Originally posted by Scott Campbell
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Might the Colts call TT about a trade?
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wow, too much crap in this thread to even begin with.
I guess the only thing that got me was the comment of a "field-stretching" TE(lol does this mean Alge Crumpler too?) is better than a game-changing, field general for the defense linebacker? Every team does not have a "Hawk" type linebacker, hell I can't think of more then 10 teams that do.
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Vernon Davis has all those athletic skills and prior to the draft it wasn't wrong to see that. he was an intriguing option, but we had a lot of need to solidify at LBer's and AJ Hawk was the obvious choice.Originally posted by JustinHarrellI was bounced around from Hawk to Davis but ultimately I liked Davis. I was wrong.Originally posted by Partial
You were #1 on the Vernon Davis band-wagon.
TT made the right and obvious move on that pick for our future.** Since 2006 3 X Pro Pickem' Champion; 4 X Runner-Up and 3 X 3rd place.
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I can't believe anyone here could even begin to suggest that Vernon Davis is worth even half of Hawk's worth. And, furthermore, Davis did much of nothing last year, after most predicted he could come in and be an immediate impact player. BTW, Hawk WAS an immediate impact player with over 150 tackles. And he should be outstanding this year. He could easily get into the ProBowl if his sacks and interceptions go up this year. I thought this was a dead issue by now, a no-brainer."...one thing about me during the course of a game, I get emotional and say things my grandmother lets me know about later. But nobody wants to win on that field anymore than I do, no one." Brett Favre
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I was looking at their roster today and they are suspect at DT now.Originally posted by BallHawkAgreed. I'd put the chances at 75/25 in favor of Tank.Originally posted by Scott CampbellBack to the original topic, Indy might take a chance on Tank Johnson.** Since 2006 3 X Pro Pickem' Champion; 4 X Runner-Up and 3 X 3rd place.
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With all the reports about Pickett being out of shape, it could be that the DT starters of the future will be Williams and Harrell. Just because Pickett signed a big contract doesn't mean that he can't lose his starting job or get traded/released.I can't run no more
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First, Hawk was a fine choice and had a very good rookie year, he may have struggled a bit in coverage in the beginning, but more than came around at the end of the year. Comparing him to Davis is like comparing apples to oranges, both are going to be pro bowlers for years to come.
Second, the way the history in this league works with trading for veteran players for draft picks warrants at best a third round pick for Willams. Sorry guys but that is the way it works.
Now shut up and clean the kitchen!
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I can see this. NFL teams probably don't know much about him. He's a very good player though. I really think he's going to break out this year, even moreso than last year. At camp, he looked like the 2nd best DL. bulldog said the same thing from the practice he went to. The guy is big, quick, strong, he's in great condition and he hustles.Originally posted by Deputy Nutz
Second, the way the history in this league works with trading for veteran players for draft picks warrants at best a third round pick for Willams. Sorry guys but that is the way it works.
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If you copied the scrimmage, go back and look at him. On his 2nd play he sacked Rodgers and he was getting either doubled or getting pressure on every snap he played. They definitly needed help to stop him.Formerly known as JustinHarrell.
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My guess is they'll pick up Tank, and a couple of camp cuts or practice squad guys from teams that are in less dire straights at DT.Originally posted by Scott CampbellBack to the original topic, Indy might take a chance on Tank Johnson.</delurk>
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You missed my point again, unless Williams becomes an All-Pro this year he is worth nothing more than a 3rd round pick. He might turn into a solid above average d-linemen but that doesn't increase his value more than a late first day pick.Originally posted by JustinHarrellI can see this. NFL teams probably don't know much about him. He's a very good player though. I really think he's going to break out this year, even moreso than last year. At camp, he looked like the 2nd best DL. bulldog said the same thing from the practice he went to. The guy is big, quick, strong, he's in great condition and he hustles.Originally posted by Deputy Nutz
Second, the way the history in this league works with trading for veteran players for draft picks warrants at best a third round pick for Willams. Sorry guys but that is the way it works.
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If you copied the scrimmage, go back and look at him. On his 2nd play he sacked Rodgers and he was getting either doubled or getting pressure on every snap he played. They definitly needed help to stop him.
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Monday, August 6
TIME TO STEP UP
By John Oehser - Colts.com
With McFarland Injured, Dungy said Others Must Perform
TERRE HAUTE, Ind. – The news wasn’t what anyone around the Colts wanted.
Anthony “Booger” McFarland, a nine-year veteran defensive tackle whose emergence as a leader and run defender helped the Colts to a Super Bowl title last season, has sustained a serious knee injury and will miss significant time, Colts Head Coach Tony Dungy said Monday.
McFarland sustained an injury to the patella tendon, Dungy said.
“We don’t know the full extent of it – it’s serious,” Dungy said following a 2007 Training Camp morning practice at the Rose-Hulman Institute of Technology.
But the Colts have been in this situation before, Dungy said.
They have lost key players. They have had serious injuries. They have faced serious adversity.
They faced it last season, Dungy noted, when defensive Corey Simon was lost for the end season – and still, last season ended in the Super Bowl.
“That’s what I reminded the team of today, that we’ve lost guys and other guys have stepped up,” Dungy said.
“We have a lot of young guys who are going to step up,” Colts defensive tackle Raheem Brock said.
“We’ll just move forward.”
Dungy compared the Colts’ approach to the situation to that which they took when tight end Dallas Clark was injured in November of last season.
Clark sustained a knee injury against Philadelphia in late November, an injury first believed to be season-ending. The Colts opted not to put Clark on injured reserve – a move that ends a player’s season – and Clark returned to be a key postseason contributor.
“I’m a little hesitant because last year we had Dallas Clark ready to go on IR,” Dungy said.
“He ended up not having an operation and playing.
“But it’s something where he (McFarland) is not going to be back in the next three or four weeks. It’s a long-term injury. We have some other guys who have to pick up the slack.”
Dungy said surgery is being considered, and that it’s “something I think is going to happen, but we’re still waiting to see.”
Brock, a starting defensive end from 2002-2005, started at tackle last season and is working there again this season.
Third-year veteran Darrell Reid and fifth-year veteran Dan Klecko are the other players on the Colts’ roster with NFL tackle experience.
“Somebody will step to the front,” Dungy said.
“We have Darrell Reid and Klecko and other guys to play,” Brock said.
“Guys are looking good. So we’re not too worried. I have to help them out as much as I can and help get them up to speed. They’re doing fine so far.”
Rookie Keyunta Dawson, a seventh-round selection who has played end and tackle during camp, likely will move inside full-time, Dungy said Monday.
Dawson had two sacks and a fumble recovery in the Colts’ Blue-and-White scrimmage on Saturday. Rookie defensive tackle Quinn Pitcock, a third-round selection, practiced for the first time on Monday.
“I wanted to play as much as I could, so I was going to step up no matter what,” Pitcock said.
McFarland, acquired by the Colts in a midseason trade with the Tampa
Bay Buccaneers last season, started the final 11 regular-season games and all four postseason games. He had 45 tackles for the Colts in the regular season and 2.5 sacks, and had 12 tackles and two sacks in the postseason.
Dungy said not only McFarland’s play, but his leadership, was critical to the Colts’ postseason run.
“He worked hard and became a leader for us last year,” Dungy said.
“To have that kind of a setback is disappointing to the individual, but as far as our team goes, it really is something that we have to move past. That’s what we have to do, but it’s tough for him and tough on the team as a group.”** Since 2006 3 X Pro Pickem' Champion; 4 X Runner-Up and 3 X 3rd place.
** To download Jesus Loves Me ring tones, you'll need a cell phone mame
** If God doesn't fish, play poker or pull for " the Packers ", exactly what does HE do with his buds?
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