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    Here are 20 things the Packers don't need
    Posted: July 10, 2007

    Last year the entire league thought playing the Packers was a gimme. But after a terrible start, Green Bay went out and laid some wood, going 5-1 against the division.

    Winning their last four games to finish 8-8, the Packers are relying on a young roster and an aging quarterback to take another big step toward advancing to the playoffs. Optimism, as usual, is running high along the banks of the Fox.

    Maybe the Packers can close the gap between them and the division-favorite Chicago Bears. Maybe they can't.

    One thing for sure: Here are 20 things they don't need:

    1. Another woeful start. Nothing would deflate the optimism faster than following last year's script by losing four of the first five games. The schedule isn't doing the Packers any favors with games against the Eagles, at the New York Giants, the Chargers, at Minnesota, and the Bears to start the new season.

    2. No replacement for Green.
    Ahman Green was a proven running back for seven seasons with Green Bay, yet the Packers weren't willing to reward him for his efforts and they let him walk. They are left with a bushel of marginal backs trying to fill big shoes. Now that he's gone, the Packers will find out how valuable he was.

    3. Another No. 1 draft bust. Ted Thompson took a gamble drafting Tennessee defensive tackle Justin Harrell, whose résumé in 2006 was limited to only three games because of a torn biceps. He better not turn out like Ahmad Carroll, who never should have been a No. 1 pick in the first place and was cut after 2½ seasons at Green Bay.

    4. Same old scene at Lambeau Field. What ever happened to the mystique surrounding one of the great pro football venues? Strangely, Lambeau Field lost its magic touch when it was renovated in 2003. The Packers were 3-5 at home last year. Since going 8-0 in 2002, they are 15-17 in Green Bay, which is no way to contend.

    5. Brett Favre's streak ends. The worst thing that could happen to the Packers would be for Mr. Durability to get hurt. He's still has the arm, the toughness and is the leader of this team. Without Favre, the Packers are in big trouble. Aaron Rodgers may or may not be the quarterback of the future. Because of limited play, no one is sure if he can do it or not.

    6. Andy Reid out-coaches Mike McCarthy. If any rival coach knows the Packers, it's Reid who was on Mike Holmgren's staff and was Favre's quarterbacks coach. After losing four-consecutive games to Reid's Eagles, McCarthy's team was in a position to stage a major upset last season at Philadelphia. The Packers played a solid, smart first half and left with a 9-7 lead. But in the second half, they collapsed on both offense and defense, losing, 31-9. They meet again in the league opener at Lambeau Sept. 9.

    7. John Jones goes public. Citing his side of the story when he was dismissed as the successor to president and CEO Bob Harlan, Jones hangs out his dirty linen, exposing cracks in the Packers' front office. If this happens, it will go down as the most embarrassing episode in the team's administrative history.

    8. McCarthy gets carried away. Before facing their archrivals at home last year, the new coach, inheriting a 4-12 team, was asked if his club would put out a strong emotional effort against the Chicago Bears. It was the home opener, alumni week, against the opponent picked to win the division crown. McCarthy guaranteed the Packers would be ready. Ready for what? The Packers lost, 26-0, and all of those negative emotions quickly settled in.

    9. Donald Driver is overloaded. The belief is the Packers have a good corps of receivers. The reality: Driver is the only star. He has meant everything to an offense that doesn't have enough playmakers. Driver certainly needs others to help punch up the team's passing attack. If he goes down, it could be disastrous for Favre.

    10. A Mile-High low. The Packers travel to Denver for a Halloween night game against the Broncos. Make that two nights before Halloween. The Packers will be looking for their first victory in the Mile-High city. Their 0-5 mark (0-10) counting exhibition games), includes a 31-10 beating in 1999. This game also will mark former Packers' wide receiver Javon Walker's first game against his former team. Will he come back to haunt them?

    11. Special teams woes. Sometime this season, someone is going to make a big play on special teams. It might be a punt return for a touchdown. Whatever it is, the odds are it will be the Packers' opponents making the play. The Packers haven't had a great punt returner since Desmond Howard ran wild in 1996, and the search still is on.

    12. Losing to the Lions at home. Be wary of what you wish for, Packers. The Lions come to town Dec. 30 and will be looking for their first victory on Wisconsin soil since 1991. The Packers have won 16 in a row, but the last three have been decided by an average of fewer than five points.

    13. Brett puts foot in mouth. Eternally optimistic, Favre stunned a room of reporters in his first training-camp interview last summer when he told them the 2006 Packers, a group that eventually would feature 27 rookies or second-year players, was the most talented group he has played with. Surely, he won't go out on a limb this time until these guys have proved themselves.

    14. Sophomore jinx. Fifteen rookies made the team last season, including linebacker A.J. Hawk, wide receiver Greg Jennings, guards Daryn Colledge and Jason Spitz - all starters. All played well and showed great promise, but will they continue to grow?

    15. Bubba Franks doesn't have it. Once he was one of the best tight ends in the league. No more. The team's former No. 1 draft choice hasn't been the same player after signing a huge contract two years ago. He needs to prove he's still a productive player or he's gone.

    16. Nobody will catch the Bears. They won the NFC North by five games, the widest margin for a division champion in the NFL. They aren't quite the heavy favorite they were a year ago but still better than the rest.

    17. Pre-season injuries. It isn't a pre-season as much as a minefield. The primary goal of every team is to get through it intact. The scene no one wants to see played out is a starter going down for the year. So what's being done to avoid this? Fingers are being crossed.

    18. It's Ryan Longwell's turn. The last three Packers-Vikings regular season games at Lambeau Field have been decided by a kicker. The Packers edged the Vikings, 9-7, last Dec. 21 when rookie Dave Rayner kicked a 44-yard field goal off the rain-slicked turf with 1:34 remaining. The teams will meet Nov. 11 at Lambeau and Longwell, who left Green Bay for Minnesota last year, will kick the winning field goal.

    19. Texas Stadium woes. Having made regular trips to Dallas in the 1990s, the Packers return to one of their most hated venues where playoff runs in three consecutive seasons (1993-'95) ended in disappointment to Troy Aikman and Co. Assuming he remains the Cowboys' starting quarterback, Tony Romo, a native of Burlington, Wis., will face his home-state team for the first time.

    20. A letter of apology from the league office. This is the last thing the Packers want. Officials make mistakes. But what good is a letter of apology after a blown call - a call that could have turned into a victory?
    TERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWER

  • #2
    Crying

    Damn, after reading all of this stuff, my tankard of kool-aid spiked with rum has run dry. Thanks for reminding me of what a bleak disaster this season has the potential to become........

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    • #3
      Re: Crying

      Originally posted by Packnut
      Damn, after reading all of this stuff, my tankard of kool-aid spiked with rum has run dry. Thanks for reminding me of what a bleak disaster this season has the potential to become........
      We will have none of that here!!!! :P

      And yeah....weren't you the one that ran dry during the draft or some important game last season and hiked to the liquor store for more goods? Don't let that sweet kool-aid run dry!!!!

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      • #4
        Valid but grim observations - time for another beer to dull any potential pain from dwelling on this too much
        60% of the time it works every time.

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        • #5
          18. It's Ryan Longwell's turn. The last three Packers-Vikings regular season games at Lambeau Field have been decided by a kicker. The Packers edged the Vikings, 9-7, last Dec. 21 when rookie Dave Rayner kicked a 44-yard field goal off the rain-slicked turf with 1:34 remaining. The teams will meet Nov. 11 at Lambeau and Longwell, who left Green Bay for Minnesota last year, will kick the winning field goal.
          Kind of a bold prediction, don't ya think?. It's a stretch to say Longwell will kick the winning FG, even if it's possible that he might.

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          • #6
            All I have to say is B better be posting "The 20 great things about the Packers 2007" tomorrow!!!!!!!
            :P

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            • #7
              Reminder: most of the so-called optimists predicted 8 or 9 victories last year (I believe I predicted 8-8). Most of the so-called pessimists predicted 4 or 5 victories. The Packers finished 8-8. Again, just a friendly reminder.
              "There's a lot of interest in the draft. It's great. But quite frankly, most of the people that are commenting on it don't know anything about what they are talking about."--Ted Thompson

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              • #8
                Originally posted by HarveyWallbangers
                Reminder: most of the so-called optimists predicted 8 or 9 victories last year (I believe I predicted 8-8). Most of the so-called pessimists predicted 4 or 5 victories. The Packers finished 8-8. Again, just a friendly reminder.
                I predicted 6-10 last year. I was saying 9-7 at this time but I backed it down to 6-10 after the preseason.

                This year I'm 9-7 again. Let's hope they don't disappoint in the preseason again. I NEED to see a running game and I'll stick to my 9-7.
                Formerly known as JustinHarrell.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by HarveyWallbangers
                  Reminder: most of the so-called optimists predicted 8 or 9 victories last year (I believe I predicted 8-8). Most of the so-called pessimists predicted 4 or 5 victories. The Packers finished 8-8. Again, just a friendly reminder.
                  Yes Harv, but very wise people on this forum have assured me that although the record said 8-8, the Packers were really a 4-12 team.
                  I can't run no more
                  With that lawless crowd
                  While the killers in high places
                  Say their prayers out loud
                  But they've summoned, they've summoned up
                  A thundercloud
                  They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by GrnBay007
                    All I have to say is B better be posting "The 20 great things about the Packers 2007" tomorrow!!!!!!!
                    :P

                    I want to point out to everybody that I did NOT write this; this was an article from JS
                    TERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWER

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by HarveyWallbangers
                      Reminder: most of the so-called optimists predicted 8 or 9 victories last year (I believe I predicted 8-8). Most of the so-called pessimists predicted 4 or 5 victories. The Packers finished 8-8. Again, just a friendly reminder.

                      I often get blamed for pessimism, but I predicted 7-9 last year. The true doom and gloomers were calling four to five wins, but last year we were a bit below average and my gut tells me we are the same this year.
                      TERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWER

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                      • #12
                        Re: Crying

                        Originally posted by GrnBay007
                        Originally posted by Packnut
                        Damn, after reading all of this stuff, my tankard of kool-aid spiked with rum has run dry. Thanks for reminding me of what a bleak disaster this season has the potential to become........
                        We will have none of that here!!!! :P

                        And yeah....weren't you the one that ran dry during the draft or some important game last season and hiked to the liquor store for more goods? Don't let that sweet kool-aid run dry!!!!


                        I think you mis-understood. Any alcohol I consume is for medicinal purposes only.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Bretsky
                          Originally posted by HarveyWallbangers
                          Reminder: most of the so-called optimists predicted 8 or 9 victories last year (I believe I predicted 8-8). Most of the so-called pessimists predicted 4 or 5 victories. The Packers finished 8-8. Again, just a friendly reminder.

                          I often get blamed for pessimism, but I predicted 7-9 last year. The true doom and gloomers were calling four to five wins, but last year we were a bit below average and my gut tells me we are the same this year.

                          There certainly is a load to think about there.

                          I also predicted a 7-9 record but I hoped our receiving core (including TE's)would be more productive than what I saw. Still we went 8-8. and 5-1 in our division.

                          I'm not at all sure what we have as WR's this season.I see diddly at TE and FB.

                          The experience level required all round, on an assignment sure basis at RB is zilch,

                          All that combined doesn't offer me a lot of optimism. How will we score?

                          I believe that record (5-1) in the NFCN will be difficult to duplicate. I believe that we will start slow because the SOS in the first five games is brutal. If we defeat the Vikings but start 1-4. To get to the playoff's we should at least expect to be 8-8.

                          That means we have to go 7-4 in the remainder of our schedule.

                          We face Carolina (they will rebound in 2007) and ( Denver,KC and Dallas . .all at their house) in those 11 games.

                          All very difficult opponents.

                          YES !! We must have a quick start in our schedule.

                          Now back up. Look at those first five games.

                          All of those 20 points smack me in the chops. I can't fool myself into believing that they arn't legitimate concerns to consider. There is litle there I havn't thought of in this off season.

                          I don't want to be a pessismist or cynical. I don't want to piss on anyone's parade. I have real concerns as a Packer fan. I've had them for three seasons now and that frustrates me.

                          I'm positive there are some here that came up with all 20 concerns in this list.

                          We have a real load this season.

                          I just don't want to see the Packers get crushed.

                          GO PACKERS !!
                          ** Since 2006 3 X Pro Pickem' Champion; 4 X Runner-Up and 3 X 3rd place.
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                          • #14
                            Re: 20 THINGS THE PACKERS DO NOT NEED

                            Originally posted by Bretsky
                            2. No replacement for Green.[/u] Ahman Green was a proven running back for seven seasons with Green Bay, yet the Packers weren't willing to reward him for his efforts and they let him walk. They are left with a bushel of marginal backs trying to fill big shoes. Now that he's gone, the Packers will find out how valuable he was.
                            It's possible that Morency will have a better season than Green. I wouldn't predict it, but I see age on Green, and Morency has some talent.

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                            • #15
                              The whole "magic at Lambeau" crap makes me laugh. The only "magic" that ever happened to make the Pack so good at home back in the day was the talent they'd assembled. You impropve the talent level and the magic will return.

                              I'll try to inject one note of optimism: the Pack finished strong last year despite Mr. Favre throwing lots o' picks in the last five games. If he can just be solid and not try to do it all, then maybe the defense and the improved offensive line can help the team out.

                              Last year I said 7-9. I'll wait til the end of training camp to make my predicition for this year.
                              "The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."

                              KYPack

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