Packers pass rush, effective or not?

[Packnut]

Re: Sacks

In fact I'd be curious to know out of the numbers you mentioned, how many came in the 2nd half of games on 3rd down.

Yes, I would be too. Perhaps you could look into that?

Went to all my stat sites and can't find the info. Gonna have to go back through play by play from last season. This could take a while.

If you go there. It might be a good idea to bring in lots of beer and nacho's n cheese.

Well I got half of your recipe. The suds are a flowing.......

[Tony Oday]

I think our pass rush was great last year. Jenkins up the gut creating havoc. Kamp out working everyone in the NFL. Pickett's fat body throwing people around like they stole his doughnuts!

I do not like a team that has to blitz for preasure. It degrades the rest of the defense and if the blitz is picked up it hurts the secondary coverage. The Pack preasured and knocked down the QB a lot last year and this year with KGB going back to what he is good at we will have 3 guys on the line that can pin their ears back and break some QBs.

[Patler]

Re: Sacks

I meant that a sack in the 4th quarter that stops a game tying or game winning drive is more important than a 1st quarter sack.

Upon reflection, I'm not sure I can agree with that.
The sack in the 4th quarter of a close game might be more exciting, more fan-pleasing and more attention-grabbing; but it is not necessarily more important than a sack earlier in the game that pins a team deep, keeps them down and allows you to get the ball and build a big lead to coast to a victory. Sacks earlier in the game can put you in a position of not needing the sack later in the game.

If you are analyzing the timing of sacks, you will have to factor in the score, not just the quarter, because how difficult or important is an end-of-the-game sack when you are up by several scores and you know the other team will be passing?

[Packnut]

Re: Sacks

I meant that a sack in the 4th quarter that stops a game tying or game winning drive is more important than a 1st quarter sack.

Upon reflection, I'm not sure I can agree with that.
The sack in the 4th quarter of a close game might be more exciting, more fan-pleasing and more attention-grabbing; but it is not necessarily more important than a sack earlier in the game that pins a team deep, keeps them down and allows you to get the ball and build a big lead to coast to a victory. Sacks earlier in the game can put you in a position of not needing the sack later in the game.

If you are analyzing the timing of sacks, you will have to factor in the score, not just the quarter, because how difficult or important is an end-of-the-game sack when you are up by several scores and you know the other team will be passing?

No surprise here as I believe we could both look at the same sky and have different opinions on what color it is. :P

Sacks in key situations can change the momentum in a game, and I think we could agee how important that big MO is. A sack in the 1st quarter can set the tone of the game, but the other team still will have several chances to negate that sack. In the 2nd half, your chances get fewer and fewer so 3rd down sacks become much more important.

It's just like my baseball example. A guy can hit .320 but if he does'nt come through in the clutch, then that .320 average is mis-leading. My point being that very few times in games last year did we get clutch sacks.

[Patler]

Re: Sacks

A sack in the 1st quarter can set the tone of the game, but the other team still will have several chances to negate that sack. In the 2nd half, your chances get fewer and fewer so 3rd down sacks become much more important.

I don't know. I'll take 4 first half sacks and a 21 point half time lead anytime!

[Packnut]

Re: Sacks

A sack in the 1st quarter can set the tone of the game, but the other team still will have several chances to negate that sack. In the 2nd half, your chances get fewer and fewer so 3rd down sacks become much more important.

I don't know. I'll take 4 first half sacks and a 21 point half time lead anytime!

Umm, that would be the 96 D your talking about.

[RashanGary]

I think they had a pretty good pass rush last year but it can and should be better with the addition of Harrell to the Dline rotation and the maturing of Hawk and Poppinga.

[red]

we were good "at times"

we got our hurries and sacks in clumps, to me it seemed like all or nothing, no in-between

i remember the days of reggie and sean jones where you could always count on preasure, the qb would not have all day to throw the ball

the pass rush needs to be more consistent