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    Dogs bury $100M

    Vick gets thrown for loss as deal could be voided






    The bill for Michael Vick's role in illegal dogfighting could reach a staggering $100 million in lost future salary, potential repayment of bonuses demanded by the Falcons for defaulting on his contract and endorsement money that is drying up.

    That not does not include the cost to his reputation and image. No price tag can be put on that damage, which may be irreparable.

    Vick will plead guilty to federal dogfighting charges Monday in Richmond, Va. A sentencing date has not been set, but it is anticipated he will spend 12-18 months in prison. NFL commissioner Roger Goodell could then add a year's suspension, meaning Vick's earliest re-entry into the NFL appears to be 2010, assuming a team wants to take on the baggage and negative publicity that will come with signing him.

    The grand total for Vick's potential financial losses: $71 million in base salary, as much as $25 million in bonus repayment, depending on the interpretation of roster bonuses in the new collective bargaining agreement and $3 million-$5 million per year in endorsements.

    "It's game over from a marketing standpoint for Michael Vick," one industry expert said yesterday.

    The Falcons signed Vick to a 10-year, $130 million contract in December, 2004, the largest in NFL history. He has already collected about $40 million, including $37 million in signing and roster bonuses. Sources expect the Falcons to aggressively pursue Vick repaying the pro-rated portion of the $37 million, which could be as high as $25 million. Sources also indicated they expect Vick to challenge the amount. The Falcons could also face opposition from the NFL Players Association. The dispute could wind up going to an arbitrator.

    Vick's contract included a $7.5 million signing bonus, which was paid in three installments, the last one within five months of signing the contract; a $22.5 million roster bonus in 2005 that was paid out with $4.5 million upfront, $8 million on Oct.15, 2005 and $10 million on March 15, 2006 and for salary-cap purposes counted as a signing bonus. He also had a $7 million roster bonus for 2006 that was paid in full on March 15 this year, about half of which was counted as a signing bonus in the cap.

    There is default language in the contract that makes Vick vulnerable to the Falcons pursuing reimbursement. Part of the clause allows for a pro-rated share to be recouped if Vick "is suspended by the NFL or Club for Conduct Detrimental, or is suspended for violating any of the NFL's disciplinary policies or programs, including but not limited to, the NFL Policy and Program for Substances of Abuse, the NFL Policy and Procedures for Anabolic Steroids and Related Substances and the NFL Personal Conduct Policy, then Player shall be in default of this agreement."

    Vick voided out the last year of his contract in 2014 at $17 million after reaching a 45% playing time incentive, thus leaving $71 million in non-guaranteed base salaries from 2007-2013 on the table. The Falcons are expected to cut Vick - but not quite yet. Goodell has asked them to refrain from taking any action against him pending a decision by the commissioner.

    And with salary-cap savings available if the Falcons wait until the start on the 2008 league year next March, there is no need for them to release him now. The collective bargaining agreement allows teams to release a specified number of players before June 1 but still get the June1 benefit of avoiding immediate acceleration into the salary cap.

    Vick was due to make $6 million in base salary this year. That will come off the Falcons books. So will his future base salaries, including the $7.5 million he was due to make next year. Atlanta should have ample salary-cap room to sign a veteran quarterback next year. The problem is franchise quarterbacks rarely make it to the open market. If Atlanta has a bad season, it will have a high 2008 draft pick. That could allow new coach Bobby Petrino to draft Brian Brohm, his quarterback at Louisville.

    Rawlings ended its endorsement deal with Vick, Nike suspended his contract, Upper Deck and Donruss are not including Vick's trading card in their releases this season and the NFL is no longer selling Vick merchandise through its online store.

    "He has just become radioactive," Marc Ganis, the president of Sportscorp Ltd., a Chicago-based sports business consulting firm, said after Vick was indicted last month.

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    • Originally posted by Rastak
      Dogs bury $100M
      charge the dogs with racketeering.



      hanging with Madtown:




      I know neither of these "jokes" (Patler style quotes) are funny. Tough shit, I'm not getting payed for this.

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      • ATLANTA, Georgia (CNN) -- The head of the Atlanta chapter of the NAACP said Wednesday that Atlanta Falcons quarterback Michael Vick has made mistakes but that they should not cost him his football career with the NFL.


        NFL star Michael Vick has accepted an offer to plead guilty to conspiracy charges in a dogfighting case.

        1 of 2 Vick is expected to plead guilty Monday to federal conspiracy charges in an illegal dogfighting operation.

        R.L. White, president of the Atlanta chapter of the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People, said his organization does not condone dogfighting or any other illegal activity, but he told reporters that Vick should be given a chance to redeem himself.

        "In some instances, I believe Michael Vick has received more negative press than if he would've killed a human being," White said. "The way he is being persecuted, he wouldn't have been persecuted that much had he killed somebody."

        White said he believes Vick will cut a deal rather than roll the dice on a trial and take a chance on being found guilty, but "whatever he's done wrongly, he needs to pay for it.

        White also said he didn't understand the uproar over dogfighting, when hunting deer and other animals is perfectly acceptable. Watch NAACP official say don't pile on Vick »

        He urged the National Football League, the Atlanta Falcons and Vick's commercial sponsors not to dump the troubled athlete.

        "We feel that whatever the courts demand as a punishment for what he has done, once he has paid his debt to society, then he should be treated like any other person in the NFL," White said.

        Falcons owner Arthur Blank and NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell have said they will not make a decision on Vick's future immediately.

        After Vick's indictment last month, Goodell ordered the quarterback not to report to training camp until the league completed its review of the case. The NFL is considering what, if any, sanctions it should impose on Vick.

        When Vick appears Monday in federal court in Richmond, Virginia, the details of his plea agreement will be made public. The judge in the case will have the final say over the plea agreement.

        The deal, if accepted by the judge, means the 27-year-old football star will avoid more serious charges that would have been considered by a grand jury that convened this week.

        Sources close to the case have said federal prosecutors offered to recommend an 18- to 36-month prison sentence for the suspended star quarterback for his alleged role in the dogfighting operation. Vick's attorneys were trying to reduce that to less than a year.

        Vick's three co-defendants in the dogfighting case already accepted agreements to plead guilty in exchange for reduced sentences.

        Court documents released last week showed that two of Vick's alleged partners said he helped kill dogs that didn't fight well and that the three men "executed approximately eight dogs" in ways that included hanging and drowning.

        The dogs were killed because they fared poorly in "testing" sessions in April at Vick's property in Virginia, where the dog fighting venture was based, according to documents released following guilty pleas from two co-defendants -- Purnell Peace, 35, of Virginia Beach, and Quanis Phillips, 28, of Atlanta. See what Vick's former co-defendants admitted »


        Peace and Phillips pleaded guilty Friday. A third man, Tony Taylor, 34, of Hampton, Virginia, pleaded guilty July 30.

        In the court documents, Peace and Phillips said that the money behind the Bad Newz Kennels dogfighting operation came "almost exclusively" from Vick, and they told prosecutors that other accusations in the 18-page indictment are true.

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        • White also said he didn't understand the uproar over dogfighting, when hunting deer and other animals is perfectly acceptable

          Not sure what kind of credibility one can expect to have when making idiotic statements like this one.

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          • Sharpton and Jackson will be in on this before it's over.

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            • Originally posted by GBRulz
              ATLANTA, Georgia (CNN) -- The head of the Atlanta chapter of the NAACP said Wednesday that Atlanta Falcons quarterback Michael Vick has made mistakes but that they should not cost him his football career with the NFL.


              NFL star Michael Vick has accepted an offer to plead guilty to conspiracy charges in a dogfighting case.

              1 of 2 Vick is expected to plead guilty Monday to federal conspiracy charges in an illegal dogfighting operation.

              R.L. White, president of the Atlanta chapter of the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People, said his organization does not condone dogfighting or any other illegal activity, but he told reporters that Vick should be given a chance to redeem himself.

              "In some instances, I believe Michael Vick has received more negative press than if he would've killed a human being," White said. "The way he is being persecuted, he wouldn't have been persecuted that much had he killed somebody."

              White said he believes Vick will cut a deal rather than roll the dice on a trial and take a chance on being found guilty, but "whatever he's done wrongly, he needs to pay for it.

              White also said he didn't understand the uproar over dogfighting, when hunting deer and other animals is perfectly acceptable. Watch NAACP official say don't pile on Vick »

              He urged the National Football League, the Atlanta Falcons and Vick's commercial sponsors not to dump the troubled athlete.

              "We feel that whatever the courts demand as a punishment for what he has done, once he has paid his debt to society, then he should be treated like any other person in the NFL," White said.

              Falcons owner Arthur Blank and NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell have said they will not make a decision on Vick's future immediately.

              After Vick's indictment last month, Goodell ordered the quarterback not to report to training camp until the league completed its review of the case. The NFL is considering what, if any, sanctions it should impose on Vick.

              When Vick appears Monday in federal court in Richmond, Virginia, the details of his plea agreement will be made public. The judge in the case will have the final say over the plea agreement.

              The deal, if accepted by the judge, means the 27-year-old football star will avoid more serious charges that would have been considered by a grand jury that convened this week.

              Sources close to the case have said federal prosecutors offered to recommend an 18- to 36-month prison sentence for the suspended star quarterback for his alleged role in the dogfighting operation. Vick's attorneys were trying to reduce that to less than a year.

              Vick's three co-defendants in the dogfighting case already accepted agreements to plead guilty in exchange for reduced sentences.

              Court documents released last week showed that two of Vick's alleged partners said he helped kill dogs that didn't fight well and that the three men "executed approximately eight dogs" in ways that included hanging and drowning.

              The dogs were killed because they fared poorly in "testing" sessions in April at Vick's property in Virginia, where the dog fighting venture was based, according to documents released following guilty pleas from two co-defendants -- Purnell Peace, 35, of Virginia Beach, and Quanis Phillips, 28, of Atlanta. See what Vick's former co-defendants admitted »


              Peace and Phillips pleaded guilty Friday. A third man, Tony Taylor, 34, of Hampton, Virginia, pleaded guilty July 30.

              In the court documents, Peace and Phillips said that the money behind the Bad Newz Kennels dogfighting operation came "almost exclusively" from Vick, and they told prosecutors that other accusations in the 18-page indictment are true.
              Tell that to Rae Carruth.
              Originally posted by 3irty1
              This is museum quality stupidity.

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              • Originally posted by GBRulz
                White also said he didn't understand the uproar over dogfighting, when hunting deer and other animals is perfectly acceptable

                Not sure what kind of credibility one can expect to have when making idiotic statements like this one.
                Either he thinks that there is a natural over population of pit bulls and that letting people watch them rip each other to shreds is more humane than letting them starve or get hit by cars, or this White joker is into dog fighting.

                I'm guessing he is just another dog fighting loving piece of human filth.
                2025 Ratpickers champion.

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                • Originally posted by MadScientist
                  Originally posted by GBRulz
                  White also said he didn't understand the uproar over dogfighting, when hunting deer and other animals is perfectly acceptable

                  Not sure what kind of credibility one can expect to have when making idiotic statements like this one.
                  Either he thinks that there is a natural over population of pit bulls and that letting people watch them rip each other to shreds is more humane than letting them starve or get hit by cars, or this White joker is into dog fighting.

                  I'm guessing he is just another dog fighting loving piece of human filth.
                  That, and we're not hanging or drowning or electrocuting bambi. We're also not making Bambi fight another bambi to the death.

                  Man, whoever made that claim is dumb!!

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                  • Originally posted by packinpatland
                    Sharpton and Jackson will be in on this before it's over.
                    Nah. Its pretty plain that Vick is very guilty of SOMETHING connected to dog fighting. He's radioactive. I'm sorry that the case didn't go to trial, both justice and the public would have been better served by hearing all the details, and of course hearing Vick's side of the story.

                    With the OJ trial, they had the LA Police (with its checkered history) to make into the boogie man. No such escape hatch here. I think the prosecution was heavy handed, but that's a debatable argument that puts people to sleep.

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                    • Originally posted by Harlan Huckleby
                      I think the prosecution was heavy handed, but that's a debatable argument that puts people to sleep.
                      You're right, it is debatable. I think they were just honest with him. (Are you surprised?) It's not heavy handed if they were telling him the truth.

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                      • Originally posted by Patler
                        It's not heavy handed if they were telling him the truth.
                        truth got nothing to do with it. sure, the prosecution was truthful and straightforward. the contention is that the prosecution followed the letter rather than spirit/intent of law, effectively denied VIck a full hearing on the dogfighting charges.

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                        • Originally posted by Harlan Huckleby
                          Originally posted by Patler
                          It's not heavy handed if they were telling him the truth.
                          truth got nothing to do with it. sure, the prosecution was truthful and straightforward. the contention is that the prosecution followed the letter rather than spirit/intent of law, effectively denied VIck a full hearing on the dogfighting charges.

                          Bullshit. Plain and simple. He plead guilty because he is and they got his ugly evil ass dead to rights. THAT'S why he isn't going to trial.


                          He wasn't denied a damn thing...maybe continuing his illegal enterprise. That's about all he was denied.

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                          • Marbury defends Vick, calls dogfighting a sport

                            NEW YORK (AP) — New York Knicks guard Stephon Marbury defended Michael Vick, calling dogfighting a sport and comparing it to hunting.
                            Marbury spoke Monday about the federal dogfighting conspiracy charges against Vick while promoting his basketball shoe in Albany, N.Y.

                            "I think it's tough," Marbury said, according to Albany TV station Capital News 9. "I think, you know, we don't say anything about people who shoot deer or shoot other animals. You know, from what I hear, dogfighting is a sport. It's just behind closed doors."

                            On Monday, Vick said through a lawyer that he will plead guilty to a federal charge of conspiracy to travel in interstate commerce in aid of unlawful activities and conspiracy to sponsor a dog in an animal-fighting venture. He also faces possible prosecution in Virginia.

                            "I think it's tough that we build Michael Vick up and then we break him down," Marbury said. "I think he's one of the superb athletes, and he's a good human being. I just think that he fell into a bad situation."

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                            • Add another idiot to the list of comparing this to hunting.

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                              • Originally posted by Rastak
                                Bullshit. Plain and simple. He plead guilty because he is and they got his ugly evil ass dead to rights. THAT'S why he isn't going to trial.
                                As a matter of practicality, he didn't plead quilty to dogfighting. He plead "please don't charge me with racketeering."

                                Ummm, I appreciate why you consider this hairsplitting. Actually, you don't even consider it hairsplittin, you simply refuse to follow my argument!

                                I know Vick is a bad man. Very bad man. Still shoulda had a trial.

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