Rodgers

[b bulldog]

Clever comment, his play so far speaks for itself. Hopefully he can get some time with the ones to see how he would do with them. Very hard to judge him until he is going against the oppossing teams ones with our ones.

[Cheesehead Craig]

The radio guys last night were saying how Rodgers has improved his play every year he has been with the Packers and he's done it with very little playing time, which is really surprising. Larry McCarren stated that he was very down on Rodgers from when he was drafted. But now he has seen tremendous improvement and is really starting to like the guy.

I think Rodgers is going to continue to shine and be a very solid QB. For the 2nd Q when he was in there, many of the 1st string def players were in still from what it sounded like on the radio and he did pretty well (when not fumbling).

[cpk1994]

Re: Rodgers

The next time Rodgers hits a receiver in stride will be the first time. Then you all can vote him into the HOF.

Well you missed last nights game then. The ball he threw to Jones up the sideline. The one the ref ruled an incompletion but later overturned was in stride.

[esoxx]

I was most impressed with Rodgers TD pass to Jones. Showed a lot of zip and accuracy on the pass. Jones was covered but Rodgers made the play. It showed me he's capable of making plays instead of just "taking what the defense gives him."

The "taking what the defense gives them" QB's are a dime a dozen and nothing special. They need great players and defense to succeed (see Trent Dilfer in Balt 2000 as just one example). All dink and dunk which spells M-E-D-I-C-O-R-E.

Rodgers showed me on that play he has some potential beyond the dink and dunk crowd of pedestrian QB's out there. Hopefully it wasn't just an illusion but rather a preview of things to come down the road.

[LL2]

Rodgers will be the QB in 08.

I agree and I think we will be alright with Rodgers. The thing is if the PAck will 10 or 11 games Favre might be tempted to come back.

[4and12to12and4]

The talk of AR beating out Favre as the starting QB is a friggin joke. I agree that AR FINALLY is showing that he might be a successful QB in this league. His passes are more accurate and decisive, his arm strength is obviously improved, and he probably knows the playbook backwards by heart. Having said all that, his instincts in the pocket are sadly inferior to Brett's. He would be getting sacked two to three times a game IMO. And Favre's arm is still stronger than his even at the age of 38, which is unreal. Favre takes more chances then him, but he has the talent to zip it into triple coverage even at this point in his career. AR is much improved, but I don't see him surpassing Favre any time soon, barring injury. Brett's our man. Those here who want AR in are out of you're minds. We have one of the greatest QB's to ever play the game on our sidelines, and he hasn't lost much these past few years. He still has all the tools to have a great season, and he is WAY more savvy in the pocket than AR. He avoids potential sacks constantly because of his great pocket instincts. I hope AR sits two more years, and Brett leads us back to the SB next year. With our defense, if we stay healthy, it is plausible. Our run defense may end up being top three in the NFL this year, and if our corners stay healthy, we could actually have a better defense than the Bears, because they make plays, but can't stop the run. I'm so excited to watch our defense dominate teams this year. I saw schemes and plays in that Seattle game that I had never seen before. Now that most of our defense is in the third year of the same scheme, the comfort level will allow for more deceit and big play potential. Watching them in that 1st quarter was awesome. EVERYONE was making plays. I know it's preseason, but we are so far ahead of where we were last year at this time, it's very exciting to see.

[Scott Campbell]

And Favre's arm is still stronger than his even at the age of 38, which is unreal.

With Vick out, is there anyone in the league with a stronger arm than Favre?

[retailguy]

And Favre's arm is still stronger than his even at the age of 38, which is unreal.

With Vick out, is there anyone in the league with a stronger arm than Favre?

Vick had a strong arm? I thought his arm strength was just average and his claim to fame was that he was really a running back?

[Harlan Huckleby]

Vick's arm is gonna be awesome on the prison football team. He's gonna be a legend - the new Burt Reynolds.

[4and12to12and4]

Vick does have a strong, inaccurate arm. He threw the ball over 70 yards in one of the Probowl events a couple of years ago, and he has a pretty good lazer too. But Favre's arm strength and accuracy can only be compared to one other QB I've seen play, Mr. John Elway. He had a rocket, and very, very similar throwing style, being able to make things happen out of the pocket. Know one else that I can think of even comes close.

[retailguy]

Vick does have a strong, inaccurate arm. He threw the ball over 70 yards in one of the Probowl events a couple of years ago, and he has a pretty good lazer too. But Favre's arm strength and accuracy can only be compared to one other QB I've seen play, Mr. John Elway. He had a rocket, and very, very similar throwing style, being able to make things happen out of the pocket. Know one else that I can think of even comes close.

I still remember Favre pitching that thing 70 yards with a BROKEN thumb a few years back.

I agree, other than Elway, no one comes close.

[4and12to12and4]

I remember that too. That was unbelievable. Do you ccnsider Favre the best overall QB to have ever put a chin strap on? I do.

[retailguy]

I remember that too. That was unbelievable. Do you ccnsider Favre the best overall QB to have ever put a chin strap on? I do.

Well, in the top 5 without question. but there are a few old timers that could've gone toe to toe with him, and as much as I despise John Elway, he comes close. Joe Montana was no slouch either.

I'll always be a Favre fan though. Always.

[4and12to12and4]

Yeah, it's hard to judge the old timers, too many differences in competion and size and speed differential. But, as great a Elway was, I put Favre above him, even though their close in many ways, because of the ironman record. Favre's played through some unbelievable injuries. ( I know the Vicadin helped, but whatever). His ironman record is what puts him ahead in my book. Guys like Marino and Montana aren't even close, because Marino had no run game or defense, so he passed constantly, quickest release ever, but couldn't even move out of the pocket. Plus, never won a Superbowl. Montana had WAY too many great players and coaches around him with a new scheme that teams were battling to figure out, so he was more of a product of those around him. I know he was the best at keeping his cool at high intensity moments, but he just didn't have near the tools Favre has, and if Jerry Rice and Co. played with Favre, Brett would've probably won 5 SB's. IMO. Maybe I'm just a homer.

[4and12to12and4]

I will say that right now, pure throwing talent alone, Carson Palmer is the creme of the crop. The guy can flat out throw the ball anywhere on the field with accuracy. But, that's only one part of a QB's job.