Mike Vick Indicted

[BEARMAN]

Vick is a thug, once a thug, always a thug.

[RashanGary]

Vick is a thug, once a thug, always a thug.

A bears fan, a vikings fan and a bunch of Packer fans all in agreement. . .

[GrnBay007]

Read the indictments for "Ookie" and his friends, pretty sick shit. People have been raising dogs to fight for a very long time but most do not treat their animals anything like this and I was surprised they found so many dead dogs on the property. Vick is done. Goodell is going to have to do something soon. The Feds did their homework on this one and the odds of him getting off are pretty slim. But you never know...anything can happen in court.

It will be interesting to see what Goodell does; I don't think he wants anything to do with this until Vick is found guilty, but who knows.

Keep in mind he hasn't been charged with anything yet. He's being indicted to determine if there is enough evidence to charge him. I would think if they find enough evidence to charge him (which I would be surprised if they don't), his goose is cooked. Federal charges always seem to bring much tougher sentences than State. I would think Goodwell will at least wait to see what they decide on charges before he does anything. At that point his suspension from the NFL will probably be the least of his concerns.

[Freak Out]

Read the indictments for "Ookie" and his friends, pretty sick shit. People have been raising dogs to fight for a very long time but most do not treat their animals anything like this and I was surprised they found so many dead dogs on the property. Vick is done. Goodell is going to have to do something soon. The Feds did their homework on this one and the odds of him getting off are pretty slim. But you never know...anything can happen in court.

It will be interesting to see what Goodell does; I don't think he wants anything to do with this until Vick is found guilty, but who knows.

Keep in mind he hasn't been charged with anything yet. He's being indicted to determine if there is enough evidence to charge him. I would think if they find enough evidence to charge him (which I would be surprised if they don't), his goose is cooked. Federal charges always seem to bring much tougher sentences than State. I would think Goodwell will at least wait to see what they decide on charges before he does anything. At that point his suspension from the NFL will probably be the least of his concerns.

He has been charged. The grand jury found enough evidence to send it to court.

[Scott Campbell]

Until he is found guilty, we need to give Vick the benefit of the doubt. As a society, we owe it to him.

Hey Perry Mason, this ain't a courtroom. I don't appreciate you telling me what we "owe" Mike Vick. Speak for yourself.

I am not defending Vick. I am praising the Constitution of The United States of America.

The Constitution of the United States does not govern the court of public opinion. Read it again if you don't believe me.

My Consitution provides freedom of speech, and I will exersize that freedom to tell you this. I think the only thing I "owe" Mike Vick is a round of applause when he gets a more intimate taste of his rape stand while he's in jail.

[GrnBay007]

Read the indictments for "Ookie" and his friends, pretty sick shit. People have been raising dogs to fight for a very long time but most do not treat their animals anything like this and I was surprised they found so many dead dogs on the property. Vick is done. Goodell is going to have to do something soon. The Feds did their homework on this one and the odds of him getting off are pretty slim. But you never know...anything can happen in court.

It will be interesting to see what Goodell does; I don't think he wants anything to do with this until Vick is found guilty, but who knows.

Keep in mind he hasn't been charged with anything yet. He's being indicted to determine if there is enough evidence to charge him. I would think if they find enough evidence to charge him (which I would be surprised if they don't), his goose is cooked. Federal charges always seem to bring much tougher sentences than State. I would think Goodwell will at least wait to see what they decide on charges before he does anything. At that point his suspension from the NFL will probably be the least of his concerns.

He has been charged. The grand jury found enough evidence to send it to court.

Guess I missed the whole part where the evidence was brought before the grand jury. Damn job! I miss out on all kinds of stuff. Oh well.....if that's the case, Goodwell should be doing something now. IMO

[GrnBay007]

I think the only thing I "owe" Mike Vick is a good ass kicking.

At the very minimum!

[RashanGary]

He may be not guilty but if I were a betting man, I'd say this scumbag was up to his ears in this cruel bullshit.

Great quote Ras. . . .

[Bretsky]

Read the indictments for "Ookie" and his friends, pretty sick shit. People have been raising dogs to fight for a very long time but most do not treat their animals anything like this and I was surprised they found so many dead dogs on the property. Vick is done. Goodell is going to have to do something soon. The Feds did their homework on this one and the odds of him getting off are pretty slim. But you never know...anything can happen in court.

It will be interesting to see what Goodell does; I don't think he wants anything to do with this until Vick is found guilty, but who knows.

Keep in mind he hasn't been charged with anything yet. He's being indicted to determine if there is enough evidence to charge him. I would think if they find enough evidence to charge him (which I would be surprised if they don't), his goose is cooked. Federal charges always seem to bring much tougher sentences than State. I would think Goodwell will at least wait to see what they decide on charges before he does anything. At that point his suspension from the NFL will probably be the least of his concerns.

He has been charged. The grand jury found enough evidence to send it to court.

Guess I missed the whole part where the evidence was brought before the grand jury. Damn job! I miss out on all kinds of stuff. Oh well.....if that's the case, Goodwell should be doing something now. IMO

It's ok, you are blonde

The other day, after discussing colors of hair, I asked my three year old if she has dad's smarts or mom's smarts. She Replied

"I don't have smarts. My hair is Yellow"

[GrnBay007]

Read the indictments for "Ookie" and his friends, pretty sick shit. People have been raising dogs to fight for a very long time but most do not treat their animals anything like this and I was surprised they found so many dead dogs on the property. Vick is done. Goodell is going to have to do something soon. The Feds did their homework on this one and the odds of him getting off are pretty slim. But you never know...anything can happen in court.

It will be interesting to see what Goodell does; I don't think he wants anything to do with this until Vick is found guilty, but who knows.

Keep in mind he hasn't been charged with anything yet. He's being indicted to determine if there is enough evidence to charge him. I would think if they find enough evidence to charge him (which I would be surprised if they don't), his goose is cooked. Federal charges always seem to bring much tougher sentences than State. I would think Goodwell will at least wait to see what they decide on charges before he does anything. At that point his suspension from the NFL will probably be the least of his concerns.

He has been charged. The grand jury found enough evidence to send it to court.

Guess I missed the whole part where the evidence was brought before the grand jury. Damn job! I miss out on all kinds of stuff. Oh well.....if that's the case, Goodwell should be doing something now. IMO

It's ok, you are blonde

The other day, after discussing colors of hair, I asked my three year old if she has dad's smarts or mom's smarts. She Replied

"I don't have smarts. My hair is Yellow"

No, it's OK because I really don't care about Ron Mexico!

[KYPack]

Who in their right mind would buy a ticket to see this bum play?

The NFL has to get this PR nightmare out of the league quiclky.

As a dog owner/lover, I can't fathom how any person would treat an animal that only wants to please humans so terribly.

Harlan, you seem a little lukewarm in the defense of your four footed brothers.

[BallHawk]

Vick is a thug, once a thug, always a thug.

A bears fan, a vikings fan and a bunch of Packer fans all in agreement. . .

Now we just need a Lions fan and we've hit the quadrifecta and we've made history

Anybody know any Lions fans? I sure as hell don't.

[Scott Campbell]

Harlan, you seem a little lukewarm in the defense of your four footed brothers.

Maybe not. He might just enjoy playing the role of contrarian. Not that I'd know.

[Fosco33]

Awhile back, there was an interview on TV where they said Vick was one of the 'big dogs' and would consistently bet large sums of cold hard cash on the fights (he'd take bets on his dogs).

The prosecutors need to find and plea bargain some of these eye witnesses as well as trace the purchases to Vick (seems they've done some of this already).

Hard pill to swallow - but actions will invariably catch up and the easy life you led can easily turn if these actions were negative.

"the name is Du-Mass"

[RashanGary]

I see HH's point as far as where do you draw the line. I think it's sick and wrong but at the same time people wound and slowly kill deer with arrows that often times miss the target. People rip hooks out of a fishes mouth and sometimes guts. It's always a grey line with the law.

I personally beleive you should be able to do whatever you please as long as it doesn't hurt others. I'm beginning to extend that beyond the life of just people. Life is life. We live here in harmony with our surroundings. We should not hurt it unless needed IMO.

I've gone hunting and fishing. I've shot one deer and it didn't feel good. Honestly, the thing just looked at me and I shot it straight through the chest. It curled up as I shot it and then jumped. It ran away and blead to death. I didn't feel good about that at all. I went hunting the next year and let a 6 point buck go. I could have shot it, I just got no pleasure in killing the thing. If I was reallly hungry and needed it, it would be different but to just kill the thing to kill it felt wrong to me after experiencing killing one the year before.

I don't know, I think it feels awfull and wrong but until we start protecting all life from torturous acts, HH and Portis certainly have a point. Why this but not that? Dog fighting seems to be a bit of a ghetto culture. Some black guy was on 107.5 this morning saying he's been to dog fights and it is a great party. He said there were white women, black women, it was a rush. He said Vick did it becuase "You can take the guy out of the ghetto but you can't take the ghetto out of the guy". He was just some caller. It's their tradition. We might not understand it and we might feel all cozy for a dog but I assure you, if you saw a gentle animal look you in the eye as you pulled the trigger killing it, you'd feel similar about a deer yet we have no laws against that. There is definitly a grey line here.