Originally posted by MadtownPacker
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Making the team younger which means that he got rid of the country club atmosphere that seemed to be in place and got rid of holding on to those who were on the SB teams. Oh yeah firing Sherman who somehow allowed a malaise to creep into the team.
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I agree with esoxx's statement. We need at least 1 full football season to judge TT's effectiveness more fully, especially since he subscribes to building a team through the draft.Originally posted by esoxxI'm think it will be appropriate to judge after this season is over. At this point, his players are too young to make any real conclusions. I'm willing to wait and see.
After this season my opinion will be clearly shaped of him.
I agree also with the poster who stated that getting rid of Sherman was his best move. I personally do not have anything angainst Sherman. He was just a mediocre coach but a terrible GM.
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I'm an other.
The thing I like about TT is his drafting. He is a million times better than Sherman in that area. He also made some good moves in free agency; Woodson, Pickett, cutting Sharper, among other things.
However I also hate a lot of things he's done. The main one is Walker. I still believe that he should of gave in and signed him that summer he wanted a new deal. He's a top ten wr imo and you just don't let that kind of talent leave. I also don't like that he didn’t sign Green and that he does not try a little harder to try and win with Brett.Draft Brandin Cooks WR OSU!
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This is why the team is on the rising. They have no wheres to go but up and many are showing that potential. The only question isnt if but who will emerge to be the next start at RB or safety or maybe even WR.Originally posted by ZachMNMaking the team younger which means that he got rid of the country club atmosphere that seemed to be in place and got rid of holding on to those who were on the SB teams.
At least it leaves us with something to look forward to.
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Originally posted by PacknutI voted "other" cause as I've said before, Teddy has done some good things along with plain stupidity.
His best move was signing Woodson.
No shock here as to his biggest screw up-#84.........
You voted other ? Heck if you are an other I must be a fan of the Snapper
TERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWER
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Oh man, if you turn into a snapper-lover clone, I'm outta here!Originally posted by BretskyOriginally posted by PacknutI voted "other" cause as I've said before, Teddy has done some good things along with plain stupidity.
His best move was signing Woodson.
No shock here as to his biggest screw up-#84.........
You voted other ? Heck if you are an other I must be a fan of the Snapper

We see things pretty much the same way, but your just much more diplomatic about it which I admire.
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I consider myself a fan, although not a fanatic (See Ballhawk).
I was considering going with "other", but with Bretsky and Packnut going with other, it wouldn't have made sense for me to do so.
I applaud TT for firing Sherman. Although he could have won a lot of games with Sherman, he was correct in recognizing that Sherman was not going to get the Packers to the Super Bowl.I can't run no more with that lawless crowd
While the killers in high places say their prayers out loud
But they've summoned, they've summoned up a thundercloud
They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen
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At this point I'd have to say I'ma fan, but agree with giving him one more year. This will be the year that will show which direction the team is going. I was skeptical with a lot of his moves but many are working out. Like M3 as coach (I was hoping for Sean Payton) and the OL's he drafted last year.
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Originally posted by JoemailmanI consider myself a fan, although not a fanatic (See Ballhawk).
I was considering going with "other", but with Bretsky and Packnut going with other, it wouldn't have made sense for me to do so.
I applaud TT for firing Sherman. Although he could have won a lot of games with Sherman, he was correct in recognizing that Sherman was not going to get the Packers to the Super Bowl.
We need another category for you "a TT fan with-in reason".
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Originally posted by Tarlam!I like his drafting of T-Murph. The guy was a player and that was plain to see. Too bad about the injury, but TT had spotted the talent....
Yea, I'd agree Tar. He sure seemed to be a player. I guess Jennings proved himself a bit more than Murphy did. I have no idea how Jones will be, he's getting panned bad by the press, but again, Murphy and moreso Jennings sure looked good so I'm thinking convensional wisdom might be out the door.
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I'm sure most on here would consider me an "anti-fan", but I'm an "other"...
As I've said, I think TT is a good talent evaluator, but he's very rigid in his approach, too rigid for my liking. Add to that his inexplicable approach to dealing with Walker - Wahle was at least justifiable in cap terms, even if I didn't agree with his stance or the end result.
Ultimately, I think TT is going to be one of these GM's who knows the game, knows good talent when he sees it, but ultimately is missing that intangible ingredient that would allow him to deviate from the master plan when necessary, and make possible the fleshing out of the roster with enough talent to win it all.
I fear that TT's approach will always be "win tomorrow"... meaning we will never "win now"; and, since AR is soon to be our starting QB, "win tomorrow" doesn't hold much promise either.wist
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