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  • #31
    Re: Losers

    Originally posted by JustinHarrell
    Originally posted by retailguy
    But remember "We'll win SOME games."
    Spoken like a GM who understands the uncertainty in the NFL. This is acctually a testiment to the good hands that our team is in but you are unable to see that so I'm laughing at you, not offended by you. There, and I didn't even need a compensation wink to exaggerate my point.

    Nope. You didn't need one, you had to explain it to me...

    Good thing too, because I truthfully wouldn't have gotten your point.

    We'll see what Thompson does. He's got his players. Since McCarthy came in and said he "was going to paint his dreamhouse", we've got like what, 30 new players?

    You work construction, right? Doesn't that sound like a little more than a "paint job" to you too?

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    • #32
      I think Thompson distorts reality when the reality is bad. I don't think he would have came out in 2005 and said "This team sucks, we need a whole new core" after Walker and Green went down but I would venture to guess that he thought that was the case.

      Wist was here saying it, I started saying it after we got torched in the Bear game. Many here knew we sucked and it was a long road. Should Thompson have said that? I don't know. He didn't. I do see your piont though, he hasn't been as strait forward as he could have been or so it appears.
      Formerly known as JustinHarrell.

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      • #33
        Re: Losers

        Originally posted by retailguy
        Originally posted by JustinHarrell
        Originally posted by retailguy
        But remember "We'll win SOME games."
        Spoken like a GM who understands the uncertainty in the NFL. This is acctually a testiment to the good hands that our team is in but you are unable to see that so I'm laughing at you, not offended by you. There, and I didn't even need a compensation wink to exaggerate my point.

        Nope. You didn't need one, you had to explain it to me...

        Good thing too, because I truthfully wouldn't have gotten your point.

        We'll see what Thompson does. He's got his players. Since McCarthy came in and said he "was going to paint his dreamhouse", we've got like what, 30 new players?

        You work construction, right? Doesn't that sound like a little more than a "paint job" to you too?
        I've built homes and now I'm a couple semesters away from being a road design engineer and project engineer on highway construction projects depending on the season, so yeah I do know a little about building and I know you can't do anything without a base. You don't plop an asphalt road on a a field of grass, you have to have a good, stable base. You don't build a roof, cabinets and trim on a stick house, it has to have a good frame. That's the reality of constructing anything in my experience and it probably extends to a football team.

        You think maybe McCArthy was an excited first year coach? Thompson probably mislead but McCarthy was probably just happy to be here.
        Formerly known as JustinHarrell.

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        • #34
          Re: Losers

          Originally posted by JustinHarrell
          I've built homes and now I'm a couple semesters away from being a road design engineer and project engineer on highway construction projects depending on the season, so yeah I do know a little about building and I know you can't do anything without a base. You don't plop an asphalt road on a a field of grass, you have to have a good, stable base. You don't build a roof, cabinets and trim on a stick house, it has to have a good frame. That's the reality of constructing anything, including a football team.

          And you don't stick your finger in that damned cat's ass!

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          • #35
            Re: Losers

            Originally posted by Scott Campbell


            And you don't stick your finger in that damned cat's ass!


            Right, and if your trying to skin a cat you don't finger it's ass.
            Formerly known as JustinHarrell.

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            • #36
              Re: Losers

              Originally posted by JustinHarrell
              I've built homes and now I'm a couple semesters away from being a road design engineer and project engineer on highway construction projects depending on the season, so yeah I do know a little about building and I know you can't do anything without a base. You don't plop an asphalt road on a a field of grass, you have to have a good, stable base. You don't build a roof, cabinets and trim on a stick house, it has to have a good frame. That's the reality of constructing anything in my experience and it probably extends to a football team.
              So how much sand do you have to put under slate to make a stone walkway? (the directions were unclear...)
              "Greatness is not an act... but a habit.Greatness is not an act... but a habit." -Greg Jennings

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              • #37
                Re: Losers

                Originally posted by MJZiggy
                Originally posted by JustinHarrell
                I've built homes and now I'm a couple semesters away from being a road design engineer and project engineer on highway construction projects depending on the season, so yeah I do know a little about building and I know you can't do anything without a base. You don't plop an asphalt road on a a field of grass, you have to have a good, stable base. You don't build a roof, cabinets and trim on a stick house, it has to have a good frame. That's the reality of constructing anything in my experience and it probably extends to a football team.
                So how much sand do you have to put under slate to make a stone walkway? (the directions were unclear...)

                I wonder if you could use road base underneath - like with pavers.

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                • #38
                  Re: Losers

                  Originally posted by JustinHarrell
                  I've built homes and now I'm a couple semesters away from being a road design engineer and project engineer on highway construction projects depending on the season, so yeah I do know a little about building and I know you can't do anything without a base. You don't plop an asphalt road on a a field of grass, you have to have a good, stable base. You don't build a roof, cabinets and trim on a stick house, it has to have a good frame. That's the reality of constructing anything in my experience and it probably extends to a football team.

                  You think maybe McCArthy was an excited first year coach? Thompson probably mislead but McCarthy was probably just happy to be here.
                  So, sincerely, why aren't you biased when you continually give them the benefit of the doubt WHEN YOU HAVE NO IDEA what is true and what is not?

                  You tell me over and over and over that I am biased related to Sherman and I haven't mentioned him in months, and then only sparingly to support a point? What's the difference?

                  JH, I'm dealing with what both of them ACTUALLY say, I'm not putting words into their mouths. You think Thompson distorts when reality is bad, I think he distorts mostly all of the time. I, quite honestly, don't really believe much that he says, because so much of it doesn't match what he does.

                  He might be building a great team, but he might not. I completely disagree with his short term process, because I don't think it will lead to a winning team in 2007. I do think it'll lead to a winning team in 2008 or perhaps 2009, but he is actually saying he'll win in 2007.

                  So, again, HOW DOES THIS MAKE ME NEGATIVE? Why can't I match what he says to what he does? Why don't the experts (not the media), the scouts, the other GM's, think we're going to win? That troubles me.

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                  • #39
                    Sherman was a much more truthful GM.

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by Scott Campbell
                      Sherman was a much more truthful GM.

                      perhaps too truthful? :P

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by retailguy
                        Originally posted by Scott Campbell
                        Sherman was a much more truthful GM.

                        perhaps too truthful? :P

                        I can't imagine why any GM would want anyone outside of their respective orginizations to know what it's strategy was.

                        It's like trying to play poker with your cards showing.

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                        • #42
                          Re: Losers

                          Originally posted by MJZiggy
                          So how much sand do you have to put under slate to make a stone walkway? (the directions were unclear...)[/quote]

                          haha, my initial thought was that a well graded, aggregate would be best but then I'm thinking that the bricks would want to wobble on that so it wouldn't work. I would guess 3-4 inches would due but that is just a guess. I'd say you'd want to be sure the sand is compacted as well as possible. If you don't have a compactor, I'd lay it in very small lifts and just stomp on it or pound it with a 2X4. Primative, but it's probably better than nothing at all.
                          Formerly known as JustinHarrell.

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                          • #43
                            Thanks. As long as it doesn't rain (whcih would be fine too) I can start cutting the lawn around the stones...Now all I need is a gay man to go garden shopping with....
                            "Greatness is not an act... but a habit.Greatness is not an act... but a habit." -Greg Jennings

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                            • #44
                              The last time I heard Sherman talking about guys we needed to re-sign, while he was still the GM, he told you straight up, "We are going to restructure some contracts, move some money around, but even with all of that, we are not going to be able to keep everyone." He even went through the scenario of who he thought we would be able to keep and who he thought we might lose.


                              Thompson came to town, and he did not care about keeping anyone. Every move he made was made to cut salaries. We have cap room now, but who gives a shit? He isnt going to use it.


                              NFL=NOT FOR LONG!


                              So, all any of us can do, is wait it out, see if this season is as ugly as every other season has been under Thompson, and hope that these guys that have been hanging off of Thompsons nuts from day one, guessed right.


                              Personally, I still find it funny that we still have people complaining about Sherman............and his winning records (up until TT took over anyway). Yet here we have Thompson and his brilliant plans to (lets not say rebuild ) improve the Packers. Its gone just great so far hasn't it? Who was his very first pick? For a guy that ignores free agency to the extent that Thompson does, you would think that wasting first round picks would be a huge "NO-NO". We have gotten so much use out of that pick didnt we. <--------------Note Sarcasm, its spread on extra thick!


                              By the way, please dont respond to this with the normal drivel about how "Teddy just needs a little more time", or "only time will tell", or my all time favorite, "it's going to take a few years before we can really judge TT's work". Its all getting old. Why? We have been hearing it for a while now. Its time to see results.

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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by PackerBlues
                                Thompson came to town, and he did not care about keeping anyone. Every move he made was made to cut salaries.

                                Hopefully this response won't fit your definition of the usual, and hopefully it's ok that I replied.

                                Your statement of fact is completely messed up again.

                                Harris, Driver, Kampman, Jenkins......etc., etc., etc. All kept. All making more, not less.

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