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TT drafted Rogers with his first ever pick..He covered his ass QB wise right off the bat! It has nothing to do with the QB now...it is every other position. His job is to build a SB team with whatever QB he has. As far as Wahle and Rivera goes everyone knew he was not going to sign both but he damn sure could have got Wahle to stay and not screwed the pooch.C.H.U.D.
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Another "lets have faith in TT" post from Partial.Originally posted by Partial
Ideally, if TT sticks with his plan of building a team through the draft and landing quality players, he won't have to look to FA too much. It's unlikely to happen that easily, but we shall see.
What is nice is TT stockpiles his picks in hoping to find the next Favre or DD. That kind of player would enver make it to free agency.
Far be it from me to point this out to a blind Thompson supporter, but what is going to happen if GB starts winning games in spite of Thompsons inability to negotiate a big contract or ability to find veteran talent? Teds starting position in the draft will be further up, and I simply have not seen much from Thompsons drafts to start with, let alone if the team moves into the last 10 picks of any given round of the draft. It was easy to trade picks when we had the 5th pick, how easy will it be to trade when we sit at 20th?
Lets all praise Thompson for stockpiling his draft picks as if we have anything to show for it.
In 3 years Thompson has still not been able to replace the talent of Javon Walker. Look how long it took to rebuild the O-line after he tore that apart.......and I still dont see any holes or lanes for a RB to get through.
That would be suggesting that we have a running back. Ahman Green had it all, size, power, speed. The nice thing about Green, was that he was so damned physical, he didnt take a hit, he delivered it. He was not the type of running back to go down on first contact. These pussies that Thompson picked up with his "stockpiled" draft picks look like they would fall over from a light breeze.
What has all of the stockpiling done for our TE position?
Face it, the only thing that Thompsons stock-piling proves, is that even a blind squirrel will find a nut once in a while. Guys like you praise Thompson as if his devotion to the draft and stockpiling has actually accomplished something. So, after 3 stockpiled drafts from Thompson, the Packers are perhaps, maybe, a better than average team. This would be a nice time to see some veteran free agents to help the team become better than that. But if history has proven anything in Thompsons time with the Packers, its that Thompson's ability to find free agent talent is about as lame as his ability to find talent in the draft. Until Teddy is either willing to, or learns how to negotiate a contract with a big name free agent, this team will continue to be nothing more than slightly better than average. In which case, TT can stockpile his draft picks all he wants, because as slowly as he is building this team, not only do we have to worry about losing older players to retirement, but by the time some of these young guys do finally produce, they are going to be bitching about the money that they deserve, and then what? Are we going to say that they are not worth the money and let them go.......just to end up right back where we started?
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Freak Out, here you are my man!Originally posted by Freak OutPacknut, I bash TT sometimes and I praise him sometimes but all I want right now is a full view of your damn avatar! Give it up man!
but wait, that's not all...
Now how much would you pay?"Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not his own facts." -Daniel Patrick Moynihan
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Just what exacxtly did TT do to add to our 'D' in terms of upgrades in this off season?Originally posted by Brandon494Ok, so if we had given Favre weapons guess what? Our defense would not be as strong as it is. Get over it already.
Evan??
Take the draft away and the extentions. On that TT had to spend some money. With all the cash he had he was forced to spend to the CAP minumum so he extended key members of our 'D', and OK there, but they were no brainer moves.
He was merely keeping the cupboard stocked to a minimum.The trouble was and is. That we needed fresh meat, poultry and fish.
It had to be obvious to all here. Because this forum is well aware of Packer needs that we had very certain needs on our offense (RB,FB,TE).
We had a certain need at safety as well. We have aging CB's.
TT entirely ignored those needs fr. a standpoint of bringing in experience, and 'in fact' allowed our 'O' to remain weakened and certainly arguably further weakened.
TT's performance.It was just plain stupid the approach he took this off season. He failed us as Packer fans. He tossed 2007 into a trash barrel.
Bank on it !!! Well a poor term of expression there.
Why is there evan one member of this forum, a board that is well up on all things Packer, that will not admit that TT screwed up is a tad baffeling to me?
And I do know this as well. Yes as people we are entitled to see things differently and thus be different, but HOLY COW !!
I can easily accept it all with this given.
With the given that, whatever reason accounts for that screw-up in this off season, remains to be debated?
No more DAM TT excuses for a lousy Packer record. He's three season's into his five year contract and we need results that demonstrate that he has even a quilly clue. I'm to date not seeing it nor, the results of effort to even get there in 2007.
and in terms of:
That.
A resolution and different direction adopted here to enable Packer success, in the sense of some workable model.
Uhhhh Packer fans !??
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Brandon, if you are still following this thread, I was hoping you could elaborate on what you meant by this. I'm not sure what you were getting at. Why does one unit have to prosper and the other one suffer for the other one's prosperity? Why can't we achieve balance?Originally posted by Brandon494Ok, so if we had given Favre weapons guess what? Our defense would not be as strong as it is. Get over it already."Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not his own facts." -Daniel Patrick Moynihan
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I don't even care any more. I'm so sick of the same fight over and over. Can't we talk about how our team's gonna match up against Philly or something for gods sakes?
"Greatness is not an act... but a habit.Greatness is not an act... but a habit." -Greg Jennings
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Just 'the Boys' in the school yard or the corner store stuff MJ.Originally posted by MJZiggy
I don't even care any more. I'm so sick of the same fight over and over. Can't we talk about how our team's gonna match up against Philly or something for gods sakes?

** Since 2006 3 X Pro Pickem' Champion; 4 X Runner-Up and 3 X 3rd place.
** To download Jesus Loves Me ring tones, you'll need a cell phone mame
** If God doesn't fish, play poker or pull for " the Packers ", exactly what does HE do with his buds?
** Rather than love, money or fame - give me TRUTH: Henry D. Thoreau
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Amen brother. It's friggin' getting a bit too much like JSO around here. The same fights with the same arguments by the same people. Everyone going overboard. It's just old.Originally posted by MJZiggy
I don't even care any more. I'm so sick of the same fight over and over. Can't we talk about how our team's gonna match up against Philly or something for gods sakes?
All hail the Ruler of the Meadow!
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Yes, for the love of god yes. I will make a thread now!Originally posted by MJZiggy
I don't even care any more. I'm so sick of the same fight over and over. Can't we talk about how our team's gonna match up against Philly or something for gods sakes?

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It's upOriginally posted by PartialYes, for the love of god yes. I will make a thread now!Originally posted by MJZiggy
I don't even care any more. I'm so sick of the same fight over and over. Can't we talk about how our team's gonna match up against Philly or something for gods sakes?

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Thank you Partial...did you include that there is to be NO discussion whatsoever about TT and his construction of the current team?
Carolina, my avatar is a picture of Henry Garza of the band Los Lonely Boys. Henry...*SIGH*"Greatness is not an act... but a habit.Greatness is not an act... but a habit." -Greg Jennings
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The KLAN?Originally posted by MJZiggyThank you Partial...did you include that there is to be NO discussion whatsoever about TT and his construction of the current team?
Carolina, my avatar is a picture of Henry Garza of the band Los Lonely Boys. Henry...*SIGH*** Since 2006 3 X Pro Pickem' Champion; 4 X Runner-Up and 3 X 3rd place.
** To download Jesus Loves Me ring tones, you'll need a cell phone mame
** If God doesn't fish, play poker or pull for " the Packers ", exactly what does HE do with his buds?
** Rather than love, money or fame - give me TRUTH: Henry D. Thoreau
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