Robert Thomas

[wist43]

Thomas outplayed Barnett when they were on the field together last year... Granted, that's not saying much; but, IMO, Thomas played Okay when he was on the field. Problem was, he wasn't on the field much, same as when he was in St Louis.

As for Johnson, I've always liked him. He caught some bad breaks with the injuries, but in terms of talent and potential, he's much better than either Horton or Hawkins... Hawkins wasn't even ready to step on the field last year - I definitely would have kept Johnson over Hawkins last year.

[Partial]

Johnson was pretty stiff in the hips. He would make a better saftey than CB but no matter where he plays he'll suck. The Packers have their sights set higher than Chris Johnson.

Wasn't it you that said last year during training camp that Hawkins was the best prospect at corner since Deion? I am pretty confident that was you. Anyway, I don't think how stiff his hips are will matter very much. This kid was gonna be a gamer until he blew out his knee. As you do recall, much like the massive Hawkins orgasm everyone had last year, Chris Johnson produced a similiarly titilating and unfulfilling orgasm the training camp before.

Chris Johnson is just cool as hell. He has 4.18 tattoed in his legs for his fastest 40 time ever.

[HarveyWallbangers]

Thomas outplayed Barnett when they were on the field together last year... Granted, that's not saying much; but, IMO, Thomas played Okay when he was on the field. Problem was, he wasn't on the field much, same as when he was in St Louis.

That's the wist we know and love. You have to be blind to think Thomas was better than Barnett last year.

[HarveyWallbangers]

Chris Johnson produced a similiarly titilating and unfulfilling orgasm the training camp before.

Actually, Johnson impressed in 2003. Then he got injured. Then he was injured again in 2004. In 2005 he came back, but had lost quite a bit on that speed--which made his potential a lot less intriguing.

[KYPack]

Thomas outplayed Barnett when they were on the field together last year... Granted, that's not saying much; but, IMO, Thomas played Okay when he was on the field. Problem was, he wasn't on the field much, same as when he was in St Louis.

As for Johnson, I've always liked him. He caught some bad breaks with the injuries, but in terms of talent and potential, he's much better than either Horton or Hawkins... Hawkins wasn't even ready to step on the field last year - I definitely would have kept Johnson over Hawkins last year.

1 Great to have you on the Forum

2. I know you are the President of the Nick Barnett haters club.

But......... C'MON. Thomas didn't outplay anybody last season, let alone Barnett. Thomas had 30 solos, Barnett 92. Thomas had no sacks, no fumbles ( he did have 1 pick, that I totally don't remember)

Barnett made plays and was covering the field, Thomas played like he was trapped in a phone booth.

Hawkins vs Johnson?

I can see your point. I really don't see either one of 'em as regular corners in the league. Johnson can do some other things on ST and you might want to go with him. I think the fact that they could get something for Johnson caused 'em to make the move.

Hawkins is the greenest corner I've ever seen. He is a mess in his technique and lacks basic cover skills. If he doesn't make vast strides this year, he's gonzo.

[wist43]

Rather than disparage Barnett, I'm feeling much more optimistic about the direction of the team after this draft.

For the LB's, I'd rather focus on the positives. Yes, I will always see Barnett as the weak link, but with the addition of Hawk and Hodge, I think they have enough talent to cover for Barnett's deficiencies... Hopefully Barnett will play out his contract, and will be gone in a couple of years - a fella can only hope.

As I said though... the positives??? I really like both Hawk and Hodge; and, Hodge, IMO, is vastly underrated. I love tough, physical, collision players... that's Hodge.

[wist43]

Thomas outplayed Barnett when they were on the field together last year... Granted, that's not saying much; but, IMO, Thomas played Okay when he was on the field. Problem was, he wasn't on the field much, same as when he was in St Louis.

That's the wist we know and love. You have to be blind to think Thomas was better than Barnett last year.

Harvey, you know I'm not "blind", and you know I know football... It actually baffles me why people actually think that Barnett is a good player. I've spent an inordinate, my wife would argue an unhealthy, amount of time watching game tape of Barnett - just to make sure what I was seeing and thinking about the guy was correct.

Yes, he puts up huge tackle numbers, but when you watch the guy down in and down out, he's not a very good football player... absolutely no instincts for the game. Good coaching helped him last year, but still that only made him average... I want better than that.

IMO, we got much better at the LB position with the addition of Hawk and Hodge. I'm sure they'll help me forget that Barnett is even on the field.

[HarveyWallbangers]

If you watched Thomas and other LBs as much as Barnett, I'm sure you'll see even more deficient play. What don't you think the coaches get that you do? We've had 4 different coordinators who felt Barnett was starting material.

[esoxx]

"Yes, he puts up huge tackle numbers, but when you watch the guy down in and down out, he's not a very good football player... absolutely no instincts for the game."



If Barnett had "absolutely no instincts for the game" he would not be in the league, much less the starting lineup. See Torrance Marshall.

[Harlan Huckleby]

I'm shocked, I thought Thomas was a decent player. Certainly worthy of a backup spot. Maybe they found some whacky tobacccy in his locker.

Is there any chance at all that Hawk would play MLB?

[HarveyWallbangers]

I'm shocked, I thought Thomas was a decent player. Certainly worthy of a backup spot. Maybe they found some whacky tobacccy in his locker.

Is there any chance at all that Hawk would play MLB?

Doesn't sound like it.

[Travbrew]

Wait just a minute here. I'm getting the feeling that Tank just doesn't care for TT very much. Am I right?
Would this explain his man-crush with Shermie?

[Partial]

I am thinking that Hodge will start from day one. Hodge, Hawk and Barnett.

[Patler]

Robert Thomas was pretty bad in pass coverage. As I recall, one of the knocks on him out of St Louis last year was his ability or willingness to play with little injuries. He missed a lot of games for GB. If they are trying to establish a "tougher" mentallity on D, maybe they liked some of the younger guys better.

He won't be missed.

[HarveyWallbangers]

All of the outside LBs were poor in pass coverage last year. I thought that was one of the bigger weaknesses on the defense. Hopefully, that can be shored up with Hawk, Taylor, and Hodge--and the two young guys (Poppinga and Manning) being more experienced.