ESPN INSIDER : Packers camp preview

[Rastak]

Shiancoe is at least going to play. A lot. Same with Bobby Wade.

Are they going to play really, really well and become unstoppable at their positions?

Highly unlikely but that isn't the question nor the team this thread is taking about. The original question is did the Packers upgrade their offense?

[retailguy]

Shiancoe is at least going to play. A lot. Same with Bobby Wade.

Are they going to play really, really well and become unstoppable at their positions?

Highly unlikely but that isn't the question nor the team this thread is taking about. The original question is did the Packers upgrade their offense?

Rastak, haven't you figured out that the ole' duck and dodge is how you keep the "negative minority" from actually making a point?

[Rastak]

Shiancoe is at least going to play. A lot. Same with Bobby Wade.

Are they going to play really, really well and become unstoppable at their positions?

Highly unlikely but that isn't the question nor the team this thread is taking about. The original question is did the Packers upgrade their offense?

Rastak, haven't you figured out that the ole' duck and dodge is how you keep the "negative minority" from actually making a point?

No kidding. I wasn't even ripping on the pack, only pointing out that the original author had a defensible point.

[retailguy]

No kidding. I wasn't even ripping on the pack, only pointing out that the original author had a defensible point.

As much as it pains me to admit it, I agree with you. Of course, as a fan, I don't want to hear it in July, but this team could really stink. Also, the Vikings could really stink too, and you probably don't want to hear that in July either.

Props to the guy who wrote the story for having the balls to actually admit his point of view AND to write it down. It would be much easier and safer to laud Thompson for being the NFL's best drafter today....

[Rastak]

No kidding. I wasn't even ripping on the pack, only pointing out that the original author had a defensible point.

As much as it pains me to admit it, I agree with you. Of course, as a fan, I don't want to hear it in July, but this team could really stink. Also, the Vikings could really stink too, and you probably don't want to hear that in July either.

Props to the guy who wrote the story for having the balls to actually admit his point of view AND to write it down. It would be much easier and safer to laud Thompson for being the NFL's best drafter today....

I just read a chat on ESPN and they weren't real kind to either team

Rizzo ( WI ): What do you make of GB drafting Harrell and who will be better RB, Morency or Jackson ?? It pains me that those are the two options... Thanks

Matt Williamson: It should pain you, as should the WR and especially the TE position in GBay. I do like Harrell though and GBay is in the process of building a terrific D-led by Hawk and Barnett. Great fantasy sleeper D too by the way. BUT, the O is a wreck and your boy #4 is declining. Of the two, Jackson has much more upside and I expect him to get more and more touches as the season progresses.

Nate (DC): Falcons, 1st pick in the draft?...don't you mean the Vikings!

Matt Williamson: The Vikes certainly have a shot at that honor, but I like their D much more than ATLs.

Chris (Kaneohe, HI): Do you think that the minnesota one-two punch, could open up the passing game?

Matt Williamson: No. Minny will face 8 and 9 in the box play after play after play. Who scares you as a pass catcher? Make the QB beat you.

[HarveyWallbangers]

Out of curiosity Harv, how did the Vikings even get into this conversation?

That was WAY outside of the points I was making.

I brought them up to show how ludicrous the statement is... comparing it to something you could relate to. I wasn't saying the Vikings did nothing. Saying the Packers did nothing to upgrade WR and RB is like saying the Vikings did nothing to upgrade WR and DE (two of their positions of need).

[HarveyWallbangers]

Seriously.... They will help the Vikings a hell of a lot more than Frank Walker and NOBODY ELSE will help us, that's for damn sure....

Really? Doubtful, but anything is possible. They are paying them starter's money, at least. We weren't talking about overall FAs, so follow along here. The point is whether investing two of your top three draft picks (first day picks) and three of your top five draft picks on RB and WR is doing little to address THOSE positions. TE? We did nothing. S? We did little--unless Underwood or the 3rd round pick steps up. I'd say that the Packers attempted to address RB and WR. Whether those players pan out, nobody knows.