Bashing Grossman!?

[Bretsky]

{ilr]3]

I think Bearman cleaned up his act to be here. And I'll admit he spews a nauseating amount of rhetoric. But he contributes sometimes, and is moderately respectful.

I think he's harmless. And he obviously likes being around Packer fans. Well, outside of after crippling losses to the Packers, or in the Superbowl. I guess I can't blame him. I don't like people to see me crying either.

Sorry, but i dissagree! He is nothing but a classless troll. What is a Troll?

An "Internet troll" or "Forum Troll" is a person who posts outrageous message to bait people to answer. Forum Troll delights in sowing discord on the forums. A troll is someone who inspires flaming rhetoric, someone who is purposely provoking and pulling people into flaming discussion. Flaming discussions usually end with name calling and a flame war.

A classic CureZone troll is trying to make us believe that he is a skeptic. He is divisive and argumentative with need-to-be-right attitude, "searching for the truth", flaming discussion, and sometimes insulting people or provoking people to insult him. Troll is usually an expert in reusing the same words of its opponents and in turning it against them.

While he tries to present himself as a skeptic looking for truth ... his messages usually sound as if it is the responsibility of other forum members to provide evidence that what forum is all about is legitimate science.

I have seen turds like this destroy other Packers Forums because the mods tolerate this crap.

This Forum says Green and Gold Talk, not trash talk or anything of the sort. There should be a Trash Forum if your looking to host turds like this. I feel the same way about any Packers fan who posts on a Bears/Vikings forums. Although from what I have seen anything that is commonly accpeted here is an instant ban on thier forums even in the Trash Talk section.

These guys behave alright, in general, in here. They've been warned that they cannot behave like they did at an old stomping ground (JS) and they have agreed to not do that.

They get just as much or more as they give out. There is no reason for anybody to be personally mean to each other in here and I don't think they are doing that. They take plenty and they give some as well. And you can bet they both know that the mods will step in way way before they've ruined this forum.


Cheers,
B

[Bossman641]

I don't really have a problem with Bearman or DaBaddestBear. DBB actually posts some actual football talk once in a while. Bearman basically just comes to talk trash but he has at least gotten a little better about that.

Yea it's annoying when they talk it up and then go running off and hide, but what are you gonna do about it. It's what all Bear fans do.

[retailguy]

An "Internet troll" or "Forum Troll" is a person who delights in sowing discord on the forums. A troll is someone who inspires flaming rhetoric, someone who is purposely provoking and pulling people into flaming discussion. Flaming discussions usually end with name calling and a flame war.

He is divisive and argumentative with need-to-be-right attitude, "searching for the truth", flaming discussion, and sometimes insulting people or provoking people to insult him.

So then I guess we have a few Packer Trolls on our Packer forum as well. I've seen Packer fans be more disrespectful to other Packer fans that don't share their view on players or the GM then the two bear fans that post here.

Quoted for Truth.

[Zool]

An "Internet troll" or "Forum Troll" is a person who delights in sowing discord on the forums. A troll is someone who inspires flaming rhetoric, someone who is purposely provoking and pulling people into flaming discussion. Flaming discussions usually end with name calling and a flame war.

He is divisive and argumentative with need-to-be-right attitude, "searching for the truth", flaming discussion, and sometimes insulting people or provoking people to insult him.

So then I guess we have a few Packer Trolls on our Packer forum as well. I've seen Packer fans be more disrespectful to other Packer fans that don't share their view on players or the GM then the two bear fans that post here.

Quoted for Truth.

Re quoted in case someone wasn't looking.

[]{ilr]3]

I was not trying to slam the mods with my post. I think you guys do a great job over all. As a matter of fact thats why i came here because you guys do a such a great job. I am just offering my input on how to keep it that way.

If there are Packer fans that post this manor then i think they too should pay the price the same as any other troll.

[SkinBasket]

Bearman, I appreciate you're devotion to you're team and it's shitty QB, but do yourself a favor and stay the hell off this site. You're every post sickens me, and you can kiss my ass.

Don't tell other people not to post here. It's very poor forum etiquette (or edikwet as Bearman would say), and unless it's your site, you have no right, standing, or justification to do so. If you don't like what he posts, prove him wrong, or don't read it. Either option is rather easy in this case.

[retailguy]

{ilr]3]I was not trying to slam the mods with my post. I think you guys do a great job over all. As a matter of fact thats why i came here because you guys do a such a great job. I am just offering my input on how to keep it that way.

If there are Packer fans that post this manor then i think they too should pay the price the same as any other troll.

Here's the reality. If Bearman, or anyone else for that matter steps out of line, they're gone with the click of a checkbox. It's that simple.

We don't do that often. Why? Because we don't need to do that.

People have thoughts and opinions, that's what it is all about. Let them express those thoughts and opinions.

If they become trouble then we'll look at it, but if not, then why bother?

As to criticizing me, you'll have to get in line because Scott Campbell seems to have exclusive rights to that role, but for the rest of the mods I couldn't stick up for a better group of people. They work hard, and bend over backwards to be more than fair to people.

Any criticism doesn't bug me, keep on criticizing, but you'll have a tough time arguing with the camp that would say if you're happy with our work, you wouldn't be talking about it in the first place.

[oregonpackfan]

{ilr]3]I was not trying to slam the mods with my post. I think you guys do a great job over all. As a matter of fact thats why i came here because you guys do a such a great job. I am just offering my input on how to keep it that way.

If there are Packer fans that post this manor then i think they too should pay the price the same as any other troll.

Here's the reality. If Bearman, or anyone else for that matter steps out of line, they're gone with the click of a checkbox. It's that simple.

We don't do that often. Why? Because we don't need to do that.

People have thoughts and opinions, that's what it is all about. Let them express those thoughts and opinions.

If they become trouble then we'll look at it, but if not, then why bother?

As to criticizing me, you'll have to get in line because Scott Campbell seems to have exclusive rights to that role, but for the rest of the mods I couldn't stick up for a better group of people. They work hard, and bend over backwards to be more than fair to people.

Any criticism doesn't bug me, keep on criticizing, but you'll have a tough time arguing with the camp that would say if you're happy with our work, you wouldn't be talking about it in the first place.

Well stated, Retailguy.

Put me down as one poster who appreciates the special effort you and the other moderators do for this forum.

As we are all human, we will not have the same opinions of others but we need to respect the rights to opinions differing from our own.

[MadtownPacker]

{ilr]3]I was not trying to slam the mods with my post. I think you guys do a great job over all. As a matter of fact thats why i came here because you guys do a such a great job. I am just offering my input on how to keep it that way.

If there are Packer fans that post this manor then i think they too should pay the price the same as any other troll.

No I think you are on the right track. The mods do suck.

But about the bear fans...

For every positive there is a negative, for every ying there's a yang, for every hero there has to be a villain. Well bearman and DBB are the villains. They are like the TOKEN bears fans!! They live up to our expectations of bear fans.

I would be a liar if I said I haven't busted out laughing from some of bearman's ridiculous comments.

[Zool]

{ilr]3]I was not trying to slam the mods with my post. I think you guys do a great job over all. As a matter of fact thats why i came here because you guys do a such a great job. I am just offering my input on how to keep it that way.

If there are Packer fans that post this manor then i think they too should pay the price the same as any other troll.

No I think you are on the right track. The mods do suck.

But about the bear fans...

For every positive there is a negative, for every ying there's a yang, for every hero there has to be a villain. Well bearman and DBB are the villains. They are like the TOKEN bears fans!! They live up to our expectations of bear fans.

I would be a liar if I said I haven't busted out laughing from some of bearman's ridiculous comments.

Agreed. Some of us like having a whipping post around now and then. I'd rather take it out on a Bear fan than a Packer fan.

Plus, if we get the added bonus of a W in Chi-Town this year, think of the abuse.

Start the bets now.

Retail put it very well. The TBB and Bearman are pretty decent guys, and they dont get to crazy except for Packer/Bear week. Hell if my team hadn't sniffed the Superbowl in 21 years, I woulda been ruffling some feathers too.

[4and12to12and4]

Thank you Scott (I think?). I have "cleaned-up" my act, kindasorta. I poke fun at you all, and you poke fun at us, isn't that what it's all about? I do not make personel attacks,(as some in here do to me). As Scott pointed out, at times I accualy have something relivent to say, not often, but some times. The bantering and the rivalry is what is fun. "IF" one of you Mods think I am stepping over the line, just say so before you ban me.

Mr. 4/12&12/4, You sir are an arse. You come to the BEARS sites and cause all kinds of trouble. You know little about football and alot about stirring the pot.

Your infamitor remarks are geared to set people off and play into your adilesent games. Like it or not, you have to be "sickened" all season, 'cause I am staying right here !

Go BEARS Go !

See, this is why I have a problem with you. I guarantee my knowledge of my team and your team is superior to yours. I follow both teams on a daily basis, and I played football through highschool and a bit in college. So, for you to say i "know little about football" is the exact kind of remark that makes me dislike you and you're posting here. As far as you're knowledge of me causing trouble on the Bears site is simple BS banter, you don't even know my screen name over there and I haven't posted there for a long time. I don't use my same screen name over there, so it would be impossible for you to even know what I have said on that site. So, once again, you're the one judging and spewting BS irrelevant crap on this site. I have no problem with "thebaddestbear", he's much more civil and doesn't post things just to stir things up just as you accused me of.

I've posted enough here, that the moderaters know I'm usually a peaceful guy who just wants to talk Packer football. I just don't want to have to read your biased crap saying how great you're team is, and how crappy our team is. That in itself shows your ignorance of the current status of the NFL and our two teams. We have obviously closed the gap defensively with you guys to the point that many would say that we are superior in many positions. You say we have weak corners. That is laughable. Woodson is one of the best shutdown corners in the league and had 8 picks last year. Harris has been one of the top ten CB's in the league the last 6 to 7 years. We obviously have an edge in that category, and if you knew anything about the depth and individual players we have on our d-line would have to at least make you admit we are as good if not better than the Bears at this position. I am a realist, and agree that Urlacher is the best of all the backers on both teams, but Hawk isn't far behind, and has the tools to become just as good. This is only his second year in the NFL and if you compare his tackles, sacks, and interceptions to Urlacher last year, they are very close, which shows how good Hawk is considering he's not a middle backer. And I also at least agree that you're safeties are better than ours, I've never read a positive thing from your posts regarding our team.
So, I'll read your posts, but when provoked expect to get shit on in return, if that turns you on, so be it. Go Pack.

So, I'm not asking you to leave this site, I'm just asking you to tone it down a little and give credit where credit is due. I'm tired of reading how you guys are gonna dominate us for years to come. That is homerism, but ignorant writing. You have no idea how good our defense is coming along, and it's very possible we will have a top 5 defense this year, if our offense can stay on the field and give them rest during the game. I don't hate you Bearman, I would just like you to post less provoking posts, otherwise, be ready to deal with the wrath that guys like me and "Him" will be slinging at you. It's you're choice.

Just promise me that come win or lose, you'll still post here and take your lumps when bad things happen to your team, otherwise you're just a coward who comes here to talk shit when all goes right for DaBears.

[BEARMAN]

That is a promise for sure !
Win, Loose, Draw, I will come in here and glote some, eat crow or say WoW, what a game.
Slinging the BS in here is fun, but I will Never attack anyone personely ! That is a promise !
"IF" the bantering gets carried away, I would hope a Mod would put a lid on it asap.
"IF: Da BEARS are doing well this season you can bet I will come let you all know about it.
"IF" the pack is doing poorly you can bet I will be in here letting you all know what is going wrong.

Why we have to rehash this subject every year is beyond me, but I would like to take this time to thank all the mods in here for their fair play !

Oh yea, Da BEARS rule !

[4and12to12and4]

That is a promise for sure !
Win, Loose, Draw, I will come in here and glote some, eat crow or say WoW, what a game.
Slinging the BS in here is fun, but I will Never attack anyone personely ! That is a promise !
"IF" the bantering gets carried away, I would hope a Mod would put a lid on it asap.
"IF: Da BEARS are doing well this season you can bet I will come let you all know about it.
"IF" the pack is doing poorly you can bet I will be in here letting you all know what is going wrong.

Why we have to rehash this subject every year is beyond me, but I would like to take this time to thank all the mods in here for their fair play !

Oh yea, Da BEARS rule !

Ok, Bearman, I'm willing to call a truce with you, if you're interested, just don't disappear if the Chargers kick you guy's ass. All I ask of you is if you can give it, then be willing to take it to. I said before, I respect you're devotion to your team, but noone here wants to hear positive shit about the Bears, but it's cool as long as you don't provoke and come off as an asshole.

[4and12to12and4]

By the way, wouldn't you be having more fun just chatting with fellow Bears fans at the Bears forums? What inspires you to come in here and talk to us Packer fans anyways? You know you got no love here, so what good comes from it?

[Bretsky]

By the way, wouldn't you be having more fun just chatting with fellow Bears fans at the Bears forums? What inspires you to come in here and talk to us Packer fans anyways? You know you got no love here, so what good comes from it?

Don't overlook the obvious

There is no intelligence to be found in Da Bear Forums