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CHRIS CHAMBERS AVAILABLE!!! and other WRs.
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I've maintained that Chambers is solid, but not as good as Bretsky thinks he is.
I wouldn't mind him on my team though. I have a hard time believing Miami would cut him. If they did, I'm not sure how interested he'd be in Green Bay. We have Driver and two good, young receivers. He might be more interested in Minnesota's situation.
I don't mind going with Driver-Jennings-Jones either. That could be a nice threesome in the very near future."There's a lot of interest in the draft. It's great. But quite frankly, most of the people that are commenting on it don't know anything about what they are talking about."--Ted Thompson
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2 QB'sOriginally posted by PatlerPersonally, I wouldn't mind seeing him get Chambers if he is released, or available fairly cheap. But who gets released then, Martin or Holiday? Or do you keep both with only two QBs on the 53 man roster?Originally posted by Bretsky
Acquiring Chambers would take Stones; not in TT world this year IMO
1 on Practice Squad
Driver
Chambers
Jennings
Jones
Martin
Holiday (#5/#6 WR and #3 QB)
But honestly Patler, do you see TT making a run at Chambers ? From my vantage point acquiring a player like Chambers and allowing a young guy to slowly develop seems pretty anti TT like.
Win now Baby !TERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWER
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The Badger fan outjousts a Buckeye fan most of the time ....lolOriginally posted by HarveyWallbangersI've maintained that Chambers is solid, but not as good as Bretsky thinks he is.
I wouldn't mind him on my team though. I have a hard time believing Miami would cut him. If they did, I'm not sure how interested he'd be in Green Bay. We have Driver and two good, young receivers. He might be more interested in Minnesota's situation.
I don't mind going with Driver-Jennings-Jones either. That could be a nice threesome in the very near future.
TT would almost have to trade for him to get him, and I don't see TT giving up a draft pick. Without the trade I'd bet Chambers would choose to go elsewhere.
My guess, with that contract, is he could be had for a 5th round pick. We have the cap space.
Pipe Dreams IMOTERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWER
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I don't like this idea, something is wrong in this situation... Miami doesn't have the strongest WR corps...
Also this means that Jones with be the #4 receiver and hardly see the field...
The upcoming and improving players like Holiday/Martin would not see field at all...
I say... PASS...
TRADE FOR A RB/TE INSTEAD
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Originally posted by PatlerYour contempt for TT causes you to forget what he has done. I'm not suggesting these guys are great, by any means, but in two seasons (since we don't know yet what he will do in 2007) at least the following veterans were acquired via trades or after being released:Originally posted by gbpackfanGod, it is sooooooooo depressing to know that ANY TIME a player that isnt a rookie free agent gets cut or is available via trade, Ted Thompson WILL NOT get involved. He is always saying that he is looking to improve the roster but I can't believe that he really believes that. It would be exciting to have a GM that actually got involved in aquiring players outside of the draft. I am very depressed about the Pack right now.
Koren Robinson
Rod Gardner
Donald Lee
Vernand Morrency
Brandon Miree
Robert Thomas
Reshard Lee
Mookie Moore
Tyson Walter
Todd Franz
Todd Bauman
Three former 1st round picks KR, Gardner and Thomas), Miree and Thomas became starters, Lee might be. Again, we have only two years to look at here, because the "cuts" are just now happening and possible trades crop up at cutdown time as well.
Others like Ruvell Martin, Holiday, etc were not in their first NFL years, but had not been on active rosters in earlier years. I think the same applied to Gado.
Again, I'm not saying TT has done a top notch job, but it is not an area he has totally ignored either.
Koren Robinson - Drunk
Rod Gardner - BUST
Donald Lee - Above average
Vernand Morrency - unknown, but appears to be injury prone.
Brandon Miree - Lost his starting spot to a rookie LB!
Robert Thomas - BUST
Reshard Lee - BUST
Mookie Moore - BUST
Tyson Walter - BUST
Todd Franz - BUST
Todd Bauman - BUST
That's quite a list there!
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Originally posted by packers11I don't like this idea, something is wrong in this situation... Miami doesn't have the strongest WR corps...
Also this means that Jones with be the #4 receiver and hardly see the field...
The upcoming and improving players like Holiday/Martin would not see field at all...
I say... PASS...
TRADE FOR A RB/TE INSTEAD
I would rather see a RB traded for too but this team needs offensive playmakers. I am wondering if Miami isnt cleaning house and starting over. Dumping all the high priced guys, like TT did with Sharper and Wahle, and building from the ground up.
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So what if Jones or Jennings is are forth WR. They can still get better playing behind two good vets. And as you can see with Driver injuries happen, nothing wrong with a little depth if the price is right.Originally posted by packers11I don't like this idea, something is wrong in this situation... Miami doesn't have the strongest WR corps...
Also this means that Jones with be the #4 receiver and hardly see the field...
The upcoming and improving players like Holiday/Martin would not see field at all...
I say... PASS...
TRADE FOR A RB/TE INSTEAD
But I agree, I wish we were talking TE or RB.Draft Brandin Cooks WR OSU!
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Well, Chambers was arrested on a DUI charge this summer. Could there be an underlying problem bigger than the single arrest?Originally posted by packers11I don't like this idea, something is wrong in this situation... Miami doesn't have the strongest WR corps...
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You don't trade for the guy because he doesn't have a lot of value to your team because he isn't any different from a Greg Jennings guy.
He'd be a solid #2 or #3 but you don't give up more than like a 5th for that imo. Especially after he got a dui.
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Whenever you sign someones rejects, which most waived players are, you will get little in return. Do you really expect him to get all pros or long term starters off the waiver wire on a routine basis? Those types of players are generally temporary fill ins to improve a spot temporarily. Thomas and Miree did that, both became starters for the Packers the year they were claimed. Lee, possibly too, so TT effectively used the waiver wire, other teams cut players, to improve his team that year. If the next year he is able to find still better player, so much the better. After all, the idea is to continue to improve. He improved by getting them. He improved still more by replacing them.Originally posted by gbpackfanOriginally posted by PatlerYour contempt for TT causes you to forget what he has done. I'm not suggesting these guys are great, by any means, but in two seasons (since we don't know yet what he will do in 2007) at least the following veterans were acquired via trades or after being released:Originally posted by gbpackfanGod, it is sooooooooo depressing to know that ANY TIME a player that isnt a rookie free agent gets cut or is available via trade, Ted Thompson WILL NOT get involved. He is always saying that he is looking to improve the roster but I can't believe that he really believes that. It would be exciting to have a GM that actually got involved in aquiring players outside of the draft. I am very depressed about the Pack right now.
Koren Robinson
Rod Gardner
Donald Lee
Vernand Morrency
Brandon Miree
Robert Thomas
Reshard Lee
Mookie Moore
Tyson Walter
Todd Franz
Todd Bauman
Three former 1st round picks KR, Gardner and Thomas), Miree and Thomas became starters, Lee might be. Again, we have only two years to look at here, because the "cuts" are just now happening and possible trades crop up at cutdown time as well.
Others like Ruvell Martin, Holiday, etc were not in their first NFL years, but had not been on active rosters in earlier years. I think the same applied to Gado.
Again, I'm not saying TT has done a top notch job, but it is not an area he has totally ignored either.
Koren Robinson - Drunk
Rod Gardner - BUST
Donald Lee - Above average
Vernand Morrency - unknown, but appears to be injury prone.
Brandon Miree - Lost his starting spot to a rookie LB!
Robert Thomas - BUST
Reshard Lee - BUST
Mookie Moore - BUST
Tyson Walter - BUST
Todd Franz - BUST
Todd Bauman - BUST
That's quite a list there!
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You're right, but you take any opportunity you can to improve a position. If CC is better than what we've got, you go get him.Originally posted by Harlan HucklebyMan, I can't believe more than half of you would trade for a declining WR.
This team has much bigger holes.
I like the idea of grooming 'the next guy' too, but Jennings, JJ, Holiday and Martin are first and second year players. I like all of them, but do we really want to bring along 4 guys at a time? I'd rather see another vet in there.--
Imagine for a moment a world without hypothetical situations...
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If anything, this list seems to support the argument for building through the draft. Tough to find anything when dumpster diving through other team's castoffs. Sure, you might find a rusty blender that still works when you plug it in, but you will also find an awful lot of trash.Koren Robinson - Drunk
Rod Gardner - BUST
Donald Lee - Above average
Vernand Morrency - unknown, but appears to be injury prone.
Brandon Miree - Lost his starting spot to a rookie LB!
Robert Thomas - BUST
Reshard Lee - BUST
Mookie Moore - BUST
Tyson Walter - BUST
Todd Franz - BUST
Todd Bauman - BUST
That's quite a list there!"My problems with him are his vision and tendency to dance instead of pounding a hole." - Harvey Wallbangers
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