trick play or poor sportsmanship?

[Little Whiskey]

http://www.620wtmj.com/shows/charliesykes

check out this peewee football clip. qb runs to the sidlines yelling to his coach that he has the wrong ball once he gets near the sidelines he runs to the endzone and the refs score it as a touchdown.

is this just another hiddenball trick or poor sportsmanship on the coach?

[swede]

As a youth football coach, I would never ever choose to employ such a shoddy trick. I'd rather be able to yell across the field to the other coach, "Here comes our sweep. We're gonna pull our left guard, seal your backside pursuit, and knock out your lb and safety with our flanker and end. Good luck!"

On the other hand, I defend the other coach's right to play within the legal scope of the rules. By facing a legal yet underhanded trick play my boys will learn to be game aware at all times.

I hear that people are getting faint with their concern for the lessons taught children by employing such a mean abuse of the rules in a game.

The American way is to defend the other guy's right to be a jerk while teaching your children to be better than that.

[Zool]

This is a clear case of douchebaggery on the coach. Clearly a 12 year old should be able to diagnose a trick play on the fly like that.

[BallHawk]

Cheap. And the thing is, if the defense tackled the kid, the coach would shout at the kid for tackling his player.

Loser.

[PackerBlues]

Did the coach admit to drawing up the play, or admit that he called the play? If he did, then yes, that is lame as all hell.

On the other hand, didnt you ever try a trick play when you were a kid playing in a team sport? Maybe him and his teamates came up with that play on their own, and were just having fun.

Dunno.

[Zool]

Maybe you watched without sound. You can clearly hear the coach telling him to go.

[PackerBlues]

OOOF. yeah, that was lame. Poor sportsmanship for sure, and not something to proudly teach a child.

[Green Bud Packer]

Youth sports at times are an outlet for the macho image of coaches. it's sad and more common than i remember as a kid.

[Cheesehead Craig]

Cheap. And the thing is, if the defense tackled the kid, the coach would shout at the kid for tackling his player.

Loser.

Exactly. Had the LB or S come up and tackled the kid, he would have been blindsided and the coach and the parents would have had a coronary. It was a total lose/lose for the defense.

[Little Whiskey]

the other thing is that i think the officials were in on the play as well. otherwise if the kid was yelling that he had the wrong ball the ref would have whistled the play dead and checked the ball.


as they were talking about this they brought up a little league game in which the pitcher intentionally walked a good batter to pitch to a retarded kid. is that right???

how about the hidden ball trick in baseball?? same or different?


do trick plays belong in kids sports? what about if this play happened in High School Football? College? Pros?

[MJZiggy]

I don't think in either college or pros this play could happen 'cause as soon as the ball moved no matter what the qb was yelling, the D would come and there would be a field general shaped impression in the field turf...

Or they'd have called a false start on the center.

[BallHawk]

as they were talking about this they brought up a little league game in which the pitcher intentionally walked a good batter to pitch to a retarded kid. is that right???

You kinda got it. They walked the best hitter to pitch to a kid that was recovering from cancer. That is so much worse then this.

In regards to the hidden ball trick, I don't think that's cheating. It's bush league, sure, but it's just another reason that base-runners need to pay attention to everything and be observant.

And there is no way this would fly in a high school game or any level higher then that. The refs would call BS immediately and I doubt the coach would be dumb enough to even try it. Also, the QB would be charged with a false start, I believe.

[Guiness]

Geez. Part of the game. Next thing you know you'll be ragging on me for the foil I put on the kids knuckles for the Atom playoff game...

[packinpatland]

Did the coach admit to drawing up the play, or admit that he called the play? If he did, then yes, that is lame as all hell.

On the other hand, didnt you ever try a trick play when you were a kid playing in a team sport? Maybe him and his teamates came up with that play on their own, and were just having fun.
Dunno.

I'd say this was the case if it were 'sandlot' type of game. But with a coach calling the plays, it's just cheating with an 'ok'.

[Little Whiskey]

You kinda got it. They walked the best hitter to pitch to a kid that was recovering from cancer. That is so much worse then this.

sorry, i only caught the end of very end of the story and i didn't hear that he had cancer. maybe they had the facts wrong or maybe i misunderstood.

anyway, what if this took place (i'm not sure if it did or not) in the ninth inning and their were runners on 2nd and third with 1 out? would it only matter if the kid following was a cancer patient? isn't this a fundemental strategy?