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    Doug Burris, a lifelong Green Bay Packers fan, paid for his season tickets in May. He sent the team a check — for $147,000.

    The most popular couple in Shawano, Wis: Doug Burris and his wife, Beverly, have over the years accumulated 331 season tickets to Green Bay Packers games at Lambeau Field.

    “I’ve been a Packers fan since the team played at the old City Stadium back in the 1950s,” said Burris, 67, who lives in Shawano, Wis. “Whenever the Packers played, I wanted to be there.”

    These days, he can take 330 people with him.

    Burris, a land developer, owns quite a bit of real estate at Lambeau Field, 331 season tickets, which makes him the most popular man in Shawano — population 8,730 — especially at this time of year. The Packers, who open training camp Saturday, have a waiting list for season tickets of 74,500 fans. Lambeau Field seats 72,928, according to the team.

    “Pretty soon, the phone will start ringing again nonstop,” Burris said. “When business is really popping, I’ll get between 40 and 50 calls a day.”

    When Lambeau Field, then known as the new City Stadium, opened on the west side of Green Bay in 1957, a bistro in Shawano named Stan & Bud’s, which had distributed tickets for the team since the 1920s, bought 350 season tickets.

    In 1980 Burris purchased four tickets from Stan & Bud’s. Eleven years later, he purchased Stan & Bud’s.

    As part of the deal to buy the bistro, which is now called The Home Stretch, Burris received 331 of the 350 tickets controlled by the previous owners.

    “The tickets were the reason I bought the place,” Burris said. “As deals go, it wasn’t a bad one.”

    Burris, a father of five who has been married to his wife, Beverly, for 37 years, said he enjoyed doing business with an extended family of Packers fans who live in New York, Florida, Georgia, Indiana, South Dakota, Michigan, Iowa and Texas, and any other state with transplanted cheeseheads.

    “I don’t advertise, it’s all word-of-mouth,” said Burris, who charges anywhere from $140 to $500 a ticket depending on Green Bay’s opponent. “There are a lot of Packers fans out there, so I never have to worry about tickets going unsold.”

    Six years ago, Packers season-ticket holders were asked to pay a one-time fee of $1,400 a ticket to cover the cost of renovating Lambeau Field. Fans that did not pay the fee had their season tickets revoked.

    That year, Burris sent the Packers a check for the one-time fee of $463,400, spreading the cost among his clientele. “Mostly all of my customers paid the fee,” he said. “People who didn’t were quickly replaced.”

    Burris’s seats sell at face values of $59 (end zone), $64 (end zone to the 20-yard line) and $69 (from the 20 toward the center of the field). For the tickets he sets aside to sell on a week-to-week basis, customers, including his children and five grandchildren, have until a week before game time to decide on purchasing tickets before they are offered to someone next in line.

    “It’s a business,” he said. “My kids understand that.”

    Doug Nicholson, the owner of the Ivanhoe Pub & Eatery in Racine, Wis., has purchased large amounts of tickets from Burris the past five years. Nicholson purchased 50 tickets — at $140 a ticket — for the home finale Dec. 30 against the Detroit Lions.

    “I’ll raffle off the tickets during the season, and those who win will all go to the game together by bus,” Nicholson said. “Everyone wants those tickets because it could be Brett Favre’s last game.”

    In recent years, Burris has fielded several offers for his entire ticket package, including a $1 million offer from the owner of a sports bar in Green Bay. Burris turned him down.

    “The one-time fee I paid is refundable to anyone who gives back their season tickets, so that meant the offer was really more like a half-million dollars,” he said.

    “It doesn’t matter anyway, because I’m a die-hard Packers fan, and I worked too hard to get my tickets to ever want to give them up.”

  • #2
    I remember this guy on an interview back when the renovation was going on and the ticket holders had to pay the $1400 per ticket license. He was totally whining about it.

    The article says he charges anywhere from $100 - $500 per ticket. So, let's say on average he makes $100 per ticket each game. Each game he makes over $350k x 10 games = 3.5 mil a year in profit.

    I don't know what others think, but I see way too many season ticket holders who simply have their tickets to churn a profit. They don't even attend games. That is their right, but is it right for 1 person to have 300+ season tickets? Especially when there are only about 16,000 season tickets to go around? The rest of the seats go to the media, visiting team, the NFL, etc.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by GBRulz
      I remember this guy on an interview back when the renovation was going on and the ticket holders had to pay the $1400 per ticket license. He was totally whining about it.

      The article says he charges anywhere from $100 - $500 per ticket. So, let's say on average he makes $100 per ticket each game. Each game he makes over $350k x 10 games = 3.5 mil a year in profit.

      I don't know what others think, but I see way too many season ticket holders who simply have their tickets to churn a profit. They don't even attend games. That is their right, but is it right for 1 person to have 300+ season tickets? Especially when there are only about 16,000 season tickets to go around? The rest of the seats go to the media, visiting team, the NFL, etc.
      Why is this not considered scalping?

      Guess I'm jealous of anyone who has 1 ticket, let alone 300+, seems a bit greedy.

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      • #4
        well, PIP, it is scalping, but there are no laws against that. Unless you are on the Lambeau grounds, that is. Ticket scalping in the City of GB is illegal. Which is why you find all your ticket scalpers across the street in "scalpers alley", which is Ashwaubenon. No scalping laws there.

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        • #5
          ***sigh*** I guess when you ask yourself who you gotta sleep with to get tickets to the game, you now have your answer. I thought he said he charges face value for the tickets and any extra money was supposed to pay for the seat licenses...that's just how I read it, but I agree with GBR. I hate it when people have season tickets for no other reason than just to make a buck. They should have a limit on the number of seats one person can hold.
          "Greatness is not an act... but a habit.Greatness is not an act... but a habit." -Greg Jennings

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          • #6
            Originally posted by MJZiggy
            They should have a limit on the number of seats one person can hold.
            Totally agree. Let the actual fans see the games.
            "I've got one word for you- Dallas, Texas, Super Bowl"- Jermichael Finley

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            • #7
              Originally posted by BallHawk
              Originally posted by MJZiggy
              They should have a limit on the number of seats one person can hold.
              Totally agree. Let the actual fans see the games.
              You're not suggesting non-fans pay for high priced tickets and go to games??

              J/K.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Tarlam!
                Originally posted by BallHawk
                Originally posted by MJZiggy
                They should have a limit on the number of seats one person can hold.
                Totally agree. Let the actual fans see the games.
                You're not suggesting non-fans pay for high priced tickets and go to games??

                J/K.
                Actual fans are going...they're just now paying "market price".

                Problem is, via arbitrage, the middle man is making all the profits. If people are going to pay that much to go to the games, I'd much rather see the team pocket the difference and stash it in the reserve fund. Just in case revenue sharing one day goes "poof".
                Busting drunk drivers in Antarctica since 2006

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                • #9
                  Falco, this arbitrage will never disappear....

                  Not unless the Pack raise ticket prices to the black market price. Even then, I doubt it will work.

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                  • #10
                    Maybe we should all buy some tickets from this guy, then get really rowdy and kicked out of the game causing the guy to have his tickets revoked

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by MJZiggy
                      ***sigh*** I guess when you ask yourself who you gotta sleep with to get tickets to the game, you now have your answer. I thought he said he charges face value for the tickets and any extra money was supposed to pay for the seat licenses...that's just how I read it, but I agree with GBR. I hate it when people have season tickets for no other reason than just to make a buck. They should have a limit on the number of seats one person can hold.
                      The article confused me. One part said he charges $100-$500 depending upon the game. Then it said he charges face value in another paragraph.

                      I assumed that he already had the people pay for the seat license back when he was originally charged for it. Whatever the case may be, that seat license was more than paid for about halfway through the first season after the renovation.

                      BTW, totally off-topic here.... that security wall or whatever u call it is going to look really nice once it's done. Lots of nice planters and walls that compliment the stadium nicely. Also, it looks like the construction on Lombardi Ave is a couple weeks from completion...THANK GOD. but man, will it be nice once it's done.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by GBRulz
                        well, PIP, it is scalping, but there are no laws against that. Unless you are on the Lambeau grounds, that is. Ticket scalping in the City of GB is illegal. Which is why you find all your ticket scalpers across the street in "scalpers alley", which is Ashwaubenon. No scalping laws there.
                        Very interesting post. I never understood why they were over there. Thanks for clearing that up for me. I didn't realize that was considered Ashwaubenon. Learn something every day. Thanks.
                        "...one thing about me during the course of a game, I get emotional and say things my grandmother lets me know about later. But nobody wants to win on that field anymore than I do, no one." Brett Favre

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by falco
                          Originally posted by Tarlam!
                          Originally posted by BallHawk
                          Originally posted by MJZiggy
                          They should have a limit on the number of seats one person can hold.
                          Totally agree. Let the actual fans see the games.
                          You're not suggesting non-fans pay for high priced tickets and go to games??

                          J/K.
                          Actual fans are going...they're just now paying "market price".

                          Problem is, via arbitrage, the middle man is making all the profits. If people are going to pay that much to go to the games, I'd much rather see the team pocket the difference and stash it in the reserve fund. Just in case revenue sharing one day goes "poof".
                          Not a bad idea but will never happen.

                          I agree that it's not fair to fans that are waiting forever to get even 1 season ticket. I'm trying to go to the GB vs SD game and will end up paying around $250-300 for my ticket. Last year I paid $300. I love my Packers and others like me help people this guy make a good chunk of change.

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                          • #14
                            What's the difference between this man making some $$, and the legit businesses like Packerfantours charging what they do? I paid close to $300 for the tickets I got thru them last year. $295 this year.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by GBRulz
                              Maybe we should all buy some tickets from this guy, then get really rowdy and kicked out of the game causing the guy to have his tickets revoked
                              See, this is brilliance. I was all outraged about the guy and was thinking how you could try to legislate the problem away, but this is far more elegant and effective. Plus, we'd have a blast gettin' booted, especially if Madtown brought some of his boys to assist in the rowdieness. Everybody wins!

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