Packers trying for Larry Johnson?

[Tony Oday]

I never understood the GMs love affair with draft picks. I mean when Dillon was traded to the Pats it was for a SECOND ROUND PICK!!! WTF he was at the top of his game. I would love to know who that second rounder turned into.

I also remember Shaun Alexander could have been had for a second rounder. I just cant believe how many good players can be had for picks and the odds of a pick becoming a good player cant be that great.

Who would you rather have on this team? Larry Johnson, Michael Turner? Or Justin Harrel?

[wist43]

I definitely would have thrown a 2nd rounder at SD for Turner. Of course the tender was at a 1st and a 3rd, but I'm pretty sure they would have taken a 2nd straight up.

So the 2nd turns into Bandon Jackson... who would you rather have??? Jackson or Turner???

To me, it's a no brainer - Turner has proven he can be a player in the league, Jackson is smaller and not only has proven nothing at the NFL level, he did very little in college due to being part of a rotation at Nebraska. In fact, his lack of playing time was one of the reasons he came out a year early.

If we had Turner in the fold, I'd be somewhat more opptimistic... instead, another year of developing 823 more draftees. On top of last years 637 picks, and next years 984 picks.

[HarveyWallbangers]

I definitely would have thrown a 2nd rounder at SD for Turner. Of course the tender was at a 1st and a 3rd, but I'm pretty sure they would have taken a 2nd straight up.

What makes you "pretty sure?" Some team would have given up a 2nd rounder for him--if that's all it would have taken. San Diego publicly stated they wanted a 1st round pick for him.

[wist43]

[quote="HarveyWallbangers"]

I definitely would have thrown a 2nd rounder at SD for Turner. Of course the tender was at a 1st and a 3rd, but I'm pretty sure they would have taken a 2nd straight up.

Somehow ended up with a double post.

[wist43]

I definitely would have thrown a 2nd rounder at SD for Turner. Of course the tender was at a 1st and a 3rd, but I'm pretty sure they would have taken a 2nd straight up.

What makes you "pretty sure?" Some team would have given up a 2nd rounder for him--if that's all it would have taken. San Diego publicly stated they wanted a 1st round pick for him.

They were definitely looking to move him, and they knew the 1st and 3rd tender would scare everyone off enough that they could control the situation...

Nobody was going to give up a #1... SD wouldn't have accepted a 3rd... Papa Bear, Mama Bear, 2nd rounder.

A 2nd rounder would have been a reasonable offer... negotiate a throw-in 5th rounder, and you've got the makings of a deal.

Of course, TT trading a high pick for a player is never going to happen. I would definitely take Turner over Jackson though.

[Patler]

They were definitely looking to move him, and they knew the 1st and 3rd tender would scare everyone off enough that they could control the situation...

Nobody was going to give up a #1... SD wouldn't have accepted a 3rd... Papa Bear, Mama Bear, 2nd rounder.

A 2nd rounder would have been a reasonable offer... negotiate a throw-in 5th rounder, and you've got the makings of a deal.

Strictly a guess on your part.

[wist43]

They were definitely looking to move him, and they knew the 1st and 3rd tender would scare everyone off enough that they could control the situation...

Nobody was going to give up a #1... SD wouldn't have accepted a 3rd... Papa Bear, Mama Bear, 2nd rounder.

A 2nd rounder would have been a reasonable offer... negotiate a throw-in 5th rounder, and you've got the makings of a deal.

Strictly a guess on your part.

My apologies Patler. I shall henceforth refrain from engaging in such tomfoolery lest I offend your sense of all that is right and correct in Packerland, i.e. anything TT says, doesn't say, does, or doesn't do.



Come to think of it, why are we even on this site??? It is, afterall, a complete waste of time. I think I'll quit posting until I've learned my lesson... with years of hard work and study, I think I can one day come to view the bottoms of your shoes in terms of football knowledge and team building strategy.

What could I have been thinking???

[Partial]

[quote="wist43"]
A 2nd rounder would have been a reasonable offer... negotiate a throw-in 5th rounder, and you've got the makings of a deal.
/quote]


1. Yesterday didn't you just make a reference to how much you value 5th round picks? If thats the case how can you call it a throw-away?

2. Tennesee offered them a second and they didn't take it. They also supposedly offered a first rounder for next year. I highly doubt they were going to take any less than a current 1st because they are gearing up to make a run this year.

[KYPack]

I never understood the GMs love affair with draft picks. I mean when Dillon was traded to the Pats it was for a SECOND ROUND PICK!!! WTF he was at the top of his game. I would love to know who that second rounder turned into.

I also remember Shaun Alexander could have been had for a second rounder. I just cant believe how many good players can be had for picks and the odds of a pick becoming a good player cant be that great.

Who would you rather have on this team? Larry Johnson, Michael Turner? Or Justin Harrel?

The Bengals used the pick they got for Dillon for starting saftey Madieu Williams. Williams is a solid player, good against the pass, good against the run, smart guy, coach on the field type. The trades of seconds for estqablished vets go both ways. Now the Bengals have a solid starter. Dillon did his job for NE.

I'd say the Bengals got over in the long haul, but NE got just what they need for that run.

[Patler]

They were definitely looking to move him, and they knew the 1st and 3rd tender would scare everyone off enough that they could control the situation...

Nobody was going to give up a #1... SD wouldn't have accepted a 3rd... Papa Bear, Mama Bear, 2nd rounder.

A 2nd rounder would have been a reasonable offer... negotiate a throw-in 5th rounder, and you've got the makings of a deal.

Strictly a guess on your part.

My apologies Patler. I shall henceforth refrain from engaging in such tomfoolery lest I offend your sense of all that is right and correct in Packerland, i.e. anything TT says, doesn't say, does, or doesn't do.



Come to think of it, why are we even on this site??? It is, afterall, a complete waste of time. I think I'll quit posting until I've learned my lesson... with years of hard work and study, I think I can one day come to view the bottoms of your shoes in terms of football knowledge and team building strategy.

What could I have been thinking???

Gee, when you say "definitely" and things like that, I guess the great and all knowing Wist is not to be challenged. WHAT WAS I EVER THINKING?

If the great and almighty Wist says it, the rest of us mere mortals must accept it unchallenged, because Lord knows Wist is the only one who knows of what he speaks.

Perhaps if you wouldn't speak so positively about things you are only guessing about, it would be accepted as an opinion and not dictatorial dogma.

[packrulz]

I think Dillon still has some talent, sure, he's old, but at least he doesn't have asthma. TT wouldn't have to give up any draft picks for him, just cash. I thought his effort was good at NE, Belicheck just wanted to go with the youth. He's no LJ, but I think he would help the team at low cost, which TT likes.

[Pacopete4]

my friend plays of the USA football team that was just created this year to play in the world championship in japan. He coaches best pal works for the pack and he says they are tryin for the LJ trade as we speak and says that is the big named guy that will be coming in if it happens. I know, I know.. you dont have to believe me but it actually is a reliable source, its just whether or not the two sides can come together on the deal.

[Patler]

They were definitely looking to move him, and they knew the 1st and 3rd tender would scare everyone off enough that they could control the situation...

Nobody was going to give up a #1... SD wouldn't have accepted a 3rd... Papa Bear, Mama Bear, 2nd rounder.

A 2nd rounder would have been a reasonable offer... negotiate a throw-in 5th rounder, and you've got the makings of a deal.

Strictly a guess on your part.

My apologies Patler. I shall henceforth refrain from engaging in such tomfoolery lest I offend your sense of all that is right and correct in Packerland, i.e. anything TT says, doesn't say, does, or doesn't do.



Come to think of it, why are we even on this site??? It is, afterall, a complete waste of time. I think I'll quit posting until I've learned my lesson... with years of hard work and study, I think I can one day come to view the bottoms of your shoes in terms of football knowledge and team building strategy.

What could I have been thinking???

Gee, all that for a six word statement on my part?

Interesting how you call players "trash" and "junk", ridicule things about the Packers players, coaches, front office, scouting department, etc. in post after post, belittle others opinions, then take umbrage if challenged.

[retailguy]

my friend plays of the USA football team that was just created this year to play in the world championship in japan. He coaches best pal works for the pack and he says they are tryin for the LJ trade as we speak and says that is the big named guy that will be coming in if it happens. I know, I know.. you dont have to believe me but it actually is a reliable source, its just whether or not the two sides can come together on the deal.

Gee, I hope this is NOT true. Quite honestly, if this is really true, I would expect Earth to fall off of its axis, the sun to explode, and the remainder of Earth to become a black hole.

Ted Thompson has publicly stated that "he cannot fathom a situation" where he would give up next years draft choice. Those are his words - NOT MINE.

Ted's idea of a "name" player is Taco Wallace. Diaper man is NOT headed this way...

[retailguy]

Interesting how you call players "trash" and "junk", ridicule things about the Packers players, coaches, front office, scouting department, etc. in post after post, belittle others opinions, then take umbrage if challenged.

Wist is frequently correct in his analysis, Nick Barnett notwithstanding. I privately nominated him for "Eeyore rat" about 8 months ago, but it was "sanitized" into skepitcal rat.

I'm proud of you Patler, that's the most I've seen you challege somebody since some idiot called you "dude" in JSO. Incidentally, I nominated you for "Dude Rat" a while back also. You see how much power I've got around here....