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    He'll never be Brett Favre. However, there is nothing that says he can't be pretty good after watching him play last night. He moved the ball, didn't turn the ball over, looked comfortable and scored points. He did the things you want your quarterback to do.

    There are people in GB who feel Favre was abandoned and they feel so much for Brett that they feel they were personally abandoned by the Packers. Eventually their emotional fanism turns into hating a guy that they know nothing about. There are people who just don't want Rodgers to succeed and will never give him his due. After Favre, this is what we can expect.

    For those who just want to see good things for this team and had an open mind, it's hard to walk away from that game and not think Rodgers has a chance. 1st round QB's are far from a sure thing and he is still far from a sure thing but he showed a little glimps that maybe he can be a winning QB. I don't think anyone should come out and crown his ass after one good TC and a good preseason game, but an objective mind would be open after the showing he had tonight. Unfortunately, there are many non-objective minds in the emotional rollercoster of Packer fanism leading up to the post Favre era.
    Formerly known as JustinHarrell.

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    Re: Aaron Rodgers

    Originally posted by JustinHarrell
    He'll never be Brett Favre. However, there is nothing that says he can't be pretty good after watching him play last night. He moved the ball, didn't turn the ball over, looked comfortable and scored points. He did the things you want your quarterback to do.

    There are people in GB who feel Favre was abandoned and they feel so much for Brett that they feel they were personally abandoned by the Packers. Eventually their emotional fanism turns into hating a guy that they know nothing about. There are people who just don't want Rodgers to succeed and will never give him his due. After Favre, this is what we can expect.

    For those who just want to see good things for this team and had an open mind, it's hard to walk away from that game and not think Rodgers has a chance. 1st round QB's are far from a sure thing and he is still far from a sure thing but he showed a little glimps that maybe he can be a winning QB. I don't think anyone should come out and crown his ass after one good TC and a good preseason game, but an objective mind would be open after the showing he had tonight. Unfortunately, there are many non-objective minds in the emotional rollercoster of Packer fanism leading up to the post Favre era.

    I'm gonna catch the replay today, but you might want to keep things in perspective. It's preseason and he's facing 2nd and 3rd teams. Tarvaris Jackson looked solid playing against 2nd and 3rd teams as a rookie last year and Tyler Thigpen played well Friday night but again, against scrubs.

    You need to see it in a real game for it to mean too much. Still, it sure is better to look good than to suck when you get your chance in preseason.

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    • #3
      Right, Ras. I'm not going out and crowning him the next champion or anything. He showed some very good things. He looked like a starting QB. Was it against the highest competition? NOPE. Did he have the best guys on his side though? NOPE.

      He was the best player on the field for two quarters. The best of the 2nd stringers, but he was the shiney star. He did as good as he could have done.

      The Packers have taken some lumps the last couple years. They turned over almost their entire roster in two years. Favre was there to bridge the gap and now Rodgers is going to walk into a good situation. I always want to see a young QB get good coaching and get a good situation. McCarthy seems like a great QB coach and the situation that he's going to walk into is going to look pretty good thanks to Brett dealing with the rebuilding.

      Am I going to go out and bet on the 2009 season for the Packers to win 10 games just because Rodgers is a superstar? NOPE. I'm not crowning him at all. I am looking at the surrounding situation and looking at last nights play and seeing a possibly successfull situation for Rodgers. As a Packer fan, I think you have to feel a little better after watching him disect an NFL 2nd string defense with his 2nd string offense in his first oppertunity this year.
      Formerly known as JustinHarrell.

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      • #4
        The best thing about Rodgers last night was that he made plays even though things were breaking down. The way he kept his head was more impressive than anything he did physically. I think that's significant no matter who the other guys on the field were.
        I can't run no more with that lawless crowd
        While the killers in high places say their prayers out loud
        But they've summoned, they've summoned up a thundercloud
        They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen

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        • #5
          Rodgers played good there’s no denying that, but I’ll hold off on getting too excited about him until he proves he can do it on a regular basis and in a real game. However, that’s not to say that you can’t take anything away from pre-season games because you can. If you remember Matt Hasselbeck kicked ass in pre-season the year before he got traded and now he’s playing great for Seattle. The main thing I take away from pre-season play is consistency. If Rodgers shows that he can on a regular basis go out and destroy 2nd team defenses then I would say that he’s ready to take the next step and have a chance as a starter. However, if he goes out and blows next week than what can we expect when he’s forced to play week in and week out against starting NFL defenses?

          Bottom line is that it was great is see him play good yesterday and hopefully he can do that for the next three games as well.
          Draft Brandin Cooks WR OSU!

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          • #6
            Very well said, Packfan

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            • #7
              Rodgers

              Originally posted by JustinHarrell
              Right, Ras. I'm not going out and crowning him the next champion or anything. He showed some very good things. He looked like a starting QB. Was it against the highest competition? NOPE. Did he have the best guys on his side though? NOPE.

              He was the best player on the field for two quarters. The best of the 2nd stringers, but he was the shiney star. He did as good as he could have done.

              The Packers have taken some lumps the last couple years. They turned over almost their entire roster in two years. Favre was there to bridge the gap and now Rodgers is going to walk into a good situation. I always want to see a young QB get good coaching and get a good situation. McCarthy seems like a great QB coach and the situation that he's going to walk into is going to look pretty good thanks to Brett dealing with the rebuilding.

              Am I going to go out and bet on the 2009 season for the Packers to win 10 games just because Rodgers is a superstar? NOPE. I'm not crowning him at all. I am looking at the surrounding situation and looking at last nights play and seeing a possibly successfull situation for Rodgers. As a Packer fan, I think you have to feel a little better after watching him disect an NFL 2nd string defense with his 2nd string offense in his first oppertunity this year.
              Rodgers success like most QB's, will be tied to the talent around him. Unless something changes, he will be limited in the fact that he will not have a home run threat. What is ironic is the guy you support so much has limited Rodgers chances.

              Think about it. Driver will be at the age where WR's slow down. Jennings and Jones are possesion type guys. We have NO TE's. We have no one at RB who is a threat to go the distance. Please don't tell me the D will carry him either. Woodson and Harris have 1 or 2 great years left, and then they will lose a step. You see what we have to replace them.

              I feel sorry for Rodgers cause besides replacing a legend, he works for a GM who really does have his head stuck up his ass when it comes to offense. Oh, by the way, Eric Johnson with 2 catches for 19 yards in 3 offensive series..........

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              • #8
                Re: Rodgers

                Originally posted by Packnut
                Jennings and Jones are possesion type guys.


                I don't consider Jennings a possesion type guy. Though I might start considering him injury prone.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Packnut
                  Originally posted by JustinHarrell
                  Right, Ras. I'm not going out and crowning him the next champion or anything. He showed some very good things. He looked like a starting QB. Was it against the highest competition? NOPE. Did he have the best guys on his side though? NOPE.

                  He was the best player on the field for two quarters. The best of the 2nd stringers, but he was the shiney star. He did as good as he could have done.

                  The Packers have taken some lumps the last couple years. They turned over almost their entire roster in two years. Favre was there to bridge the gap and now Rodgers is going to walk into a good situation. I always want to see a young QB get good coaching and get a good situation. McCarthy seems like a great QB coach and the situation that he's going to walk into is going to look pretty good thanks to Brett dealing with the rebuilding.

                  Am I going to go out and bet on the 2009 season for the Packers to win 10 games just because Rodgers is a superstar? NOPE. I'm not crowning him at all. I am looking at the surrounding situation and looking at last nights play and seeing a possibly successfull situation for Rodgers. As a Packer fan, I think you have to feel a little better after watching him disect an NFL 2nd string defense with his 2nd string offense in his first oppertunity this year.
                  Rodgers success like most QB's, will be tied to the talent around him. Unless something changes, he will be limited in the fact that he will not have a home run threat. What is ironic is the guy you support so much has limited Rodgers chances.

                  Think about it. Driver will be at the age where WR's slow down. Jennings and Jones are possesion type guys. We have NO TE's. We have no one at RB who is a threat to go the distance. Please don't tell me the D will carry him either. Woodson and Harris have 1 or 2 great years left, and then they will lose a step. You see what we have to replace them.

                  I feel sorry for Rodgers cause besides replacing a legend, he works for a GM who really does have his head stuck up his ass when it comes to offense. Oh, by the way, Eric Johnson with 2 catches for 19 yards in 3 offensive series..........

                  He made it through 3 series without an injury?t
                  I can't run no more with that lawless crowd
                  While the killers in high places say their prayers out loud
                  But they've summoned, they've summoned up a thundercloud
                  They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by PaCkFan_n_MD
                    Rodgers played good there’s no denying that, but I’ll hold off on getting too excited about him until he proves he can do it on a regular basis and in a real game.

                    What I'm taking away so far is not so much about Rodgers. There's no telling on him until regular season games. However, he does look improved. And that reflects well on M3 and his ability to develop QB's.

                    IMO, our post Favre fate is tied more closely to M3's ability to develop an NFL QB than it is to any single player.

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                    • #11
                      I think the line is coming together. WE have a couple good young WR's coming up. We have a good young RB coming up. Korey Hall mgiht be the FB of the future. We need a TE and we need to keep our feelers open for playmakers, but I see a solid base being built. Guys are leaving but hopefully we have guys coming in that can pick it up. I guess your negative view comes from you expecting our GM to fail us and my positive veiw comes from my expectation that our GM will succeed for us. It could go either way. How much confidence do you have in TT is the question.

                      I have a lot.
                      You have very little

                      Our outlooks on the future are opposite.

                      Agree to disagree, that is where we stand. Hopefully it's a fun season and a fun next couple years.
                      Formerly known as JustinHarrell.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Scott Campbell


                        What I'm taking away so far is not so much about Rodgers. There's no telling on him until regular season games. However, he does look improved. And that reflects well on M3 and his ability to develop QB's.

                        IMO, our post Favre fate is tied more closely to M3's ability to develop an NFL QB than it is to any single player.
                        VERY true statement. There are good guys out there. QB's, more than any other position, need a knack for making plays. Some strange, intangible quality where they just come out on top more often than not. Brett had that. Rodgers might, who knows. Paul Thompson might, Ingle Martin might, some AFL guy like Kurt Warner might. The Packers have to keep scowering the QB talent pools and giving guys real chances. One guy has to rise to the top. Rodgers took a right step here, but he's not the only possible asnwer. He's just the most likely answer right now.
                        Formerly known as JustinHarrell.

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                        • #13
                          Johnson

                          Originally posted by Joemailman
                          Originally posted by Packnut
                          Originally posted by JustinHarrell
                          Right, Ras. I'm not going out and crowning him the next champion or anything. He showed some very good things. He looked like a starting QB. Was it against the highest competition? NOPE. Did he have the best guys on his side though? NOPE.

                          He was the best player on the field for two quarters. The best of the 2nd stringers, but he was the shiney star. He did as good as he could have done.

                          The Packers have taken some lumps the last couple years. They turned over almost their entire roster in two years. Favre was there to bridge the gap and now Rodgers is going to walk into a good situation. I always want to see a young QB get good coaching and get a good situation. McCarthy seems like a great QB coach and the situation that he's going to walk into is going to look pretty good thanks to Brett dealing with the rebuilding.

                          Am I going to go out and bet on the 2009 season for the Packers to win 10 games just because Rodgers is a superstar? NOPE. I'm not crowning him at all. I am looking at the surrounding situation and looking at last nights play and seeing a possibly successfull situation for Rodgers. As a Packer fan, I think you have to feel a little better after watching him disect an NFL 2nd string defense with his 2nd string offense in his first oppertunity this year.
                          Rodgers success like most QB's, will be tied to the talent around him. Unless something changes, he will be limited in the fact that he will not have a home run threat. What is ironic is the guy you support so much has limited Rodgers chances.

                          Think about it. Driver will be at the age where WR's slow down. Jennings and Jones are possesion type guys. We have NO TE's. We have no one at RB who is a threat to go the distance. Please don't tell me the D will carry him either. Woodson and Harris have 1 or 2 great years left, and then they will lose a step. You see what we have to replace them.

                          I feel sorry for Rodgers cause besides replacing a legend, he works for a GM who really does have his head stuck up his ass when it comes to offense. Oh, by the way, Eric Johnson with 2 catches for 19 yards in 3 offensive series..........

                          He made it through 3 series without an injury?t

                          Using the injury card on Johnson with what we have for a first rd pick in Harrell is a bit foolish. Then again, may-be you like our TE's.......

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                          • #14
                            GBRulz seems to like Zac Alcorn...
                            I can't run no more with that lawless crowd
                            While the killers in high places say their prayers out loud
                            But they've summoned, they've summoned up a thundercloud
                            They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen

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                            • #15
                              Im not quick to say rodgers is the next coming cause most likely hes not but as a packer fan i would love for him to become great hopefully then the post favre era wont look as bleak as it seems right now

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