The Official ULTIMATE debate thread on TT!

[Tarlam!]

The fact that Woody is oblivious to our good fortune with TT doesn't surprise me()

Tarlam :

1. Just what are your qualifications to determine smartness on this board?

()[/b] would be a difficult challenge for you Tarlam.

Woody, reading your rant was actually, a waste of my time. And, writing it, a waste of yours. As a token of resepect, I read it anyway.

I am neither qualified to judge the Packers regime, nor am I qualified to judge what anybody posts here.

Yet, I have opinions, and, I air my opinions. My opinions will regard situations, or, posters' views of the same. It may come as a surprise to you, but I have an opinion about everything anybody says or does.

IMHO, you have taken a stance to slander TT at every opportunity. You will go out of your way to twist facts into (what I consider to be) warped realities, to get your opinion across. IMHO.

Nothing you say, challenges me. Not in the slightest. I am only challenged by sifting through your choice of grammar. Now, that is challenging. If you possessed the ability to deliver your rants' content into a few credible sentences, I for one, would be very impressed.

[PaCkFan_n_MD]

The fact that Woody is oblivious to our good fortune with TT doesn't surprise me()

Tarlam :

1. Just what are your qualifications to determine smartness on this board?

()[/b] would be a difficult challenge for you Tarlam.

Woody, reading your rant was actually, a waste of my time. And, writing it, a waste of yours. As a token of resepect, I read it anyway.

I am neither qualified to judge the Packers regime, nor am I qualified to judge what anybody posts here.

Yet, I have opinions, and, I air my opinions. My opinions will regard situations, or, posters' views of the same. It may come as a surprise to you, but I have an opinion about everything anybody says or does.

IMHO, you have taken a stance to slander TT at every opportunity. You will go out of your way to twist facts into (what I consider to be) warped realities, to get your opinion across. IMHO.

Nothing you say, challenges me. Not in the slightest. I am only challenged by sifting through your choice of grammar. Now, that is challenging. If you possessed the ability to deliver your rants' content into a few credible sentences, I for one, would be very impressed.

What is with the personal attacks man? If you don’t agree with Woody's opinion that is one thing, but to say he cant write and all that is unnecessary.

[Tarlam!]

What is with the personal attacks man? If you don’t agree with Woody's opinion that is one thing, but to say he cant write and all that is unnecessary.

Woody and I go back a long way. You need not defend him; He is well enough equiped to do that himself.

But, surely you're not suggesting he CAN write? Now, that is funny.

[RashanGary]

I've always thought Woodbuck was Tank and I still do in some ways. What 65 yr old canadian says a GM doesn't do DICK in an off season?

I have no problem with people getting on Tank because he loves it and it's more of a game for him. Is this Tank? Maybe not, but Woody is suspiciously stupid and that is what makes me think he's Tank or someone with similar motives.

[Bretsky]

I've always thought Woodbuck was Tank and I still do in some ways. What 65 yr old canadian says a GM doesn't do DICK in an off season?

I have no problem with people getting on Tank because he loves it and it's more of a game for him. Is this Tank? Maybe not, but Woody is suspiciously stupid and that is what makes me think he's Tank or someone with similar motives.

This Tank like intuition is absolutely untrue.

And I'd agree with anybody that notices bad vibes between posters and notes there is no good reason to insult another person beyond noting specific views. ..etc.

[The Shadow]

".......I really hate the way he has failed to support the talent of Brett Favre as his career winds down. That fact is shameful."

Shameful?
Not to me - in any way.
I like & admire Favre, but I love the Green Bay Packers.
I much prefer a contender built for the long haul over a slap dash
approach aimed at enhancing the glory of any single player.

[Bretsky]

".......I really hate the way he has failed to support the talent of Brett Favre as his career winds down. That fact is shameful."

Shameful?
Not to me - in any way.
I like & admire Favre, but I love the Green Bay Packers.
I much prefer a contender built for the long haul over a slap dash
approach aimed at enhancing the glory of any single player.

The day TT brings us a championship I'll be incredibly happy to admit you were right in your consistent support for everything TT does.

[PaCkFan_n_MD]

When it comes to the draft I give TT a "A", but when it comes to free agency I give him a "C." For example, in 2005 he drafted Collins, Murphy, Popp, and Underwood. All these players (except for Murphy of course) are long term starters IMO and that’s not even considering Rodgers. In 2006 he also got a lot of great players like Hawk, Collegde, Jennings, Splitz, Moll, Blackman and Jolly. I just named more good players in two of TT's drafts than all of Sherman’s drafts combined. I expect nothing less than at least three starters out of this past draft as well.

In Free agency TT is not that good IMO and this is were I start to have some problems with him.

In 2005.

I understand him not having the money to keep Sharper and not spending a lot of money on an old and often injured Rivera, but I really believe he should of tried harder to keep Whale. I think he only got 4 or 5 million a year with the panthers and with the cap going up the way it has I think he would he been will worth the money.

In 2006

Walker! I still hate that we lost a top ten WR for a 2nd round pick. I really believe TT should of just signed him to an extension that summer he wanted to new deal. He is just so good it sickens me to see him on another team. However, he also did sign Woodson (great one) and Pickett, which are both great additions.

In 2007

I know it was slim pickings but he should of brought in at least one guy who could complete for a starting job. Like how about TE!! Eric Johnson (I think that’s his name) would have been cheap and a good upgrade. Also, I would have really liked to keep AG.

Overall I give TT a "B."

[4and12to12and4]

I am a fan. Not a huge fan yet but I like the direction he's going in. In my opinion, his biggest mistake was not resigning Wahle.

I disagree, his handling of Javon Walker was his worst action as GM. He could have been more diplomatic and been able to keep him. It was poor team management to allow him t walk for the little to nothing we got back for him.

[RashanGary]

Walker held out from TC in 2005 demanding to get paid or traded. TT was a new GM and Drew Rosenhaus had a lot of momentum. Rosenhaus had made claims to "change the way the game is played" and he was about to take a shot at some fresh GM blood. TT held strong and Walker came in. He looked outstanding on that play when he got injured. He just tore away from the CB with explosion that even he hadn't shown before but the worste happened. He suffered a severe injury and all good will was GONE.

It got really ugly after that. I don't know that there was anything we could have done at that point.

[b bulldog]

I think alll sides involved would handle the Walker situation differently now.

[Scott Campbell]

I think alll sides involved would handle the Walker situation differently now.

I'm not sure the situation would have been handled any differently under anyone else's watch. If I remember correctly, the situation came to a head during the Sherman regime, and he wasn't able to resolve it either.

[GBRulz]

Re: traitor

Your just like a woman, you only understand what fits your opinion.

[woodbuck27]

I've always thought Woodbuck was Tank and I still do in some ways. What 65 yr old canadian says a GM doesn't do DICK in an off season?

I have no problem with people getting on Tank because he loves it and it's more of a game for him. Is this Tank? Maybe not, but Woody is suspiciously stupid and that is what makes me think he's Tank or someone with similar motives.

I am not TANK.

I have never posted here, on any other Packer or other football forum as other than woodbuck27.

I'm hardly in my own defense stupid JustinHarrel, unless responding with the likes of you may be interpreted as so.

You and Tarlam! may go on. You may judge me as you feel it's important to both you and as it's your nature's to do so. Fill your boots and make fools of yourselves.

I need not use the language in the form of adjectives, slurs or an otherwise negative tone to lower myself to your levels. Rather, I choose sympathy for you both (JustinHarrel and Tarlam!). A genuine compassion for the challenges that you both obviously are not merely condemned with and may overcome.

Ted Thompson.

I simply have decided that for reasons of observation and a lack of his inspiring me. . . I'm not on the TT bandwagon as yet and do hope one day to land there.

To this time I remain frustrated.

I'm a Packer fan first. As I see it. It's not our fortune to have Ted Thompson as our GM.

I simply have responded to the question of favor for, or against Ted Thompson as our GM.

If my personal response doesn't agree with you two fellas. That doesn't give you leeway to shit on me, attempt to insult me, flame me or otherwise discredit my personal observations and feelings regarding Ted Thompson.

[retailguy]

If my personal response doesn't agree with you two fellas. That doesn't give you leeway to shit on me, attempt to insult me, flame me or otherwise discredit my personal observations and feelings regarding Ted Thompson.

But.... They're part of the Kool-Aid goggle wearing majority. They can say anything they damn well please. So there.

You keep on chanting Woody. God love the minority opinion! We're all negative fools, but really, who gives a damn?