Walker trade is final. Walker for 4 players (hate this deal)

[MadtownPacker]

Whats up Wist?

I hate losing walker too but the truth is he hated the Packers even more. I really would have liked this all to have worked out by he made it impossible.

[b bulldog]

He needed to go and a second rounder wasn't bad imo.

[wist43]

Nick,

I like the draft for the most part. In particular, I like Hawk and Hodge quite a bit.

My impressions of the others are still taking shape, but I like what I've read of Jolly and Tollefson (health is his issue).

For this draft to be a success though, I think Colledge needs to be penciled in as the starting LG from day 1, and Jennings needs to step into the number 3 WR spot before too long.

Our return issues seem to have been addressed with Jennings, Rodgers, or Blackmon. Spitz is tough, but not the greatest athlete in the world. The rest I'm still learning about.

For me, Hodge makes this draft... I don't see how they can kep him out of the starting lineup. Even if it means lining him on the strong side. He's simply too tough, physical, and instinctive not to have on the field.

P.S. Good to see everybody... I lost track of you guys after C-E.

[RashanGary]

I thought you'd like this group wist....

I thought you'd be doing back flips when you heard tough, smart players and 40 times arn't everything.....

You've been saying that for a while...

The guys you said should start and need to play for this draft to be a success are word for word what I was thinking and said a few times here and there. I really hope we get 3 starters right away. Hawk, Hodge, Colledge and Jennings contributes as the #3 WR.

I'm not as big on Hodge as you but I think he'll be Kampman like at his postion. Hawk will be a star so we came away with at least 1 true playmaker.

[MJZiggy]

Can't we wait to see how they do in camp before we give them a starting slot?

[wist43]

I've seen enough of Hawk and Hodge to state up front that they should both be on the field from day 1.

The reason I contend that Colledge should start from day 1 is b/c of what we gave up to get him - Javon Walker. Colledge better start, damn it. Beyond that, the Packers interior OL is very, very weak... How could a 2nd round pick not start given the competition??? If he doesn't start, then his draft status isn't justified, which means that TT screwed up the pick, and the trade.

Even if Colledge turns out to be a good pro, I'm still steaming about the Walker fiasco.

[b bulldog]

Jimmy Johnson was really high on Hawk and Hodge. I listen when he talks NFL draft.

[FritzDontBlitz]

i think its just fascinating that one year wonders like walker get so much praise and attention from the fans and the prognosticators even after he went headcase as soon as he has his first decent season. dude has serious issues, and they will simmer to the surface in denver just like they did in green bay.

teddy had to get rid of him the best way he could. i don't like letting walker go either, but he made himself impossible to keep.

the league needs to remove that last six games clause from the cba to prevent crap like that from being used as a negotiating ploy to force a deal, or you can expect to see more players using it....

[FritzDontBlitz]

Re: Walker trade is final. Walker for 4 players (hate this d

Denver gets:
Walker

Green Bay gets:
2nd rd (37th pick)

Green Bay trades:
2nd rd (37th pick), and 5th rd (139th pick)

to Atlanta for:
2nd rd (47th pick), 3rd rd (93rd), and 5th rd (148th pick)

Green Bay trades:
3rd rd (93rd pick)

to St. Louis for:
4th rd (109th pick), and 6th rd (183rd pick)

Green Bay trades:
4th rd (109th pick)

to Philadelphia for:
4th rd (115th pick), and 6th rd (185th pick)

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So, in total TT parlayed Walker into a 2nd, 4th, and two 6th round picks... I threw out the 5th round pick they picked up from Atlanta b/c all they did was swap picks, with Green Bay trading down 9 spots.

The ultimate take:
Rd Pick Player Position
2 47 Daryn Colledge OG
4 115 Will Blackmon CB
6 183 Johnny Jolly DT
6 185 Tyrone Culver FS

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Of course, it will be a while before we have a handle on these guys, but the principle player in the deal is Colledge.

Colledge for Walker??? I hate that deal. TT's plan seems to have been to hide behind a smoke screen of players, in the hopes that one or two of them will turn out to be half way decent.

Javon Walker for a bunch of spit balls that TT hopes will stick to the wall???

I HATE THIS DEAL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Even if two of these guys turn out to be players - I still HATE THIS DEAL!!!!!!!!!!!

getting two good players for one is always a good deal.

walker DID NOT WANT TO PLAY FOR THE GREEN BAY PACKERS. how many times do you need to hear it before you realize you needed to let him go and get what you could?