tolerance for any arrests. There have been two this offseason - A.J. Nicholson (since released) and Quincy Wilson (last weekend at a wedding). Not good.

6. Bears - The Super Bowl loser jinx appears to be alive and well. LB Lance Briggs was furious about being franchise tagged and may hold out, DE Alex Brown wants to be traded and DT Tank Johnson went to jail and will serve an eight-game NFL suspension.

7. Packers - First, the Packers had to wait to see if Brett Favre would come back, then they didn't draft the players Favre wanted. It's not easy to see where Green Bay is going in the post-Favre era.

8. Titans - Tennessee is trying to distance itself from Pacman, but the team hasn't gotten far enough away from the troubled cornerback. And the Titans failed to address some pretty big holes in free agency.

9. Buccaneers - How many QBs does coach Jon Gruden need? Tampa traded for Jake Plummer and signed Jeff Garcia, with Chris Simms still in the fold. Plummer then retired (at least for now) and Garcia has jumped way ahead of Simms in the QB battle.

10. Giants - The Giants ended last season mired in dysfunction. They cut some of the bad apples, but you still get the feeling this locker room isn't on the same page with coach Tom Coughlin. TE Jeremy Shockey worked out in Miami again this offseason and you know he has a major explosion coming at some point this season

[Charles Woodson]

Thats a stupid article. Bengals should be number one. Titans should be a lil higher

[Rastak]

WTF? No Vikings! Whoo Hoo! Every damn year they make that stupid list.

[Patler]

Re: Packers rate 7th in dysfunction?

Realy?????


Perloff's Blog

http://www.fannation.com/blogs/post/22294

Ten most dysfunctional offseasons



7. Packers - First, the Packers had to wait to see if Brett Favre would come back, then they didn't draft the players Favre wanted. It's not easy to see where Green Bay is going in the post-Favre era.

Don't you just love it when a writer is so far off base on the facts he uses to support his comment?

1. "First, the Packers had to wait to see if Brett Favre would come back..."
Not true - Favre's return was announced February 2, earlier than recent years, and before anyone became very antsy wondering about it. He announced before FA, the draft, everything. No uncertainty this year that mattered at all.

2. "...then they didn't draft the players Favre wanted. "
Also not true. - They didn't sign Moss as a FA. I recall no comment from Favre about who they should draft. They drafted two receivers, two runningbacks and a tight end, including their 2nd, 3rd and 5th round picks.

3. "It's not easy to see where Green Bay is going in the post-Favre era."
It's not? Maybe for the writer, but I think it is clear to most people that TT wants to build a strong defense to lead the team in the post-Favre era, and he is trying to solidify an offensive line that will be the strength of the offense.

[The Leaper]

I don't think this guy knows anything about the Packers situation.

The real "wait" regarding Favre came following the 2005 season...the team went 4-12 and was facing a serious rebuilding campaign. When Favre decided to return following that season, it was pretty likely he had made the decision to try to play 2-3 more years and see if he could get one more shot at a playoff run. Personally, I was 100% convinced he was going to return in 2007, even after the Chicago cry fest...and I'm 75% convinced he is going to return in 2008. The guy is still a damn good QB if you put some weapons around him.

I also agree that the plan for the post-Favre era is clearly seen in the last two first round picks and last four major free agent signings...Hawk, Harrell, Kampman, Woodson, Pickett and Jenkins. This team is building a strong defense going forward...which is the whole reason Favre threw a hissy fit in the first place.

How can you say the Chargers are most dysfunctional? They were dumb for firing Schotty? Why? The guy has proven time and time and time again that he is a failure when it comes to the postseason. The Chargers are talented...and are more likely to take the next step to an AFC title without Shotty in charge.

The Dolphins, Falcons and Bengals are all far more dysfunctional than the Chargers.

[wist43]

I wouldn't use the term "dysfunctional" to describe the Packers offseason, but I understand where national writers would look askew at what TT is doing.

The NFL is a short-term league - most contracts running in the 3-5 year range. The rules are set up to allow a team to retool fairly quickly; and, given that Favre's days are numbered and most don't view Rodgers as the answer, it isn't surprising that national writers would be skeptical or critical of TT's approach.

I don't think there is any denying that TT is taking the long, longer, longest approach to building the team. We're in year 3 of the TT era and the team is still below average; Favre's retirement portends a major setback; and, deserved or not, most don't expect TT to do anything in the FA market.

Not dysfunctional... just very tortoise like and not very sexy.

[packinpatland]

Not dysfunctional... just very tortoise like and not very sexy.


In other words, functional

[pittstang5]

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2. "...then they didn't draft the players Favre wanted. "

These are the type of comments from writers that really burn me. So who did Favre want in the draft? Please, Mr. Perlof, elaborate.

[rpiotr01]

Re: Packers rate 7th in dysfunction?

2. "...then they didn't draft the players Favre wanted. "

These are the type of comments from writers that really burn me. So who did Favre want in the draft? Please, Mr. Perlof, elaborate.

Agreed.

As if GMs should draft based on who their star players want to begin with...

EDIT: Looking again, it's all this favre crap, and nothing about that little situation regarding the president of our team. That's the reason our offseason can be described as dysfunctional, not because of anything favre did or said...

[Patler]

Re: Packers rate 7th in dysfunction?

EDIT: Looking again, it's all this favre crap, and nothing about that little situation regarding the president of our team. That's the reason our offseason can be described as dysfunctional, not because of anything favre did or said...

Excellent point!

[Patler]

I don't think there is any denying that TT is taking the long, longer, longest approach to building the team. We're in year 3 of the TT era and the team is still below average; Favre's retirement portends a major setback; and, deserved or not, most don't expect TT to do anything in the FA market.

In all fairness, if you want to emphasize being in year 3 of the rebuilding process, you really need to see the results of year 3 first. Time and time again the offseason evaluations of the good and bad teams turn out to be very, very wrong; although most often it is the other way, ones that are expected to be contenders fall flat on their faces.

[Rastak]

I don't think there is any denying that TT is taking the long, longer, longest approach to building the team. We're in year 3 of the TT era and the team is still below average; Favre's retirement portends a major setback; and, deserved or not, most don't expect TT to do anything in the FA market.

In all fairness, if you want to emphasize being in year 3 of the rebuilding process, you really need to see the results of year 3 first. Time and time again the offseason evaluations of the good and bad teams turn out to be very, very wrong; although most often it is the other way, ones that are expected to be contenders fall flat on their faces.

I've heard the Packers are contenders and the Vikings aren't.......

[Creepy]

Can't agree with you Leaper, I see SD taking a big drop. Rivers will be in his second season as a starter and now has to work with a new OC, the team has enw DC and HC. They fired a coach who hasn't won a SB, but has lead three different teams to the play-offs and twice in the last three years with SD. Prio to his arrival in 2002 the last time a SD team made the pay-offs was 1995.

Using the "He can't win the big one" is crap. With that idea it would have been OK if Indianapolis had fired Dungy after the 2005 season. Schottemnheimer should not have been fired and teh Chargers will miss the play-offs in 2007.

[wist43]

I don't consider any team in the NFC to be a true "contender"... In no way, shape, or form do I consider the Packers to be contenders.

Somebody from the NFC will make it to the SB, and since they're in the game, they'll have a "punchers chance"; but really, no one in the NFC is worthy of making it to the big game.

[packinpatland]

I don't consider any team in the NFC to be a true "contender"... In no way, shape, or form do I consider the Packers to be contenders.

Somebody from the NFC will make it to the SB, and since they're in the game, they'll have a "punchers chance"; but really, no one in the NFC is worthy of making it to the big game.

Oh you of very little faith.