Driver Gets Extension AGAIN

[RashanGary]

I would assume he'd get what the market bears which IS what he is worth.

If the Packers lock him up earlier, they'd probably get a discount off what he's worth.

And in the highly competitive world of the NFL, every edge counts. If everyone has the same money and gets the same talent for the money, nobody would rise to the top. Some teams have more talent but they spend no more than the teams with less. They just find ways to get more for their money.

[Scott Campbell]

Pretty sure this is wrong.

Being right is not important. It's all about how you feel.

(RG) - thanks again for your infinite words of wisdom. Piece of advice - You really need a new line. Your tired sarcasm is no longer working... 2000 post is about enough of the same old same old. You might actually have to (explain why you aren't a hypocrite).

And even more evidence of hypocracy.

[retailguy]

Pretty sure this is wrong.

Being right is not important. It's all about how you feel.

(RG) - thanks again for your infinite words of wisdom. Piece of advice - You really need a new line. Your tired sarcasm is no longer working... 2000 post is about enough of the same old same old. You might actually have to (explain why you aren't a hypocrite).

And even more evidence of hypocracy.

That's all you've got? Why don't you point to a post where you've expressed what YOU think about the 2007 season? Then, the rest of us can point to 500 of those 3300 posts where you ridiculed other peoples opinions.

Quite frankly, I've done nothing more than treat you the way you treat others.... Maybe you ought to think about that... You are a clear example of someone who can "dish it out" but can't take it.

Besides what I think about this team, and its chances for 2007 is WELL documented. Can't say the same for you, but we CAN say that you've ridiculed PLENTY of other opinions including mine..

[Scott Campbell]

Pretty sure this is wrong.

Being right is not important. It's all about how you feel.

(RG) - thanks again for your infinite words of wisdom. Piece of advice - You really need a new line. Your tired sarcasm is no longer working... 2000 post is about enough of the same old same old. You might actually have to (explain why you aren't a hypocrite).

You are a liar.


And even more evidence of hypocracy.

That's all you've got? Why don't you point to a post where you've expressed what YOU think about the 2007 season? Then, the rest of us can point to 500 of those 3300 posts where you ridiculed other peoples opinions.

Quite frankly, I've done nothing more than treat you the way you treat others.... Maybe you ought to think about that... You are a clear example of someone who can "dish it out" but can't take it.

Besides what I think about this team, and its chances for 2007 is WELL documented. Can't say the same for you, but we CAN say that you've ridiculed PLENTY of other opinions including mine..

[retailguy]

I'm sure there is some sarcastic point to reposting my post without adding something, but sarcasm and ridicule don't come naturally to me like it does to you, so, o great one, you'll have to educate me.... again.

[Scott Campbell]

I'm sure there is some sarcastic point to reposting my post without adding something, but sarcasm and ridicule don't come naturally to me like it does to you, so, o great one, you'll have to educate me.... again.

No point really........just screwin with you little buddy.

[retailguy]

Damn, and here I was hoping for something deep. Rats.

[Scott Campbell]

Damn, and here I was hoping for something deep. Rats.

Tell the truth, you're always hoping for some more of this - aren't ya?

[retailguy]

Damn, and here I was hoping for something deep. Rats.

Tell the truth, you're always hoping for some more of this - aren't ya?

While I'm a little tired of the photo today, truth be told, I enjoyed it when I first saw it. It is one of those true "gotcha" moments that we all dread.

I'm not the "Total Sherman Lover" you and others seem to think I am, it is no secret that I think he got a raw deal here, but if you're going to make a change, you make a total change. Whether Harlan bringing in Thompson was a mistake or not, I think we can all agree that once he decided to bring Thompson in, the BIGGER mistake was leaving Sherman as Coach.

It had to be miserable working in that building during the 2005 season, regardless of what anyone thought of either man.

I think history will show that was Harlan's biggest mistake, unless ole Ted turns out to be the disaster that some think he is..... (I'm not in that group, I have said repeatedly that I don't like the short-term aspect of the plan, but long term (maybe 2008, but for sure 2009)I have higher hopes for this team). I have NO expectations on this 2007 squad. I'm hoping for some improvement, but won't really be surprised if this team struggles mightily, especially in the beginning of the season.

[Carolina_Packer]

Yeah, I still don't understand why TT was left with the decision to keep or fire Sherman after he was hired in Jan 2005.

Sherman had just come off of a 10-6 season in 2004, albeit he was bounced from the wild card at home against the Vikes (the Moon shot game). I don't recall what month after TT started, but he extended Sherman, which I thought was curious. Why not just see how he does in your first season as GM and then decide based on the results?

Is there an unwritten rule that says you can't have a HC with an expiring contract?

Would TT have kept Sherman if he had had another 10 win, playoff season, or would he have "gone in a different direction" as he did after the 4-12 anyway?

Did he really want to extend him, or was that a smokescreen to keep the club's confidence up that all was fine? Why would he have needed a smokescreen? Why not just say, let's see how this season goes and deal with it after?

Sherman had one horrible, injury-plagued year, finishes 4-12 and gets shown the door. I still wonder if he was going to go no matter what record he had (barring a deep playoff run or the Super Bowl, obviously).

OK, OK, water under the bridge, and I think we are better off in the long run. Sherman had his chance and basically, in my mind, fired himself by being an overall bum as a GM. The straw that broke the camel's back was moving up, drafting a one year wonder of a punter and then in an embarrassing move having to keep two active punters because the drafted one sucked so bad. It was living proof that the man didn't know what he was doing and needed to be stopped.

That is why the horrible dual-role of HC and GM should ONLY be given to the absolute slam-dunk right guy. Not some guy who is barely experienced as a HC, as Sherman was. That was one of the more curious moves by Harlan and recommendations by Wolf. If Harlan and Wolf had just had more foresight, we could have had better succession when it came to Holmgren. I wonder who was available after the 98 season that would have been running the WC offense? It would have been hard to keep Holmgren under wraps; Seattle just had this incredible offer, and I can't blame him for jumping. I do stop sometimes and wonder who we could have gotten as HC after Holmgren, instead of Ray Rhodes.

[The Leaper]

That is why the horrible dual-role of HC and GM should ONLY be given to the absolute slam-dunk right guy.

I don't think the dual-role should ever be granted. There is simply too much responsibility between the two positions...and their focus is just entirely different. I don't think there has really been a great example of a dual-role ever being successful...especially in the free agency era.

[KYPack]

Yeah, I still don't understand why TT was left with the decision to keep or fire Sherman after he was hired in Jan 2005.

Sherman had just come off of a 10-6 season in 2004, albeit he was bounced from the wild card at home against the Vikes (the Moon shot game). I don't recall what month after TT started, but he extended Sherman, which I thought was curious. Why not just see how he does in your first season as GM and then decide based on the results?

Is there an unwritten rule that says you can't have a HC with an expiring contract?

Would TT have kept Sherman if he had had another 10 win, playoff season, or would he have "gone in a different direction" as he did after the 4-12 anyway?

Did he really want to extend him, or was that a smokescreen to keep the club's confidence up that all was fine? Why would he have needed a smokescreen? Why not just say, let's see how this season goes and deal with it after?

Sherman had one horrible, injury-plagued year, finishes 4-12 and gets shown the door. I still wonder if he was going to go no matter what record he had (barring a deep playoff run or the Super Bowl, obviously).

OK, OK, water under the bridge, and I think we are better off in the long run. Sherman had his chance and basically, in my mind, fired himself by being an overall bum as a GM. The straw that broke the camel's back was moving up, drafting a one year wonder of a punter and then in an embarrassing move having to keep two active punters because the drafted one sucked so bad. It was living proof that the man didn't know what he was doing and needed to be stopped.

That is why the horrible dual-role of HC and GM should ONLY be given to the absolute slam-dunk right guy. Not some guy who is barely experienced as a HC, as Sherman was. That was one of the more curious moves by Harlan and recommendations by Wolf. If Harlan and Wolf had just had more foresight, we could have had better succession when it came to Holmgren. I wonder who was available after the 98 season that would have been running the WC offense? It would have been hard to keep Holmgren under wraps; Seattle just had this incredible offer, and I can't blame him for jumping. I do stop sometimes and wonder who we could have gotten as HC after Holmgren, instead of Ray Rhodes.

I buy 100 % of your post.

Wolf takes a shot in all of this, he helped botch the Sherman as GM situation as much as Harlan.

Harlan should've replaced Hatley after his untimely death.

Sherman was a handicapped by the fact that the Coach/GM model with one man doing one job fails by it's structure. Shermie the GM made short term, short sighted decisions to help his buddy, Sherman the coach.

I liked Sherman the person, but when it all failed he had to go.

[woodbuck27]

It's v. difficult to read TT.

I hope we don't make a mistake with Williams.

ie trade him just for a draft pick. We need this DT anyway.

If I had to guess, TT is playing coy with Williams. By not offering him an extension this offseason, he's given him a "contract year" or at least a tangible incentive to play out of his mind this year. It's entirely likely that once the season starts, and assuming Williams is playing well, that TT will swoop in and offer him a good offer on an extension. If he's not playing well (unlikely but possible) the lack of progress on an extension might be enough to motivate him.

But yeah, Thompson is hard to read. He went down to the wire on extending Kampman his RFA season didn't he? I wonder if that's his modus operandi or just him learning on the job.

TT shows a lot of the signs that he is on his learning curvre, and that is simply normal and OK for him to at least admit as much to himself if not in public.

[woodbuck27]

I have to say, this was unexpected. Other than Favre and Kampman, I dont know of anyone more deserving of an extension and more money than Donald Driver. I have, heh heh....... bitched and moaned..... about Thompsons moves (or lack thereof) as much as anyone. Hate to admit it, but old Teddy really suprised me with this move. If he keeps making smart moves like this, I may actually gain a little respect for him. Now if only he could find a free agent that will help our chances to get to the playoffs this year....

(lol, I hope Thompson is not dealing with Driver the way he dealt with Sherman. Extend a contract, then fire the guy.)

Anyone know where this puts us in cap space now? Other than Williams, if the spare cap room is not intended for a free agent, who else is worth signing. Personally, I would not mind seeing Williams traded off if Harrell is as good as Thompson thinks he is. Good DT's are hard to come by, and we seem to have an over abundance. Otherwise, if he could unload KGB in a decent trade, that would be nice too, I never have liked having "situational" players taking up roster spots.

We have to be patient with TT.

Recall the way he handled Al Harris last season. Hopefully the same should apply to Cory Williams. We arn't all that deep at DT even though it's a strength for us.

TT will be looking carefully at Williams and Morency this season for an extension.

If Dave Rayner wins the kicking job he will also go on that watch list I expect.

[woodbuck27]

I've got a hunch that there might have been issues between Mike Sherman and Ted Thompson throughout the 2005 season.

4-12 was just a good (if not totally viable) excuse for a quick exit.