Vick goes to court today....

[RashanGary]

I thought he looked scared. I can't explain it, but he looked very sober and aware of what was in front of him. He was trying to act proud and collected but I saw anxiety and a sense of losing control.

[Harlan Huckleby]

Hah! I'm just picturing Michael Vick making the TV talk show circuit. Tavis Smiley. The View - hugging Joy Behar. You laugh! It's comin.

007, I'm not positive you won't shed a tear for the New Michael someday.

[Harlan Huckleby]

Yeah, he can come out and have a happy life but the superstar, super wealthy, powerfull Vick is gone.

Ya, that's almost certainly true.

Vick seems stupid and uncharming. I don't want to exaggerate his great comeback.

I don't blame anybody who never forgives him. Some will, tho.

[Harlan Huckleby]

I saw anxiety and a sense of losing control.

sounds like he peed his pants.

I sure don't hold THAT against him.

[RashanGary]

Ya, that's almost certainly true.

Vick seems stupid and uncharming. I don't want to exaggerate his great comeback.

[GrnBay007]

007, I'm not positive you won't shed a tear for the New Michael someday.

Don't count on it HH. If he's one of the few that changes his life after his criminal behavior and poor decisions, I will be happy for him and support him...if it appears sincere.

You know, if Vick had admitted to everything from day one and said he made some poor decisions based on the negative peers he had then the public would most likely be viewing this whole thing a LITTLE differently. He lied, and lied and denied and denied. Once you go down that road people are more likely to say F You!!

[Harlan Huckleby]

He lied, and lied and denied and denied.

From your intensity, sounds like you might have had a similar experience in your own life. Sorry, no need to comment.

[GrnBay007]

He lied, and lied and denied and denied.

From your intensity, sounds like you might have had a similar experience in your own life. Sorry, no need to comment.

LOL intensity? u silly pup. The Liee always wins, while the Liar always loses. Life lesson 101. :P

[the_idle_threat]

He lied, and lied and denied and denied.

From your intensity, sounds like you might have had a similar experience in your own life. Sorry, no need to comment.

LOL intensity? u silly pup. The Liee always wins, while the Liar always loses. Life lesson 101. :P

I think a lot of times both parties lose. Maybe even most of the time.

[Scott Campbell]

It was "over" for Dick Nixon back in '64, too.

So we should root for a Vick comeback so he can later be impeached?

[Scott Campbell]

You know, if Vick had admitted to everything from day one and said he made some poor decisions based on the negative peers he had then the public would most likely be viewing this whole thing a LITTLE differently.

I dunno. He sadistically tortured and killed animals that weren't good enough killers. IMO, you can't just say your sorry and get a pass. This was truly evil, not just naughty or bad. The lies were the far lesser of two evils - again, IMO.

[falco]

You know, if Vick had admitted to everything from day one and said he made some poor decisions based on the negative peers he had then the public would most likely be viewing this whole thing a LITTLE differently.

I dunno. He sadistically tortured and killed animals that weren't good enough killers. IMO, you can't just say your sorry and get a pass. This was truly evil, not just naughty or bad. The lies were the far lesser of two evils - again, IMO.

I agree. But I think it would have helped his case to go to his owner and the commissioner and tell them everything right away. It may not have made a difference, but I think by alienating them he closed off any chance of their help.

[Rastak]

You know, if Vick had admitted to everything from day one and said he made some poor decisions based on the negative peers he had then the public would most likely be viewing this whole thing a LITTLE differently.

I dunno. He sadistically tortured and killed animals that weren't good enough killers. IMO, you can't just say your sorry and get a pass. This was truly evil, not just naughty or bad. The lies were the far lesser of two evils - again, IMO.

I agree with Scott.....the one thing you'll never be given a free pass on with the public is messing with kids or dogs. People rarely forgive on that.

Plus, Vick isn't most charismatic fellow. AND he was doing this shit for 5 years and probably would have the rest of his damn life if he hadn't been caught.

[GrnBay007]

LOL hold up.....



before you I said a LITTLE differently........nothing about a free pass.

[Scott Campbell]

LOL hold up.....



before you I said a LITTLE differently........nothing about a free pass.

I understood. I'm just saying I wouldn't see it ANY differently.