Trade Possibilities

[Packers4Ever]

" Not sure if I want to - "


Of course you know that's just

[woodbuck27]

Re: Trade Possibilities

Careful.... Comments like this will get you kicked off the party bus.

95% of Superfan's posts on Ted Thompson aren't negative. There's where the difference is.

When Ted Thompson makes it clearly evident that he's more than just full of crap.

You'll find that there won't be any serious criticism of him by sensable people who are as dedicated as you are as a Packer fan.

Too bad that some Packer fans have the parts to tell it as it is. To not be locked in, as if they are issuing threats to the CIA.

How any serious and really concerned Packer fan can sit back after the off season we witnessed, and go all Glory on Ted Thompson is in my view a real joke.

Smarten up Packer fans.

[KYPack]

This is an OK thread.

A trade that is a possibility.

The Rams have a log jam at TE. That Dominique Byrd is 4th on their depth chart. The Rams need DLine help, espec DT's.

Dominique Byrd had 39 catches for a TD. He also had a 19 yd average.

Cole is a man on the bubble. Cole for Byrd seems like a trade that TT would be comfortable with. Maybe the tortoise would pull the trigger?

[woodbuck27]

This is an OK thread.

A trade that is a possibility.

The Rams have a log jam at TE. That Dominique Byrd is 4th on their depth chart. The Rams need DLine help, espec DT's.

Dominique Byrd had 39 catches for a TD. He also had a 19 yd average.

Cole is a man on the bubble. Cole for Byrd seems like a trade that TT would be comfortable with. Maybe the tortoise would pull the trigger?

That would be a reasonable move KY.

Dominique Byrd was a solid prospect out of college. I havn't followed up on him much but those #'s you put up arn't too bad for a Rookie TE.

[rpiotr01]

Re: Trade Possibilities

How any serious and really concerned Packer fan can sit back after the off season we witnessed, and go all Glory on Ted Thompson is in my view a real joke.

Smarten up Packer fans.

I don't think this was a bad offseason. Just boring. Uneventful.

If you want a BAD offseason, look back to 2005. Now there's a disaster! I mean, losing Ahman hurts us in 2007, but beyond that I doubt there's much left in the tank. But losing Wahle not only hurt the team in 2005, it hurt the team for the next 5 seasons! Even losing Javon in 2006 was much worse than anything that happened or didnt happen this offseason.

Come on, you really need to put the stinkyness of the past 3 offseasons in order here...

[woodbuck27]

Re: Trade Possibilities

How any serious and really concerned Packer fan can sit back after the off season we witnessed, and go all Glory on Ted Thompson is in my view a real joke.

Smarten up Packer fans.

I don't think this was a bad offseason. Just boring. Uneventful.

If you want a BAD offseason, look back to 2005. Now there's a disaster! I mean, losing Ahman hurts us in 2007, but beyond that I doubt there's much left in the tank. But losing Wahle not only hurt the team in 2005, it hurt the team for the next 5 seasons! Even losing Javon in 2006 was much worse than anything that happened or didnt happen this offseason.

Come on, you really need to put the stinkyness of the past 3 offseasons in order here...

I do see your point but the nothingness of this off season really pissed me off.

I'm not surprized that Ahman Green is gone. As a matter of fact I expected it.

I felt that someone would pay him. He got an unbelievably great offer that TT couldn't match. Yet today we sit on $13 Million CAP space.

So OK. . .

After that, it was TT's first priority to bring in some RB with experience and uppside. To just sit on what we had at RB and draft a player such as Brandon Jackson doesn't shake down as intelligence.

People are thinking ( I read recently) that he hoped to get Marshawn Lynch.

Well if that was the case, then TT should have made the necessary move to trade up to pick him. TT had to go for it.

Failing that, TT had to make some other move to (again) give us more experience at RB than we presently see.

He had to upgrade our 'O'. We had need at RB,FB,TE.

The FA period could have very well reduced pressure at those positions to enable better depth via the draft. Get that FB and TE via free agency and take some heat off himself.

Then,

He should have tried a little harder to secure Randy Moss. All it would have taken was our third. Randy Moss or James Jones for 2007. A no brainer.

It's the same ole - same ole with TT, that piss's me off.

He never gets it done. He's asleep at the wheel.

[Bretsky]

This is an OK thread.

A trade that is a possibility.

The Rams have a log jam at TE. That Dominique Byrd is 4th on their depth chart. The Rams need DLine help, espec DT's.

Dominique Byrd had 39 catches for a TD. He also had a 19 yd average.

Cole is a man on the bubble. Cole for Byrd seems like a trade that TT would be comfortable with. Maybe the tortoise would pull the trigger?

Good and Practical one; Even the we're fine there crew knows our TE situation is bleak. I have faith they are talking with teams like the Rams about upgrading that sad position.

[Packers4Ever]

Re: Trade Possibilities

How any serious and really concerned Packer fan can sit back after the off season we witnessed, and go all Glory on Ted Thompson is in my view a real joke.

Smarten up Packer fans.

I don't think this was a bad offseason. Just boring. Uneventful.

If you want a BAD offseason, look back to 2005. Now there's a disaster! I mean, losing Ahman hurts us in 2007, but beyond that I doubt there's much left in the tank. But losing Wahle not only hurt the team in 2005, it hurt the team for the next 5 seasons! Even losing Javon in 2006 was much worse than anything that happened or didnt happen this offseason.

Come on, you really need to put the stinkyness of the past 3 offseasons in order here...

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I think what Woody was referring to here was partly what occurred in the months before you joined us, rpiotr01, first losing Ahman which we knew was possible but who really thought it would happen when obviously we would need him, or SOMEone as RB. But we understood why it could not be, dollar-wise. So we patiently waited til FA got here, thinking now the problem would be solved hopefully without too much fuss. But that didn't happen either. Now we're looking forward to the Draft in late April and you are aware of the story from there on. Add to that the possibility of losing our QB for 2007 and forever - so what appeared to be uneventful and boring to you was much more than that to us, it was total frustration to think that obvious problems were being overlooked (or ignored?) that should have been - and could have been - attended to.

So here we sit, 4-5 months later at status quo. Situation normal, (and you know the rest of that line.) So while I understand where you're coming from, please understand we need some relief and assurance that this will be the year we break out, let's just hope it happens.

[The Shadow]

Personally, I am pretty pleased with the offseason. Thompson has harvested another crop of promising young players, established a healthy salary cap situation, and locked up players like Barnett & Jenkins.
It's all good.

[4and12to12and4]

WE NEED TO PICK UP A GOOD TE, PERIOD. THE GUYS WE HAVE WILL NOT GET IT DONE, AND WILL HAVE FAVRE ON HIS BACK MANY A TIMES ON SUNDAY. TT, GET A FRIGGIN TE IN HERE!!!!

[HarveyWallbangers]

Q: Kevin of Chippewa Falls - Tom- when you analyze the Packers current roster they seem to have an oversupply of players at certain positions (i.e.- defensive tackle and wide receiver) that could help in a trade in attracting some talent in positions we need some help in (i.e.- running back and tight end). Your thoughts?

A: Tom Silverstein - Good afternoon everyone, I just got back from practice and I'm ready to take your answers. I've only got an hour because I've got a ton of work to do, but I'll try to get to as many questions as possible. Kevin -- The only area of value where the Packers have a glut of players is defensive line. Since that position is one of the hardest to acquire good talent, they're dealing from a position of strength. They very well could trade Corey Williams for a running back or tight end. Williams is in the final year of his deal probably will leave in free agency, so he'd be the most likely to go. There might be some interest in someone like Mike Montgomery or Jason Hunter, although it's unlikely they would draw much in compensation.

Q: Jesse of Atlanta - Tom, I have been hearing that the Colts could use a defensive tackle or two after losing a couple of their players. IF the Packers were to pull the trigger on one of their promising young tackles, do the Colts have anybody to offer that might benefit this team?

A: Tom Silverstein - That's a good question. The Colts are not deep at running back so that's not an option. They are deep at tight end and might be willing to deal either Bryan Fletcher or Ben Utecht, both of whom are good pass catchers. That would be one team I'm sure the Packers would be calling if they try to make a trade.

[Lurker64]

WE NEED TO PICK UP A GOOD TE, PERIOD. THE GUYS WE HAVE WILL NOT GET IT DONE, AND WILL HAVE FAVRE ON HIS BACK MANY A TIMES ON SUNDAY. TT, GET A FRIGGIN TE IN HERE!!!!

Our concern with tight ends is less that "they can't block" and more that "they can't catch or hold onto the damn ball". Bubba can block, that's the one thing he was still good at last year.

Tight ends failing to catch the ball when it's thrown to them will not result in any more QB pressures, hits, ro sacks.

[The Leaper]

Re: Trade Possibilities

It's the same ole - same ole with TT, that piss's me off. He never gets it done. He's asleep at the wheel.

I'm not sure how anyone can paint the picture with that broad a brush.

While Thompson certainly has his faults, it certainly can't be said that he lacks strengths. The guy is one of the better evaluators of college talent in the NFL. Very few of the 30-some picks he's made in the last 3 years have been duds, and he has gotten tremendous value with numerous picks. That trend also extends back to his days in Seattle.

Very few GMs have Ron Wolf's jack-of-all-trades talent. We should consider ourselves lucky to have had a guy like Wolf in town, especially at a time in the NFL that played to his advantage with the onset of free agency. Thompson is a good GM, and he's still on the low end of the totem pole in terms of experience. Ron Wolf was a grizzled veteran who had been in that capacity for years when he came to Green Bay...I doubt he was as polished and successful in his first 3-4 years as a GM.

Like any player, you have to give Thompson a chance to develop his skills and base of knowledge. He has a strong set of characteristics in his favor, but needs to develop several key areas to become a great GM. Guys in the front office develop and improve just as much as guys on the field, and you have to allow for that and not expect elite performance in all aspects from a guy who is a first time GM.

[GBRulz]

Re: Trade Possibilities

Ron Wolf was a grizzled veteran who had been in that capacity for years when he came to Green Bay...I doubt he was as polished and successful in his first 3-4 years as a GM.

I think his prior experience was head of personnel for the Jets, the same as TT did with Seattle. If I recall correctly, Wolf came into GB with as much GM experience as TT.

[Zool]

Re: Trade Possibilities

Ron Wolf was a grizzled veteran who had been in that capacity for years when he came to Green Bay...I doubt he was as polished and successful in his first 3-4 years as a GM.

I think his prior experience was head of personnel for the Jets, the same as TT did with Seattle. If I recall correctly, Wolf came into GB with as much GM experience as TT.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ron_Wolf

Ron Wolf is the former American football general manager (GM) of the NFL's Green Bay Packers, and played a significant role in personel operations with the Oakland and Los Angeles Raiders from 1966-1975, and again from 1978-1990. He joined Green Bay's front office in November 1991 from a personnel director's job with the New York Jets.