Something Realistic: Grade the 2003 Packer draft

[MJZiggy]

I don't dislike Sherman, I just don't believe he's as good a GM for the Packers right now as Thompson.

[Anti-Polar Bear]

What about me? I think TT is a better GM, but I like Sherman, what am I?

A Thompson-Sherman hybrid, I guess.

[retailguy]

What about me? I think TT is a better GM, but I like Sherman, what am I?

A Thompson-Sherman hybrid, I guess.

I can live with that....

[Anti-Polar Bear]

I don't dislike Sherman, I just don't believe he's as good a GM for the Packers right now as Thompson.

Until Thompson win 10 or more games in a season, or the SB, he will always be inferior to Sherman.

[retailguy]

I don't dislike Sherman, I just don't believe he's as good a GM for the Packers right now as Thompson.

Then don't make your points by bashing sherman. If you read what you wrote it doesn't sound that way..... I genuinely thought you disliked the guy.

[Packgator]

2003 Draft = D- (thank goodness for Barnett)

[Scott Campbell]

2003 Draft = D- (thank goodness for Barnett)

Thank goodness Bob Harlan had the good sense to take away the GM title from Sherman.

And welcome aboard.

[mraynrand]

Harlan probably shouldn't have given him the GM role in the first place. I thought that Sherman made the best of the situation and worked his ass off. Probably the best move he made as GM was bringing aboard Mark Hatley. I don't think you can blame Sherman for Hatley's death (although I'm sure there are some who might). That probably spelled doom for Sherman, since Hatley might have stopped him from wasting a pick(s) on BJ and trading up for fewer picks.

One thing is certain - Sherman only got three years as GM. Other GMs have been given a lot more rope with which to hang themselves.

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Tank

What does Sherman do in the Post-Favre era at Quarterback? Does he trade a 5th round pick for Peyton Manning?

[Anti-Polar Bear]

Harlan probably shouldn't have given him the GM role in the first place. I thought that Sherman made the best of the situation and worked his ass off. Probably the best move he made as GM was bringing aboard Mark Hatley. I don't think you can blame Sherman for Hatley's death (although I'm sure there are some who might). That probably spelled doom for Sherman, since Hatley might have stopped him from wasting a pick(s) on BJ and trading up for fewer picks.

One thing is certain - Sherman only got three years as GM. Other GMs have been given a lot more rope with which to hang themselves.

This guy is Greenday. I am sure.

[retailguy]

Tank

What does Sherman do in the Post-Favre era at Quarterback? Does he trade a 5th round pick for Peyton Manning?

REBUILD - Why is this not clear?

[retailguy]

One thing is certain - Sherman only got three years as GM. Other GMs have been given a lot more rope with which to hang themselves.

Bingo! Too few draft choices to establish whether or not he was truly a bad GM. Did he have issues? You bet, he gets FULL blame for trading up. It is crystal clear he had no understanding how valuable draft choices were, or if he knew he completely disregarded his knowledge.

Harlan made the choice because he believed the job was too big for one person. I see ZERO evidence that he was displeased with Mike Sherman.

[Anti-Polar Bear]

Tank

What does Sherman do in the Post-Favre era at Quarterback? Does he trade a 5th round pick for Peyton Manning?

REBUILD - Why is this not clear?

I agree.

[Scott Campbell]

I see ZERO evidence that he was displeased with Mike Sherman.

Wow. What about the evidence that he's now a O-line coach for the Texans? Somebody somewhere had to be pretty displeased at some point.

[retailguy]

I see ZERO evidence that he was displeased with Mike Sherman.

Wow. What about the evidence that he's now a O-line coach for the Texans? Somebody somewhere had to be pretty displeased at some point.

Scott,

Bob Harlan did not terminate nor (near as we can tell) advocate firing Mike Sherman. He stated at the time, that the move was made ONLY because he didn't believe one person could do the job.

Sherman turned down two offensive coordinator roles, one with Buffalo, and I think one with the Jets. There may have been another that I can't remember.

He fully intended to sit out the year by his own words, and that of his wife.

Oh, by the way, you forgot about the "assistant head coach" designation. He's more than an O'line coach.