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Whittle is just a body. If he's starting, the team is in trouble, IMHO. I think Hicks can be a starter, but probably not a great one. The leftside is awesome. Marcus Johnson has good potential. The last starting spot is a crapshoot, but so is Green Bay's interior OL.
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"There's a lot of interest in the draft. It's great. But quite frankly, most of the people that are commenting on it don't know anything about what they are talking about."--Ted Thompson -
HA! It took a couple of gallons of Kool-aid to calm you down about the pick.Originally posted by HarveyWallbangersComment
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No, that was Bretsky. I was the guy trying to calm everybody down about him after I read Rick Gosselin's take on him. I was one of those to say let's take a wait and see approach on him. Remember I was the guy who made the comparison to Rashean Mathis (another Bethune-Cookman graduate who turned into an excellent corner immediately). Don't try to twist it any differently.Originally posted by MadtownPacker"There's a lot of interest in the draft. It's great. But quite frankly, most of the people that are commenting on it don't know anything about what they are talking about."--Ted ThompsonComment
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Man your gonna force me to go look it up on the junkyard JSO. You where not happy the first day but felt better after acouple of CC if Green KoolAid.Originally posted by HarveyWallbangersComment
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The biggest reach i thought of were, the buffalo first rounders, Donte Whitner, and John Mcargo. Whitner is good, but they coulda traded down and got him, but im not huge on McargoComment
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Greenway and Griffin are great picks. Jackson I don't know alot about but they needed a QB and the ones they liked earlier were gone so they had to take this guy if they thought he was next on their list. Jaworski actually raved about this guy and Childress is supposed to be a good QB teacher. So we'll see on that one. The other guys filled in depth and potential. Reaches? Maybe. I would say that they have a little more freedom to choose projects than say the Packers do. Whittle was only signed to be a backup at all line positions and Childress stated that. Cook is a backup this year at C and T. My guess is that he will eventually be a T because of his height. Blue was not a bad pick, but some people thought he might as he is being pegged as an LB and he didn't play that in college. On a side note, I thought the Packer's draft was good, not great. Definitely better than the past few years. And I really liked what the Jets did.Comment
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I heard that Denver was working the phones to try and move ahead of Arizona to get Lienart. Why oh why didn't Buffalo trade down and get a couple of more picks to move down and get Whitner at 15? Bad draft management.
It is called targeting a player regardless of draft position.Comment
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This was on Broncos.com, I edited for the stuff we care about:Originally posted by Nutz
SHANAHAN PRESS CONFERENCE
CONFERENCE CALLS: CUTLER | SCHEFFLER
The Walker deal came together while the Broncos were on the clock with the 37th pick, although the seeds were sown long before.
"We didn't get the deal done until the pick came up, to be quite honest with you," General Manager Ted Sundquist said. "The initial thought process started back around the Combine. We had a number of discussions with Green Bay in regards to what they would be willing or not willing to take with Javon.
"The idea emerged a long time ago but to actually put the thing to fruition heated up about three days ago, and then did not get finished until the pick game up."
WALK-ING TO DENVER: The trade for Walker brought Denver a receiver who already has one stellar season on his résumé.
Prior to suffering a torn anterior cruciate ligament in Week 1 of last season, Walker had steadily progressed throughout his career, going from 23 catches for 319 yards in 2002 to 41 for 716 in 2003 and 89 for 1,382 a year later. He snagged 12 touchdown receptions in his last season, and helped the Packers to playoff appearances in each of his years with the club.
Shanahan expects Walker to be ready by the start of training camp.
"His rehab (right knee) is going well," Shanahan said. "The target is to have him ready once we go to camp. He is still recovering from his ACL, and I don’t want to push him along too quick. He went through all the physicals with our trainers and doctors, and he should be ready to go full-speed by the time we start camp."
The Broncos don't have a signed long-term deal with Walker, but the team and the receiver "are fairly close to a deal, Shanahan said.
"We've got the parameters in agreement," Shanahan said. "It's basically going to be in that six-year time frame."
LELIE STATUS UNCHANGED: The acquisition of Walker has no impact upon the status of wide receiver Ashley Lelie, Shanahan noted.
"I'd say the chances are very good that he will be a part of our organization," Shanahan said. "I can't say 100 percent, I can't foresee the future, but I will be very surprised if he is not a part of our organization."
Shanahan said that he still had "a lot of confidence" in Lelie, but noted that the wideout's best chance to establish a solid spot on the depth chart is to work out with the team in Denver instead of out of state.
"I think it gives him the best chance to compete," Shanahan said. "Ashley is in the last year of his contract. If you want compete with the guys that we have on our football team and you want to get better, it's hard to do that when you are away. But Ashley has done a lot of great things for this organization, and he's made a lot of great plays for us.
"I'd still like him on this football team. I'd like for him to come in here and compete. If he doesn't, I can't do anything about it except with mini camp, but I can't see how that would help him for his future contracts unless he comes in here and really performs at a high level next year."
Lelie has one 1,000-yard season in his four years with the team and is in the final year of the deal he signed just prior to his rookie training camp in 2002.
"Ashley is a class guy," Shanahan said. "Sometimes, people do things which they think is the best benefit for him, but we signed him to a five-year contract, and I'm still looking forward to him making plays for us. Hopefully, he will."Comment
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Well, not necessarily. Not if you can get the guy in the 3rd round. Maybe they couldn't. Still seems like a reach. I liked Jackson, but I don't see a lot of difference in the upside of him over Charlie Whitehurst (who I liked better). I think they should have kept their extra 3rd round pick and then drafted whomever was left between Jackson and Whitehurst. If Childress is such a guru, they could have waited until the middle rounds and got Reggie McNeal.Originally posted by mngolf19
Not really. The Packers take as many projects as anybody (Hawkins, Coston, and Campbell last year; Noll and Martin this year). I like taking projects, but not when you trade up and end up with only 6 picks. You are leaving yourself small margin for error. Thompson drafts projects, but has come away with 11 and 12 picks the last two years, so he gives himself a little leeway.Originally posted by mngolf19"There's a lot of interest in the draft. It's great. But quite frankly, most of the people that are commenting on it don't know anything about what they are talking about."--Ted ThompsonComment
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Originally posted by MadtownPacker
I KNEW I should not have given Mad the key to the kool-aid vault. Hey MAD, careful wit that stuff.... You're gonna hurt him!Comment
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Harv, I was just looking at this from the perspective of the Packers wanting to do something this year and not having a lot to start with. (supposedly) The Vikes (supposedly) have more in the cupboard so they could afford to develop some guys and still win this year.Originally posted by mngolf19Comment
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I think that come the season we'll all realize how few of these picks were actual reaches and projects.Originally posted by mngolf19
Colledge and Spitz should start
My newly found favorite Jennings is going to be a star
Hawk will start Hodge has potential to start
Rodgers is hidden at WR, but is our new PR
Blackmon is hidden at CB, but is our new KR
Martin is exactly what he was meant to be - our 3rd QB
Johnny Jolly if fixed up will be put into our DT rotation
Out of our 12 picks the only "projects" I see are Toll, Tolefson, and Culver.
Although, with that said, I agree that Thompson has less opportunity to take projects, but I believe that even the projects are looking better than what was in our bare cupboards before.
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