Be Careful on the Defensive Accolades.

[oregonpackfan]

The Packers defensive unit looked overwhelming tonight.

Before we Packer fans celebrate deliously, however, we need to remember that the Seattle offense played without their starting QB and their starting tackles. It might have been a completely different game with Hassleback and the two regular tackles in there.

Going back to the positive aspects of the first team defense, I was impressed with the intensity and the pursuit to the ball by all the members of the Packer defense.

If this defense plays this well during the season, they will give the Packer offense more chances to score.

[Partial]

Completely agree. Walter Jones completely changes that game. So does Hasselback. Playmakers win football games. While Jenkins looked like one tonight, he wouldn't have against Jones. Hasselback is infinitely better than Wallace.

[cpk1994]

Completely agree. Walter Jones completely changes that game. So does Hasselback. Playmakers win football games. While Jenkins looked like one tonight, he wouldn't have against Jones. Hasselback is infinitely better than Wallace.

How do you know that Jenkins would't have success against Jones. I think you are insulting Jenkins with that statement. As for Hasselback it may have been worse bnecause he is not as mobile as Wallace.

[b bulldog]

Agree but the way they are flying to the ball and the constant pressure, these are worthy of excitement. The two tackles would have made an improvement but from our first stringers to our fourth stringers, we were getting pressure and making plays.

[RashanGary]

I agree. Two of their top 3 players were out. I think we can be a very good team but this is too good to be true. I want to see the whole preseason and a couple reg season games before we start crowning any group on this team.

Still, we looked very good and there is reason to think our team can compete with the Bears.

[Lurker64]

How many Tackles of the calibre of Jones do you think Jenkins is going to see this year, anyway?

[Partial]

Completely agree. Walter Jones completely changes that game. So does Hasselback. Playmakers win football games. While Jenkins looked like one tonight, he wouldn't have against Jones. Hasselback is infinitely better than Wallace.

How do you know that Jenkins would't have success against Jones. I think you are insulting Jenkins with that statement. As for Hasselback it may have been worse bnecause he is not as mobile as Wallace.

Jones is the best player at his position in the league. He might be the best ever.

Hasselback would go through his reads much faster. All these guys can throw the ball, it's the mental element what seperates a lot of these guys.

[Partial]

How many Tackles of the calibre of Jones do you think Jenkins is going to see this year, anyway?

He was facing a guy who is a back-up, though. There is a HUGE drop-off between solid starter to backup. He'll face plenty of good tackles and will be effective but not THAT effective. I mean he was in the backfield on just about every play tonight.

[b bulldog]

sEATTLE HAD BOTH OF THEIR STARTING t'S OUT OF THE GAME.

[RashanGary]

Right Partial. WE have no weak links on the D-line though. Every game there is going to be some weak link that we take advantage of. You eluded to this earlier I think.

[Partial]

Right Partial. WE have no weak links on the D-line though. Every game there is going to be some weak link that we take advantage of. You eluded to this earlier I think.

Not necessarily on the line. We're solid at every position but SS. We need to capitalize on the places where the other team may not be as strong. That is all game planning and preparation.

[RashanGary]

I think our SS could be OK. Manuel couldn't run all last off season. He's not fast or agile to begin with so to take away his ability to train in the offseason is taking away his ability to compete. He also had a year to learn the defense. I think he might be OK. There are a couple of things that you can look at and say "Maybe it was circumstance more than his inablity to play in this league"

[b bulldog]

The S position is the weakest link on the D at the moment. Collins wiff on that tackle is inexcusable.

[cpk1994]

Completely agree. Walter Jones completely changes that game. So does Hasselback. Playmakers win football games. While Jenkins looked like one tonight, he wouldn't have against Jones. Hasselback is infinitely better than Wallace.

How do you know that Jenkins would't have success against Jones. I think you are insulting Jenkins with that statement. As for Hasselback it may have been worse bnecause he is not as mobile as Wallace.

Jones is the best player at his position in the league. He might be the best ever.

Hasselback would go through his reads much faster. All these guys can throw the ball, it's the mental element what seperates a lot of these guys.

But Jones is not invinceable. I trhink Jenkins would be very close in production if Jones was playing. Best ever?Hardly. I can think of a few others before I even start thinking of Jones.

[HarveyWallbangers]

It didn't look like a whiff to me. Looked like Collins had the tackle, and Barnett came up and hit him... knocking him off the guy