Packers trying for Larry Johnson?

[Zool]

It's I'm definitely in the minority as this forum is awash in drunken Kool-Aid drinkers.

I know you mean me in this remark! Are you belittling drunken Kool Aid drinkers! Do I need to take umbrella on this?

Relax you two; you are Top 5 on this forum in m book, both of you!

Huh?

What if he had said, "bumbershoot"???

Are we gonna be getting hit with umbrellas? Is Tarlam the old lady from Benny Hill?

[The Shadow]

Was 'umbrage' the desired word choice?

[wist43]

Was 'umbrage' the desired word choice?

Yes... Tar was being obliquely comedic.

And a bumbershoot is, in fact, an umbrella.

[Tarlam!]

Clearly I will need to use emoticons in future to puncuate my pathetic attempts to make you'll laugh.

I should have added: to make it perfectly obvious I was taking the piss out of both Patler and Wisty..... My Bad!

[Zool]

I actually thought you were gonna break out an umbrella and start the beatings.

[The Shadow]

For we bastiches, you must be quite literal.

[run pMc]

What 4and12to12and4said.

You guys rule.

[Merlin]

LJ would be a nice pickup just because of his size. It wouldn't matter if he could make the cut, he could just run them over! I don't see TT reaching here. Cory Dillon I could see because he has some gas in the tank, is solid out of the back field and has quick feet (perfect for the ZBS). He is the type of back that could be on the field the whole game for another season or two. Spelling him with Morency and Jackson would give the staff some insight into what they are up against. In limited action Morency looked very good and we don't know about Jackson. Having a featured back on the team will give us some veteran depth and security.

As far as Koonze and his big mouth, his comments are pretty generic. There will be cap cuts yet before camp and we will big up some more mediocre players to compete for a spot. Maybe if we are lucky Tank Johnson will avoid further suspension and then we could be a second half team "blowing" teams away....teehee!

[Partial]

Its amazing how many people must not have watched too many new england games last year. Dillion is washed up.

[Patler]

u guys are tools..

You're from Superior, and you're calling other people tools???

Sadly, I am ashamed to admit that I'm from that God forsaken wasteland too... I go back to visit as little as possible. What an armpit.

Geez, Wist, perhaps we know each other! Lived not far from Superior myself for many years (although I suspect I am a fair bit older than you.)

[Patler]

while my negativism is directed at the overall direction of the team, your negativism is directed at me b/c I don't agree with your view that the team is on the verge of multiple titles.

I enjoy debating you, and most of the other Kool-Aid drinkers, but the fact is that I am in the minority, and up until you decided to try to shame me and my inane opinions, no one has tried to attack me on a personal level.

You want to argue football opinions and positions??? Fine, let's argue and debate; but to dismiss my opinion as simply "a guess" on my part, w/o backing up a refrutation??? - that's a personal attack, albeit slight, which is something I've never done to you or, to the best of my recollection, anyone else in this forum.

Partial at least took the time to try to shoot down my contention that Turner might have been had for a 2nd rounder with some "facts" - that they were facts recalled from fuzzy memory, notwithstanding, at least he cited some particulars related to the argument - if we cared enough to carry on the argument we could take it to the dreaded level of having to do research.

You, on the other hand, simply dismissed my position as being unworthy of consideration simply b/c it came from me. If you don't like me or my tenor then fine, don't read my posts.

See now this just show how wrong you are! Where do you ever get the opinion that I see multiple titles on the horizon? I don't think they are close. In fact, I argued that while winning multiple division titles under Sherman it was no more than a middle of the road team because the last few year they rarely beat teams with winning records. The team has regressed since then, but I do view it as a tactical retreat.

My view is that we really have no clue what these rookies will do until they actually get the chance to play. You appear to have dismissed several without even a "live" practice under their belts.


I have dismissed your position as unworthy of consideration? Is that why I have questioned you on it? Because it is unworthy? If I felt it unworthy of consideration, I wouldn't comment on it. I would ignore it. I'm beginning to believe you don't understand what a real debate is. Its not what we see in the political arena, where each merely states their opinion. A real debate is being challenged on your opinion and being forced to defend it. THAT is what I have tried to get from you. Your reasoning behind the grandeous statements you sometimes make, like Jones having no more potential than a couple free agents, things TT "definitely" (your word) could have done, etc. It is precisely those types of unsupportable statements that any good debater will attack.

You made the statement, it was up to you to defend it. When and if you could, it would then be upon me or someone else to counter. But that did not occur, because you did not (perhaps could not) support it.

[wist43]

They were definitely looking to move him, and they knew the 1st and 3rd tender would scare everyone off enough that they could control the situation...

Nobody was going to give up a #1... SD wouldn't have accepted a 3rd... Papa Bear, Mama Bear, 2nd rounder.

A 2nd rounder would have been a reasonable offer... negotiate a throw-in 5th rounder, and you've got the makings of a deal.

Strictly a guess on your part.

What am I defending then???

Turner was on the market - nobody denies that. So saying "they were definitely looking to move him" is supportable.

Nobody was going to give up a #1 - again, supportable (b/c nobody did).
SD wasn't going to accept a third - again, supportable.

A 2nd rounder would have been a reasonable offer - my opinion. And, I would have been willing to sweeten that offer.

What am I defending??? I think the positions I've taken in my posts in this thread are perfectly rational and supportable.

[Tony Oday]

What the Pack SHOULD have done was trade down for NE two picks for our 1st rounder. Trade one of them for Turner and use the other one on Harrell

[retailguy]

What the Pack SHOULD have done was trade down for NE two picks for our 1st rounder. Trade one of them for Turner and use the other one on Harrell

Great idea, but wouldn't have worked. Denver has stated that they would have taken Harrell before we'd have got to either NE pick, and, there is no evidence that NE would have moved up.

[Merlin]

Its amazing how many people must not have watched too many new england games last year. Dillion is washed up.

He isn't any more washed up then a running back who has to leave the field because of his asthma. I am not saying the guy will rush for 2,000 yards but he is a viable starter who can split time with Morency and Jackson until either of them are ready to be the full time starter. Right now, we do not have a running back in camp that has proven they can take every snap. Dillon can take every snap and although he isn't what he used to be he is far from washed up. I guess Favre is washed up to since he only threw 18 TD's last year.

It's amazing how many people must not have watched too many packer games last year...